String Theory

I don't think we are the first intelligent forms of life on this planet.

I don't quite know how 'intelligence' is defined these days but to me Dolphins are very intelligent and they originated before humans and so now they may be more intelligent than us in their own little ways. Great white sharks are also very intelligent, very curious, they want to learn more about what they don't know. They are more curious towards things they've never seen before than the things they see everyday, kinda like us since we barely think about everyday processes. Back in the age of the Dinosaurs, yes I relate back to them again:) , 64 million years ago had a different type of intelligence, they had no real need to speak to each other although communication would most definately have taken place in one form or another. So they were, for the millions of years that they existed, very intelligent. Many other forms of life on this planet are intelligent. We are not the only intelligent forms of life and like it or not we most probably weren't the first. 64 million years ago the dinosaurs existed, we've existed for a million years or so. BIG gap, anything could have developed in that time, it doesn't take too long to see that evolution paved the way for life and intelligence developed in many different forms suiting the lifeforms. We developed communication through words after using grunts and noise of the like. Other animals communicate differently but I have no doubt that they must be intelligent in order to find a way to 'talk' to each other and to grow up knowing that that's the way to interact requires some intelligence in the first place.

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[Percon]...Where the Bible has stated, we will describe, where the Bible has described, we will explain, where the Bible has explained, we will create...

We have the abilety to create, we have just temporarlily forgoten and will someday again remember.

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Maryjane
 
Would it invalidate the Bible, if aliens also had a story about God's only son dying for them?

Surely it was unique...

[Btw I do believe in the Bible I just like asking odd questions :D]
 
Nope, can imagine a god running similar scenarii in every planet with sentient species to show the way to all his children. If the theme interest you Amber, have a look at A Case of Conscience by James Blish.
 
I quite agree Leto, they wouldn't be shown the way by the same methods as us. Since some species would be much older then us in evolution they may have evolved into dicovering the truth on their own just as we will eventually. Jesus was the mesenger and they killed the mesenger but the way is oppen to us all we need do is seek it, the truth is within us all. We don't need misionaries sent to the more primitive sentient beiings on other planets to teach them the way, they're probably closer to the truth then we are.

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Leto said:
Nope, can imagine a god running similar scenarii in every planet with sentient species to show the way to all his children. If the theme interest you Amber, have a look at A Case of Conscience by James Blish.

Is that the short story about the priest going to another planet and he ends up being crucified?
 
nope, don't think so. It's a novel. But it's a recurrent theme for Blish. It's also one of the subplot in Dan Simmons'Hyperion
 
Mind and inteligence are woven into a fabric of our universe in a way that another surpasses our undertanding.
- Freeman Dyson

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live life you've imagined. as you simplify your life, the law of the univesre will be simpler.
-H.D. Thoreau

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I am reanimated long dead threads, sorry guys.
I just had a comment to make about the poster who said there were only a few dimensions on the first page. If I remember correctly, there are 11 mathematically proven dimensions that we, by our very nature, are not physically able to see or feel. String theory is quite plausible. Also, in later news, the ability to examine super gravity has shed more light on string theory, which is well on its way to becoming factual.
 
Super Gravity
Superstrings
Supersymetry

Its all just so super..
I've read about these thoeries and left with a vague but wider undertanding of how the universe really work.

For those of you who have problems undestanding more than 4 dimentions, I have a way of visualising them, which for all intensive purposes may not be completely accurate, but it sure as hll makes believing in sci fi easier.

Basically, you've all probably drawn the axis x and y on a maths text book - no problem
Then add another axis at any angle you like, call it Z - thats depth and it passes through the origin. 3 dimentions on a 2 dimentional surface already!
now you can add another axis, T or time - this can pass through the origin although it doesn't matter, but is completely independant and plots the instances of the XYZ axis.
Hard part over...

For the other dimentions draw small wavy or coiled lines, some of them overlapping, anywhere on the page. Those are dimentions A to G.
The way I think about 'super'dimentions and there relation to reality is the same way you'd think about calculus, a=bc is the eqivilant of c=a/b.
X:Y:Z (as in the dimensions) relates some how to A:B:C:D:E:F:G with a 'M' (being the theory of everything) linking them and then possibly allowing you to reform the axis on the aforementioned graph with A, B, C being the straight ones and everything else (even possibly time) being coiled in relation.
^^ Thats is a simplification ofcourse and it is possible to relativistic equations concering mutliple dimentions using parts of supergravity, superstrings and other theories which currently exist.
Someday, some E=mc^2 super star of an equation will come around and you'll be buying the T-shirts.
My bet is on XYZ/T = ABCDEFG(M^-2e). heh

Anyway, hope thats helped anyone perpexed
 
Hi all I been around for the past couple weeks probing to see if I could rise any attention, that attempt lasted for about as long as a flat tier. Anyway if anyone comes around to check I will be here. This thread appeared to have been of interest for some for a time. If not interested lets say we open a new thread for those girls who are interested in the bizarre, the mysterious and the enigmatic that comes from inner space. infinities of quantum physics.
Better eat your Wheaties, my sweeties, Maryjane is just as active cerebrally as she ever was, bionic brain knocks on noggin. "Hee, hee, hee."

Maryjane
 

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