- Oct 6, 2006
The prequels don't compare to the originals...in much the same way that md 20/20 doesn't compare with chateau lefite rothchild.
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Agreed. The two things that irritate me most about the Butlerian Jihad trilogy is that A. Past history as established by Frank Herbert himself was ignored in favor of having all of the above happen pretty much at the same time, and B. Norma Cenva seems to have invented everything up to, and possibly including, the proverbial kitchen sink!*Prequel Spoilers*
But all through the series there was one thing that really, really bugged me. The prequels took all the major factions in the Dune universe, the Spacing Guild, the AI ban, Bene Besserit, Melange use etc. (Sorry I could be wrong on some of them its been awhile since I read them but hopefully you know what I mean) and had them all develop within the timeframe of a generation or two.
It was all just too convienient, personally I would have preferred it if the books had moved around within a few thousand years prior to the events of Dune and told the story of how these factions developed without needing to have so many historical events happen at the one time.
I believe that House Corrino attempted to take a worm off Arrakis later didn't they? Also, didn't the Bene Tleilax begin to produce massive amounts of spice later on, destroying the monopoly that Arrakian inhabitants had on spice?I just want to start out by saying that I deeply love Frank Herberts Dune series. I've got them all, and I've read all of them atleast two or three times. So when it was announced that his son was going to write new books based on Frank's left over notes I was thrilled.
Of the new books I've read the two first prequals and The Butlerian Jyhad. House Atreides wasn't so bad, even though it was nothing like Frank's books it managed to introduce the world coherently and most characters were interesting. I didn't care much for the plot and it was evident that Brian and Kevin thinks that the more plot you have the better it is. I really liked the original Dune's introspective political and philosophical themes, but in the new books there was little of that.
While reading House Harkonnen I started to actively dislike the plot. The whole artifical spice thing is retarded, especially since there is no mention of it in the Dune books that take place just a few decades after. Most of the other plots are equally retarded and I don't think I will bother reading to read House Corrino.
What can I say about Butlerian Jyhad? I think this sums it up pretty good:
Penny Arcade! - Honesty Time
This books is an insult to Frank Herbert legacy and quite possibly on of the worst sci-fi novels I've ever read.
I agree, The Legends Trilogy is MUCH better than the Machine War Trilogy.Out of the Dune prequals, I prefer Legends of Dune.
It is interesting to read an entire series of novels whose contents are only hinted at and whose plot was made lengendary in the original Dune series.
What is an "EMP"?I've read the House trilogy. I've read the Legends trilogy. I've read Hunters of Dune, and I've nearly finished Sandworms of Dune. I think I've suffered enough.
The House trilogy was entertaining, although bizarrely pitched at young teenagers. The Legends trilogy was just plain... execrable. The two "sequels" to Frank Herbert's Dune books are even worse than that. They contain idiot plots at their most idiotic - not only do a couple of the characters have to be idiots for the story to progress, the entire population of the universe has to behave like complete idiots for the story to actually reach its resolution!
Someone should set off an EMP above Kevin J Anderson's house