Netflix Travelers (Time Travel Show)

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I just wish Eric McCormick could play anyone other than Will. He's playing Will as a time-traveling soul stealer in the body of an FBI agent. But he's still Will. And why the hell would the team choose a heroin addict as their historian? That was a dumb choice.
 

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I just wish Eric McCormick could play anyone other than Will. He's playing Will as a time-traveling soul stealer in the body of an FBI agent. But he's still Will. And why the hell would the team choose a heroin addict as their historian? That was a dumb choice.
Eh, did you ever see his other show Perception? He doesn't have much range. He just plays crazy pretty well. Or a straight guy pretending he's not about to fall apart.
 

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If we are supposed to be believe that there are 3000+ of these travelers out there with their hosts acting weird and they are supposed to be dead, why not all be junkies or homeless people?
The talk about this and you see they're not all ... good. The other teams has murdered and done unspeakable things to wangle themselves into a position where they can try to alter future massively. Only we don't know how bad things get until the very end, where we some results of their actions coming directly back to haunt them.

Being junkie, drunk or otherwise depended on substances is normal to human. So I think they've done again pretty well by putting in those narratives and making the characters more slightly flawed. To be honest, I wonder often why characters has to be all too powerful and perfect, when we aren't like that at all.

Their lack of knowledge on what food tastes like, yet they seem to know how to use a computer once they get the password right. They seem to know how to drive cars, run real fast, use guns and yet they can't figure out what's fake on social media, heal a body who is addicted to drugs, but they can heal a mentally challenged body?
Well, she's not healed. Not completely. And I have to admit there's so doubt in her character but I let it slightly because of the romance. That drama between the carer and the patient is well written and it often to goes to very extreme to shock the audience. And addict stays addict. There is no cure. You need to be really though to ween opioids out. It's just it's thousand times easier to replace hard stuff on chronic pain patients with CBD and that way bring them down instead of making them methodone whores.

On people who aren't in the pain category, the challenge is much tougher, because you have to strengthen mind at the same time as build up tolerance. And most of the people don't give up with snap of fingers. They try and they fall. Just like you see in this series. These people need a mentally though Traveller to cure the addiction. A super smart person is hardly one and the history is filled with examples of these geniuses actually accelerating the process and end up six feet under at the end.

Sad but true. Maybe the way they did it in this series didn't please most of the audience, while I did find most MC's quite intriguing.
 

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The talk about this and you see they're not all ... good. The other teams has murdered and done unspeakable things to wangle themselves into a position where they can try to alter future massively. Only we don't know how bad things get until the very end, where we some results of their actions coming directly back to haunt them.

Being junkie, drunk or otherwise depended on substances is normal to human. So I think they've done again pretty well by putting in those narratives and making the characters more slightly flawed. To be honest, I wonder often why characters has to be all too powerful and perfect, when we aren't like that at all.

Well, she's not healed. Not completely. And I have to admit there's so doubt in her character but I let it slightly because of the romance. That drama between the carer and the patient is well written and it often to goes to very extreme to shock the audience. And addict stays addict. There is no cure. You need to be really though to ween opioids out. It's just it's thousand times easier to replace hard stuff on chronic pain patients with CBD and that way bring them down instead of making them methodone whores.

On people who aren't in the pain category, the challenge is much tougher, because you have to strengthen mind at the same time as build up tolerance. And most of the people don't give up with snap of fingers. They try and they fall. Just like you see in this series. These people need a mentally though Traveller to cure the addiction. A super smart person is hardly one and the history is filled with examples of these geniuses actually accelerating the process and end up six feet under at the end.

Sad but true. Maybe the way they did it in this series didn't please most of the audience, while I did find most MC's quite intriguing.
IMHO the show would be a dang good drama.
It honestly doesn't even need the time travel.

A warning about the atomic explosion could have been enough to bring these few people together and a few changes to the characters to explain how they were able to stop it and it would be a smash hit too!
 

