weaver of the unseen
- Aug 21, 2007
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The things they do are small potatoes. I don't see that i.e. saving a child, stopping a good man from committing murder, can change the world. I am aware of the butterfly effect, however I am also aware that many movements in politics and such are bigger than one single person or one single event, most would happen anyway, because the time was right for it - just like inventions of machines or scientific discovery. It might happen later, more slowly, or in a different way, but it would surely still happen.Trevor said that there are billions of things happening to billions of people all over the world. There is nothing nobody do, as the Director is the only one that can calculate the outcomes. What is the Director cannot see everything? What if it's just reaching out in the dark and all that happens is still random things.
Maybe the calculation of the outcomes is just too difficult a task, even for the Director?
Well, the outcome of one event might be clear, but the impact of what it does to the lives of others isn't. Time and again the Director has sent the Travellers to prevent something and all they have as a thanks is the Faction and its warring parties. The world in the future has improved, but no so much that it would have become an utopia. It is going to be interesting to find out if the Faction Ai will present itself in this season.if those events were really so devastating then why has the future not changed?
I don't expect them to have bigger events back to back, as every season has had one or two that has been in the idea level very huge. We have witnessed the Faction throwing large numbers of assets to make the event happening in their way. The same thing has happened with the Director forces, with last season seeing the Director completely shutting down and being under a direct assault. That is not fiddling with the deckchairs.I expected them to move on to larger things, larger events and changes. However, they are still doing the small stuff. The end of the world is supposed to be nearing. There is a deadline here, but they are moving deckchairs on the Titanic or fiddling while Rome burns.
I really ought to watch the whole of season 3 before making comments. For instance, small things such as that could have larger consequences...Neverthless, I do agree that because we don't see the future, and we don't know what's what, and whodunnit, so things like killing the boy in the forest loses the potential impact they would have on the watchers, if they really knew.
. He is the figurehead and the leader for whole movement on keeping the timeline intact instead of fiddling with the reality.
Yes, they want, but we haven't seen them changing timeline as much as the Travellers. It was not the Faction that got attacked around the world by FBI and other nation players. It was Directors forces. Even Traveller 001 hasn't done as much changes as the Travellers has done on Director's orders. They are the biggest force and the series has made us to think them as the protagonist, while The Faction is almost always shown as the bad guys.The faction wants to and is trying to change the timeline just as much as the travelers and the director. The girl who tricked and seduced the historian said it flatout, "We want to change the future just as much as you do. We just don't think a machine should be in charge of those changes."
Interesting: this might be why I didn't rate the first Season much. I agree - the world is going to end, but they are preoccupied with personal relationships and petty details rather than the big picture. However, as we move through the second Season, those relationships are all they have in a future that becomes progressively more unpredictable. Then, in the third Season, those relationships are what teach what it is to be human; why an AI like the Director can never understand what it is to be human. Keep watching until the final two episodes and you see that those "extraneous" relationships are central to the whole story.I do feel a little by-the-numbers about the personal IRL challenges of the travelers. Grant’s wife, Marcy’s treatment of Dave, Trevor’s parental struggles and most of all the baby storyline are so extraneous as to add nothing. I understand why they’re there but they’re just so hopelessly mismatched against The Plan that I find it laughable that the travelers take them soooo seriously.
It’s so funny you posted this Dave. I watched eps 3.1-3.5 last night and saw exactly the same logic. S2 built on their personal life struggles and s3 seems to be bringing it home.Interesting: this might be why I didn't rate the first Season much. I agree - the world is going to end, but they are preoccupied with personal relationships and petty details rather than the big picture. However, as we move through the second Season, those relationships are all they have in a future that becomes progressively more unpredictable. Then, in the third Season, those relationships are what teach what it is to be human; why an AI like the Director can never understand what it is to be human. Keep watching until the final two episodes and you see that those "extraneous" relationships are central to the whole story.They are why the Traveller program ultimately will always fail. Especially, Grant meeting his wife, David's heroic death, and Trevor's accelerated ageing.