4.09: Fear The Walking Dead - People Like Us

Strand, Luciana and a dead fan (Photo by Ryan Green/AMC)

Morgan tries to help Alicia and this fractured group of survivors as a storm brews.

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Brilliant episode and the funniest season beginning in the Fear and TWD.

I haven't been feeling too great for whole day, but FTWD certainly made it better. I can put one of the episodes and know immediately that our world isn't the worst. Then again, if ours suck, I can put on the old classics and know that the Kirkman's world will offer me ... or anyone escapism from the reality.

When AMC decided that it was a good thing to join the forces between the series I didn't believe that they were going to do the ultimate and join the series. I'm saying that because it seems with huge time caps in this season that it's likely that they might try to join the casts and have another humongous family at the Ricknation.

We know that TWD is going to jump forward around two years, but we can also see that most of the summer Luciana has been listening old ballads and pining for the old lovers, while Strand has been exploring the vast wine cellar for his own comfort. In the meanwhile Morgan has healed his leg and to my total surprise John's cut wound is almost done.

It is as if they're preparing the cast for the roadtrip back to Alexandria instead of making them a nomad tribe wandering around the great wastes ... possibly looking for Charlie. At least this time she's not part of the Vietcong even though with her track record she could be a triple agent. Fear gang just haven't realised it because there not enough of evidence.



To be honest, I think Charlie is broken beyond repair and there is no thing, no game in the world that is going to make her better. Possibly the last person she wants to face is Alicia as her mind has gone with the loss of her family. Everyone around her are strangers. Even Morgan's friendly face is too much as she tries to be her mother.

But, if you look at Madeline, her ways of trying to keep her family together isn't really functioning in the Kirkman's world. Rick tried to do that and his family lasted for longer time, but at the end, we know that even his family isn't going to last with Rick leaving us in the next season. Maybe even before the Christmas break.

Is that a curse or a sign of times?

Anyway, I found John's attempt of making Charlie feeling better absolutely sweet. He has such a huge heart and if he could not kill the zombies, I believe he would try to live in peace with them regardless of their nature. Somewhere in our galaxy things must be worse, and nothing we see in the AMC series is beyond a repair. Ultimately all zombie stories are either about the survival and what we in the between or it's the story of how they died.

The Jury is still on the bench which is which, but the evidence points strongly that at point they are all going to die. No Disney ending or happily ever after.

But, this episode, it made me laugh so much with the Zombie Twister, the Log Zombies and Strand being completely wasted. His handling of above dead fan was absolutely brilliant and probably the funniest thing I've seen in this summer.

What will the Autumn bring?

They are all broken, well maybe not Al. Alicia wants to be Madison, Luciana listening to music, grieving, hiding from the world, Strand being completely wasted, John thinking the answer is too hide him, June and Charlie away in his cabin. Charlie I agree with ctg I don't think can be fixed.

Funny how amongst these peoples madness Morgan has found himself and wants to reconnect with the world.

nixie said:

Strand being completely wasted

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He managed to walk, acquire a new bottle and somehow do John's mission at the library. I cannot say he was totally cause he was still functioning.

nixie said:

Funny how amongst these peoples madness Morgan has found himself and wants to reconnect with the world.

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Yeah. Why?

ctg said:

He managed to walk, acquire a new bottle and somehow do John's mission at the library. I cannot say he was totally cause he was still functioning.



Yeah. Why?

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True with Strand and him hitting the bottle isn't new. He can sniff out alcohol.

Morgan I'm only speculating, he left Alexandra because he didn't think he was good around people.
He meets John who refuses to let him walk away, they hook up with others who are nearly feral. Morgan sees something in them that will help Alexandra.
John I get he's a nice guy, Al properly wouldn't stay but Alicia will likely try and take over.
Alicia, Strand and Luciana could be very dangerous to TWD communities.
Morgan having conquered his own demons wants to go home and take his new friends with him, he may have been better just leaving.

nixie said:

Morgan having conquered his own demons wants to go home and take his new friends with him, he may have been better just leaving.

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I don't know if this is lazy writing or ordered by the AMC executives as a thing that needs to happen. It will be very interesting to see where this season ends.

If a spin-off merges with its parent show, does it become a spin-on?
TWD has a big enough cast. It doesn't need to assimilate the FTWD characters.
Has AMC decided that one walker show is enough?

REBerg said:

If a spin-off merges with its parent show, does it become a spin-on?

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Yes.

REBerg said:

Has AMC decided that one walker show is enough?

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That is what I would like to know. To be honest, I don't know any other spin-off's which has joined the mother series like an offspring that has come home, penniless, without a job or roof and with some super strange people that creeps you every time you see them.

I don't want too see the shows merged. The occasional crossover I don't mind, FTWD is worthy in its on right and dare I say sometimes surpasses the mother show.

There has been some really good episodes, this series has been one of the best even with the death of two main stars.

Maybe the producers feel FTWD cast will rejuvenate TWD, big mistake for me.