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OK here's the other thing that's bugging me about this show. It is filmed in Vancouver BC but takes place in Seattle.

Then DON'T SHOW ME THIS PICTURE:

http://pics.filmaffinity.com/Travelers_Serie_de_TV-848626716-large.jpg

THAT ...thing that isn't the Space Needle and is obviously a building in Vancouver? DON'T SHOW ME THAT and tell me I'm supposed to believe the show takes place in Seattle.

GARRGH. This is BASIC STUFF, people.
 

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ALSO.

So the show's premise is that time travelers from the future travel back in time by hijacking the consciousness of people in our time.

HOW THE f*ck can they manufacture future tech? Like..I don't know...a laser thing that can cause a matter/anti-matter reaction that ...something...moves an asteroid somehow? And...slug things that...something...surgery? And an antimatter thing that...something stasis field that allows two people to survive a plane crash??
 

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I might have had a lot of whiskey this evening. But I am EMPHATIC about the points I'm making.
 

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The talk about this and you see they're not all ... good. The other teams has murdered and done unspeakable things to wangle themselves into a position where they can try to alter future massively. Only we don't know how bad things get until the very end, where we some results of their actions coming directly back to haunt them.

Being junkie, drunk or otherwise depended on substances is normal to human. So I think they've done again pretty well by putting in those narratives and making the characters more slightly flawed. To be honest, I wonder often why characters has to be all too powerful and perfect, when we aren't like that at all.

Well, she's not healed. Not completely. And I have to admit there's so doubt in her character but I let it slightly because of the romance. That drama between the carer and the patient is well written and it often to goes to very extreme to shock the audience. And addict stays addict. There is no cure. You need to be really though to ween opioids out. It's just it's thousand times easier to replace hard stuff on chronic pain patients with CBD and that way bring them down instead of making them methodone whores.

On people who aren't in the pain category, the challenge is much tougher, because you have to strengthen mind at the same time as build up tolerance. And most of the people don't give up with snap of fingers. They try and they fall. Just like you see in this series. These people need a mentally though Traveller to cure the addiction. A super smart person is hardly one and the history is filled with examples of these geniuses actually accelerating the process and end up six feet under at the end.

Sad but true. Maybe the way they did it in this series didn't please most of the audience, while I did find most MC's quite intriguing.
I just finished Episodes 5-10, and boy did they turn things around! I gota say that this show is now a mixture of Continuum and much surprisingly Lost. Especially dealing with the plane episode.

So I was quite surprised to see them complete their mission half way through the season. The mythology is getting deeper and away from the procedural effect.
But as we later find out they saved the world, but their future is still pretty much in tact or is it? Travelers are still coming in now at the 4000 level and there is a new team of doctors and apparently the engineers seem to be pretty high level

Another odd inconsistency I found was that when Mac got hijacked for his new mission they told him that a protocol (2?) was not knowing anything about what the new future was like. I get that, but then where or when does Phillip's information end?
We are already seeing the effects the completed mission is having on his information and something tells me this is only going to get much worse than losing a few bets.
Does he only have information related to the 21st? Or does he have all future information, which is what I was led to believe?

I found the best episode of the series so far is the traitor episode,
but then again we find that the future from whence they came may not be the future Mac left because they now don't seem to have any qualms about killing people who are alive! Unless they are way more travelers than 4000+
 
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Another odd inconsistency I found was that when Mac got hijacked for his new mission they told him that a protocol (2?) was not knowing anything about what the new future was like. I get that, but then where or when does Phillip's information end?
To a certain future probably very far. It's new travellers who posses the newest information, while old travellers has already chosen predestined to die bodies that are easy to get access. Certain events has been locked down already, so what splinter factions can do to those who are already at the present? Not much as far as I can, because the present is dominated by idealists loyal to the original cause.
 

