CupofJoe
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With the look of the original SW trilogy it could have been a sight to see.Lucas originally wanted to do a Flash Gordon movie
With the look of the original SW trilogy it could have been a sight to see.Lucas originally wanted to do a Flash Gordon movie
Like Mary Poppins in the world of Blade Runner.With the look of the original SW trilogy it could have been a sight to see.
I heard that someone else had the rights and wouldn't release them. That someone later sold them to what's his name who created that stupid Flash Gordon of 1980. God!! I hated and still hate that movie.Lucas originally wanted to do a Flash Gordon movie
I don't think the effects in SW were any better than 2001, but they were used much more dynamically.A major factor in the initial success of Star Wars was the tremendous leap in special effects it showed. That initial scene where the starship comes down the screen, filling it up was just so, idk perfect. In the first year of it's showing, that never failed to grab everyone watching.
That someone later sold them to what's his name who created that stupid Flash Gordon of 1980. God!! I hated and still hate that movie.
I unironically love Flash Gordon. It's a camp masterpiece with a killer soundtrack. I honestly wish there were more movies like it.
Or Graphic novel?Someone should write a book about that!
No one today is reading 1930s comic books. I started reading comics about the time Flash came out, and it didn't remind me of the X-Men or Spider-Man. However, the actual comic strip looked considerably more dynamic and realistic than the film as well:I think that we've grown too accustomed to comic book adaptations being far too serious for their own good. So when we see a superhero movie where the good guys are good and the bad guys are evil - with nothing in between - we view it as unrealistic and artificial. But that's exactly what superhero comics were originally all about.
Lorenzo Semple Jr. wrote the script. He later recalled:
Dino wanted to make Flash Gordon humorous. At the time, I thought that was a possible way to go, but, in hindsight, I realize it was a terrible mistake. We kept fiddling around with the script, trying to decide whether to be funny or realistic. That was a catastrophic thing to do, with so much money involved... I never thought the character of Flash in the script was particularly good. But there was no pressure to make it any better. Dino had a vision of a comic-strip character treated in a comic style. That was silly, because Flash Gordon was never intended to be funny. The entire film got way out of control.[19]
I also think Flash Gordon was a great movie. Fantastic soundtrack, great visuals and a bunch of actors obviously having a whale of a time.
I would disagree with it being camp though. Camp for me suggests exaggerated; almost a parody of the genre or licence it represents. Barbarella is camp, and so is the 60s Batman show. Flash Gordon is a comic book adaptation, with colours, dialogue and on screen action that emulates this.
I think that we've grown too accustomed to comic book adaptations being far too serious for their own good. So when we see a superhero movie where the good guys are good and the bad guys are evil - with nothing in between - we view it as unrealistic and artificial. But that's exactly what superhero comics were originally all about.
You know that Dino de Laurentius made Barbarella as well?Whilst I agree that it has some of the elements, I wouldn't call it a camp movie. I do think that there has to be certain aspects of parody of the genre or licence the movie represents- eg Adam West's Batman and Barbarella, but I think that they trued to make Flash Gordon a two dimensional comic book hero - and they succeeded.
Iron Man, Ant Man, She-Hulk, recent Spider-Man, The Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool are highly serious?Considering just how serious and 'realistic are today's superheroes, I think we've lost sight of whatakes more a fun movie. Give me Adam West's Batman, Christopher Reeve's Superman and Sam Jones' Flash Gordon over any of the more modern iterations.
You know that Dino de Laurentius made Barbarella as well?
Iron Man, Ant Man, She-Hulk, recent Spider-Man, The Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool are highly serious?
I'm not busting on you for liking Flash. Lots of people do, and it certainly had style and spectacle.Yes , but to be fair he has been involved with a vast array of movies, including Barbarella, Flash Gordon and Dune.
I don't think that the movies you mention are serious, but most of them feature anti-heroes, or focus on the internal deliberations of the main characters. They aren't clear cut good vs evil superheroes vs super villains.
I enjoyed GotG immensely, and Deadpool was interesting, but not something I would want to watch a second time. Suicide Squad I didn't get on with at all. For me Flash Gordon is a joy to watch, with plenty of quotable lines, a great soundtrack and Von Sydow is a marvellous Ming.
But we all have different preferences and priorities for what we want from our entertainment, and I can fully understand why some would find the FG movie far too silly and lightweight in comparison with other science fiction films.
You know that Dino de Laurentius made Barbarella as well?
Iron Man, Ant Man, She-Hulk, recent Spider-Man, The Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool are highly serious?
This thread has gone so far off topic that it will soon come back and eat itself, but I couldn't really see a Flash Gordon franchise that was revised as a modern drama. If it was to be done, it would need to be in some alternative art deco universe where the Second World War didn't and has yet to take place. And the doubters would need to accept that the Earth could be in collision with planet Mongo, that you can hear sounds in the vacuum of space, spacecraft can produce smoke trails and land back again on their rockets, and that the existence of sharkmen and hawkmen doesn't seem at all odd. Otherwise, it will turn out like when the BBC made War of the Worlds a few years ago.The thing about Flash Gordon as a movie property, it wouldn't have taken much to revise that in a more modern drama that would have rivaled the Star Wars franchise.
And yet, here we are half a century later with nothing like Star Wars.The thing about Flash Gordon as a movie property, it wouldn't have taken much to revise that in a more modern drama that would have rivaled the Star Wars franchise.
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