Star Wars: An immersive and sophisticated movie experience

[Cthulhu.Science]

All about that Base (no rebels) - A star wars song

 

[Parson]

Obviously somebody has gone through the trouble of watching all the Star Wars movies in chronological order. Are any of those people here? How does the story hold up if watched in that way? There seems to be great potential for story problems. Any thoughts?

I have done that and I must say I was pleasantly surprised.

My opinion is that the original Star Wars movie, followed by The Empire Strikes Back were both so ground breaking as cinema that nothing was going to match the emotional charge they gave. I will always remember the opening scene of Star Wars. My mouth was hanging open as the gigantic star ship filled the screen. Four decades later I watched them in "chronological Order" and found the prequels held up much better than I thought when seeing them first.

One of my major problems has to do with the tech portrayed. The prequels looked like they had better tech. The original movies have clunkier looking tech, which I assume is a production problem.

 

[BAYLOR]

Opinions differ

I know

 

[BAYLOR]

I have done that and I must say I was pleasantly surprised.

My opinion is that the original Star Wars movie, followed by The Empire Strikes Back were both so ground breaking as cinema that nothing was going to match the emotional charge they gave. I will always remember the opening scene of Star Wars. My mouth was hanging open as the gigantic star ship filled the screen. Four decades later I watched them in "chronological Order" and found the prequels held up much better than I thought when seeing them first.

One of my major problems has to do with the tech portrayed. The prequels looked like they had better tech. The original movies have clunkier looking tech, which I assume is a production problem.

I enjoyed the fort two films , The Return of the Jedi less so. The Lucas directed prequels not at all. As for Abrams films , those I actually like.


Of the news films, the best by far was Rogue One.

 

[Swank]

One of my major problems has to do with the tech portrayed. The prequels looked like they had better tech. The original movies have clunkier looking tech, which I assume is a production problem.

I think the originals were supposed to look more battered and backwater, while the prequels took us back to time when egalitarian economies thrived. So the ships have their aerodynamic hull plates and fancy paint jobs. They aren't necessarily better ships - just more finished looking.

We also see rich places. The nicest place in the originals was Cloud City - a mining backwater.

 

[paeng]

Here's another point to consider about the first trilogy: someone pointed out that the second movie isn't very good, and that's because it starts with a very weird context. The explanation is given here:

Why The Empire Strikes Back is overrated

The general consensus is that the second in the Star Wars trilogy - released 40 years ago - is the best. In fact, it’s to blame for the franchise’s problems, writes Nicholas Barber.

www.bbc.com

I'll add spoilers here, but let me know if it's not needed:

Spoiler: Spoiler

The first movie can stand alone, as it ends with the rebels triumphant and the Empire damaged severely. But the second movie starts as if it came from out of the blue: the rebels are on the run and the Empire is on the offensive. What major events happened between the two movies that led to that reversal? There some explanation in the intro scroll, but wouldn't that have deserved some exposition?

 

[Rodders]

I haven't seen Star Wars for a long time. Perhaps a nice rewatch of all the movies is needed. I'm not sure whyt Rerturn of the Jedi seems to be getting so much negativity.

Watched Andor, which i thought was excellent. Time taken to tell a good story and there was a lot of intrigue, which i really enjoyed.

I haven't yet seen The Clone Wars cartoons, but i hear that it was a a very good show.

 

[Swank]

Here's another point to consider about the first trilogy: someone pointed out that the second movie isn't very good, and that's because it starts with a very weird context. The explanation is given here:

Why The Empire Strikes Back is overrated

The general consensus is that the second in the Star Wars trilogy - released 40 years ago - is the best. In fact, it’s to blame for the franchise’s problems, writes Nicholas Barber.

www.bbc.com

I'll add spoilers here, but let me know if it's not needed:

Spoiler: Spoiler

The first movie can stand alone, as it ends with the rebels triumphant and the Empire damaged severely. But the second movie starts as if it came from out of the blue: the rebels are on the run and the Empire is on the offensive. What major events happened between the two movies that led to that reversal? There some explanation in the intro scroll, but wouldn't that have deserved some exposition?

This is silly. Star Wars makes no promises about the Rebel's victory over the Empire in general. ESB is, if anything, one of the most creative plot formats ever sold to movie audiences en masse.

Being contrarian sells articles.

 

[Cthulhu.Science]

There is one scene from

Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace​

that seems to set the stage for the entire Star Wars series - as far as involving Darth Vader, Luke Leia, et al.

The movie wraps up with the Theed Celebration. The palace front courtyard area has been cleaned up and repaired. A parade has been organized. Everyone is dressed in their finest.

and there stands little Anakin Skywalker, who single handedly took out the control ship and thereby winning the war. As he watches the planet celebrate, at least two complete civilizations saved. How many millions or billions of people? And all of these people, all of his "friends," with all this wealth couldn't be bothered to buy his mother out of slavery. This is the pivotal moment in the story.

 

[Swank]

There is one scene from

Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace​

that seems to set the stage for the entire Star Wars series - as far as involving Darth Vader, Luke Leia, et al.

The movie wraps up with the Theed Celebration. The palace front courtyard area has been cleaned up and repaired. A parade has been organized. Everyone is dressed in their finest.
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and there stands little Anakin Skywalker, who single handedly took out the control ship and thereby winning the war. As he watches the planet celebrate, at least two complete civilizations saved. How many millions or billions of people? And all of these people, all of his "friends," with all this wealth couldn't be bothered to buy his mother out of slavery. This is the pivotal moment in the story.

Or yet another plot hole.

 

[Cthulhu.Science]

Or yet another plot hole.

But this becomes an important plot point later when Anakin returns to find his mother dead. An important theme appears to be that the "Heroes" of the story are all self-centered A-holes who don't really care about anything other than themselves, including the Jedi. How many years of Jedi training did Anakin? How many years did Anakin date a literal princess? And while Yoda recognizes that Anakin fears for his mother, the Jedi do nothing to protect his mother. His princess girlfriend doesn't invite his mother to live with her in the Palace, or simply give his mother a house of her own. No. Instead she lets Anakin's mom rot in servitude.

These are the "heroes" of the story. This is world from Anakin's perspective as Anakin grows from a child to a man.

 

[Swank]

But this becomes an important plot point later when Anakin returns to find his mother dead. An important theme appears to be that the "Heroes" of the story are all self-centered A-holes who don't really care about anything other than themselves, including the Jedi. How many years of Jedi training did Anakin? How many years did Anakin date a literal princess? And while Yoda recognizes that Anakin fears for his mother, the Jedi do nothing to protect his mother. His princess girlfriend doesn't invite his mother to live with her in the Palace, or simply give his mother a house of her own. No. Instead she lets Anakin's mom rot in servitude.

These are the "heroes" of the story. This is world from Anakin's perspective as Anakin grows from a child to a man.

Or, its a dumb oversight on a project that often made little sense.