Morgan Jones threw fans of Fear the Walking Dead for a loop on Sunday night when he revealed that his new plan was to return home, back to Alexandria, Virginia. Back to Rick Grimes.

Sadly, as viewers, we all know that the reunion he's looking for won't be there waiting for him when and if he arrives. Andrew Lincoln, who has starred as Rick Grimes since the very first episode of The Walking Dead, has confirmed that he's going to exit the series during the upcoming season. Barring a miraculously quick road trip, which seems highly unlikely considering the hurricane, Rick and Morgan will never see each other again.

How will Morgan react when he finds out Rick is gone? ComicBook.com recently spoke to Lennie James, who plays Morgan in The Walking Dead universe, and we asked him what's in store should his character make it back to Alexandria.

"I think it would be devastating, as it would be for a number of other characters," James told us. "For a long time now, since the loss of his wife and his son, Morgan, until he made the acquaintance of Carol and Ezekiel and some of the others, until then, Morgan's only proof that he's in the world has been Rick. The only person who knows Morgan that's left ... Eastman's gone, Jenny's gone, Duane's gone. The only proof Morgan has that he is alive and in this world has been Rick. The only person who knows him is Rick, and so, in a weird way, wherever Rick is is home. And if he heads back there and Rick isn't there, then I think that very much rocks the foundations of who he is now in this world."

At this point, it's unclear whether Rick will be killed off, like the rest of his family, or if he'll somehow ride a horse down an abandoned interstate and into the fleeting sunset. Either way, he won't be around to see Morgan, and that will be a devastating revelation for the latter.

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'The Walking Dead': Lennie James Reveals How Morgan Would React to Rick's Departure

Either this is a red herring or then Fear doesn't end in Virginia ... in this season. All we know is that because Morgan is now a leading actor and others seems to be supporting him, they are going on a road trip. I know I said a nomadic tribe as it was implied in the season trailer. Now, however, if the zombie twister doesn't eat their houses, Strand is permanently rooted on that wine cellar and therefore, there has to be an act-of-God to make him to take Morgan's offer.

John's cabin is going to be too small for three of them. I would go crazy with three people and one of them being a rebellious teenager in that hut. You would have to build huge wall around the place to keep it secure.

If they go nomadic and end up somewhere else than Alexandria, we are going to see a lot of country and possibly link Fear's cast to the helicopter people. After all, there has been more choppers in the Fear than there has been in the mother series. I think it would be a great shame to join the casts, because TWD story is locked with the comics, while Fear explores Kirkman's world.

I don't know what Morgan feels he's going to find from Ricknation other than a family, he felt he had to leave behind. I understand that he's longing to know how they're doing as he fears that there's so threat coming in their way. But, when he chose to leave Rick and other people behind, he went across most of the country to get his head together.

Is he really well now or will those ghosts come back to haunt him? Mock him as a failure as the head of the family?

To me Alicia is a major threat, because she is recklessly trying to be her mother. In the last season she had a moment with that girl in the jeep and she showed that she's capable of handling Kirkman's world as it is. Where has that thing gone? Or is this it as her transformation to that "warrior princess"? I think it would be a cooler if she would become a nomadic warrior princess that travels from coast-to-coast and beyond seeking adventure and love.

Returning to a Rickless Alexandria certainly wouldn't be good for Morgan's mental stability. It will be another round of babysittng for Jesus.

I thought Alicia had convinced Morgan to stay when she said they need help. Especially with Help signs everywhere around.. Perhaps they will go somewhere but I don't think to Virginia anytime soon.

I wouldn't blame Strand if he wanted to stay in that spot, though I don't know how there food situation is going. Seems to be fine.

It was a very good episode, much better than most of the first half of this season. A lot of amusing moments.

With a storm coming to Fear the Walking Dead, Morgan Jones actor Lennie James promises no one can see what's coming for his character.

While talking to ComicBook.com in promotion of The Walking Dead Season Eight's blu-ray release slated for August 21, James opened up about the upcoming episodes of his new role on sibling series Fear the Walking Dead. As was seen in the Mid-Season Four premiere on Sunday night, a hurricane is on the horizon, which just might put a wrench in Morgan's desires to head back to Alexandria.

"I think one of the great things about the storm coming is I think that people are going to have an expectation of what that's going to do," James said. "I think it's going to literally throw people together that haven't sat in a room together for any length of time or ever, and some of those combinations are going to be absolutely fascinating, some of those combinations are going to be dangerous, and some of those combinations are going to be very funny."

Most recently, Morgan appears to have taken a liking to Alycia Debnam-Carey's Alicia Clark and Garret Dillahunt's John Dorie. With these relationships appearing to have blossomed, James' next comments might mean fans won't see too much of them together as new relationships and unexpected events could come along.

"I do believe what the storm will do to Morgan no one will see coming, and that's going to be really interesting for me to see how the fans react to it," James said.

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'Fear The Walking Dead': Lennie James Promises Big Surprises