ACTORS mismatched to roles

[Moonbat]

Not quite on topic, but Brosnan in live wire has one of the campest bad guys ever

Mr O'Neil!

 

[Interference]

If anyone would like to see the true meaning of Acting, get a copy of Raise the Titanic, fast forward to the scene where the Alec Guinness is reminiscing about the sinking and watch his eyes. I've never seen a better film performance before or since.

Now throw away the rest of the film

 

[alchemist]

...but that was a truly awful film and Mr Wayne's brief performance?...

Surely you didn't mean to refer to the apocryphal story of Mr Wayne in the film?

JW: "Truly he was the son of God."
Director: "It needs more awe, Mr Wayne."
JW: "Aw, truly he was the son of God."

 

[Abernovo]

Yes, alchemist, I had heard that one. I've also been told a joke regarding that movie by a vicar, which I'm not going to repeat for fear of offending others (and the fear of being struck by random lightning).

Perhaps an embarrassing admission, but I do actually like a couple of Wayne's other films. No great actor, but in his niche, he could be effective. At least he went out on a decent movie, The Shootist.

 

[Interference]

The Shootist, The Searchers and True Grit can dare to be called "great films". Others were entertaining enough, Cheyenne Autumn being the cream of those, and Wayne was big enough to fill the landscapes he rode through.

Of the few "modern day" films he made, there aren't many you wouldn't be tempted to call dire. Talk about mis-casting

 

[Ray Pullar]

For physical miscasting and John Wayne how about his role as Genghis Khan in The Conqueror (1956)? Hollywood has a problem with Mongolians.

 

[Interference]

Yeah, I think the Hollywood Mongols are confused by the spelling

Just been watching again, and struck once more by the horrendous miscasting of John Thaw as Morse - I know, I know, millions disagree with me (including Colin Dexter), but they're all wrong

 

[Starbeast]

David Carradine was chosen over Bruce Lee to play the chinese hero in the tv series Kung Fu. Plus, it was Bruce Lee who came up with idea for the show and Warner Bros movie company stole it. This fact still bothers me today.

 

[Metryq]

For physical miscasting and John Wayne how about his role as Genghis Khan in The Conqueror (1956)? Hollywood has a problem with Mongolians.

There probably weren't all that many Asian actors in Hollywood in 1956. Likewise, I have read that one impetus for anime was the lack of non-Japanese faces in Japanese live-action film. Why should that matter, you ask. It matters for the same reason John Wayne was mentioned above. Thus, we have lots of very western-looking characters in Japanese anime, even though they often have Japanese names. (Extraterrestrials and other exotic creatures are also a snap with animation.)

Now that CGI and MOCAP are highly polished arts, no character need be "physically miscast" anymore. Try pulling off that scrawny-to-astounding Capt. America stunt with a live actor. "Okay, station break for 6 months while we pump this guy up."

 

[Ray Pullar]

There probably weren't all that many Asian actors in Hollywood in 1956.

"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown."

A few appear in the 1958 Wayne movie The Barbarian and the Geisha. Fortunately, Duke doesn't play Japanese in that one.

 

[Metryq]

A few appear in the 1958 Wayne movie The Barbarian and the Geisha.

But did any of them have the "star power" to lead a film? I'm not suggesting that no Asian performers had the acting talent, but a competition for viewers (TV) was brewing in the 1950s. Stay home and watch westerns, or go to the cinema and watch them there?

 

[Azzagorn]

I can't buy Adrain Brody as the leader in Predators! Also, Daniel craig as lord azereal in the golden compass! However, the casting of Nicole Kidman worked for me.

 

[Jo Zebedee]

See I liked Daniel in that, and hated him as Bond. Far too macho, where was the intrigue?

 

[Jo Zebedee]

Just a quick thought; Tom cruise and Nicole Kidman, far and away. Rarely have I rolled with laughter at an Irish accent, we're pretty tolerant and used to sounding half-Scottish, but I laughed until I nearly passed out. Actually, still a classic in this house, just for the comedic value.

 

[Interference]

Ah, yes, twas on the very same day that RTE showed that film that the Celtic Tiger packed 'is shillelagh and started lookin' fer another land to roam and, finding none more worthy, led us into the current state of chassis that the world must now endure. Curse ye, Cruise! Curse ye, Kidman!

 

[Azzagorn]

Also Russel Crowe as Robin Hood his nottinghamshire accent was actually a mix of scottidh and irish!

 

[Jo Zebedee]

Also Russel Crowe as Robin Hood his nottinghamshire accent was actually a mix of scottidh and irish!

With a fair dose of Aussie: a classic of its genre.

My mum mutters about all actors who can't do accents, except Sean Connery who she loves in everything. Scottish English Norman King? (robin hood), Scottish James Bond, Scottish prohibition detecctive there is no end to the man's diverse accents.

Oh, nearly forgot; Scottish immortal Spanish prince.

 

[Connavar]

See I liked Daniel in that, and hated him as Bond. Far too macho, where was the intrigue?

Heh Bond too macho ?? Is that even possible

I bet you have never read or heard of the Fleming Bond. Craig is my fav Bond because Casino Royale is near copy of the book and the real book Bond. He is macho hardcore killer,smart and sometimes ladies man. Not the pretty boy player Brosnan and co played.

Craig is the only actor who were not miscasted as Bond ! Connery and Moore are great campy Bond but they are miles from Fleming Bond.

 

[Wybren]

Tom Cruise as Lestat in "An Interview with a Vampire" Lestat was supposed to be young, tall, seductive and slightly evil. I didn't feel that Cruise portrayed any of these qualities. It would have been better had it gone to Julian Sands as had been Rice's original pick, however Cruise had the bigger name so was given the part. I think too in that film Pitt also was the wrong choice for Louis.

 

[J-Sun]

My mum mutters about all actors who can't do accents, except Sean Connery who she loves in everything. Scottish English Norman King? (robin hood), Scottish James Bond, Scottish prohibition detecctive there is no end to the man's diverse accents.

Oh, nearly forgot; Scottish immortal Spanish prince.

Don't forget Scottish Russian sub commander.