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I just finished watching eps 11-12 last night. It had a great ending. Cliff hanger means they probably have more ideas! The last episode reminded me a glorified turing test. What path should you follow? Should you listen to the AI or should you have free will? It's something that will definitely be discussed in future politics.
I thought the director wasn't real at first, then I figured out it was AI probably by episode 7. I still don't know if he's real or not, because the show ended right before he supposedly shows up.

Also it was great how they got the programmers involved. I wonder if they don't even realize the extent of their own power, it all depends on if the Director is real. If the Director is real than likely it is everything that they say it is, if it is not real than there will be even more twists and disappointments in season 2!

However, there seems to be something more sinister here going on. They are basically hijacking bodies at this point and it makes me think that in the future no one really cares about the sanctity of a single life especially after the whole Marcy deal.

Screenrtv calls it the best time travel show in years: Time travel fans need to binge watch ‘Travelers’ immediately
 
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I've started to watch this (mainly because of ctg's obvious enthusiasm) I seem now that the premise is more like Odyssey 5 which I really liked until it was cancelled at short notice. I hate it when series build up a mystery but you never get to see the solutions.

Anyway, I have changed this thread's title since every time I saw it I kept thinking it was yet another cancelled show.

I'm only 3 episodes in, so I'm not reading this thread yet, but what I do like about it is their vulnerability - the addict, the girl with seizures, no one having any idea of their earlier life, and no idea why they are doing what they are doing. There must be a considerable number of other cells operating already for them to be able to deliver such sophisticated technology, and yet keep its development secret. So, you get the impression that they are nothing special at all, just one group among many. Also, it seems that mistakes are common, and almost expected.

You may have mentioned this already, but Phillip's speech in which he asks why they can't change history by saving lives, because that's what we are doing, changing history - that does throw up some questions about the whole premise of the show. Anyway, I'm off to watch some more.
 
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You may have mentioned this already, but Phillip's speech in which he asks why they can't change history by saving lives, because that's what we are doing, changing history - that does throw up some questions about the whole premise of the show.
There are reasons for the dialogue. It's so subtle and you think the obvious, when in fact, you will learn about it later on. They cannot put in more information than there already is and to be honest, it's sad some of the effects are cheap and cheesy, they've done very well with the small budget they got.

The writing is spectacular and very ballsy. I don't know how much they improvised in the sets, but my feeling is that they followed the script quite literally.
 

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I've seen all 12 episodes now. Great show.

I just had an issue with the final episode, the cliffhanger and the big mystery spun. It is a simple logic puzzle. The rebooting of the Director is a red herring. The Director sent travelers back to the 21st Century to build a machine there where he could reside and escape from the Faction. If, he then later decided against that idea, then the presence of that machine would be unimportant to him He might tell travelers to abort their missions, even to destroy the machine, but it wouldn't be worth the deployment of the kind of resources that was seen, with the assassination and attempted assassination of travelers. In short, the Director has no overpowering reason; no great need to destroy the machine, while the Faction have every reason to want it destroyed. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. Only the Faction have a motive.

The FBI arrived too conveniently. I expect they are also travelers who have just arrived in the 21st Century. I see all being revealed in the first five minutes of the next Season.
 
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I'm seven episodes into Travelers and enjoying it a lot. I like the characters, and I've found each episode I've seen so far to be different to the last and keeping my attention.

I also watched The OA and ended up hating it, but that's another story :lol:
 

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I must admit that since I've finished Travellers I've been thinking about it a lot more than the OA
I keep referring to it more than others at the moment. I've stopped thinking about it, because I have my own time-travel story to solve. The problem is making it clear, because I have so many ideas twisting around each other.
 

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I keep referring to it more than others at the moment. I've stopped thinking about it, because I have my own time-travel story to solve. The problem is making it clear, because I have so many ideas twisting around each other.
I have an entire time travel universe bouncing around in my head which used some of the elements in the show, but it's very confusing and I need a story. So for now I am just sticking to the plot of my other WIP The Disconnect which is much simpler
 
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