Batman vs Superman (2016)

[Dave]

Batman v Superman confirmed at Comic-Con in 'beyond mythological' mash-up | Film | guardian.co.uk

Or, at least, a film featuring both superheroes.

Is it only me, or are there too many of these superhero films?

 

[PTeppic]

Apparently, the world-wide rites to this announcement are sponsored by Kleenex.

 

[Gordian Knot]

No, it's not only you. lol. But DC is desperate to achieve some of the level of success that even comes close to the Marvel juggernaut over the last decade or so.


Rank - Title - Studio - Lifetime Gross - Opening
1 Marvel's The Avengers - BV - $623,357,910 - 5/4/12
2 The Dark Knight - WB - $534,858,444 - 7/18/08
3 The Dark Knight Rises - WB - $448,139,099 - 7/20/12
4 Iron Man 3 - BV - $406,989,864 - 5/3/13
5 Spider-Man - Sony - $403,706,375 - 5/3/02
6 Spider-Man 2 - Sony - $373,585,825 - 6/30/04
7 Spider-Man 3 - Sony - $336,530,303 - 5/4/07
8 Iron Man - Par. - $318,412,101 - 5/2/08
9 Iron Man 2 - Par. - $312,433,331 - 5/7/10
10 - Man of Steel - WB - $285,021,000 - 6/14/13
11 Amazing Spider-Man - Sony - $262,030,663 - 7/3/12
12 The Incredibles - BV - $261,441,092 - 11/5/04
13 *Batman - WB - $251,188,924 - 6/23/89*
14 X-Men Last Stand - Fox - $234,362,462 - 5/26/06
15 Hancock - Sony - $227,946,274 - 7/2/08
16 X2: X-Men United - Fox - $214,949,694 - 5/2/03
17 Batman Begins - WB - $206,852,432 - 6/15/05
18 Superman Returns - WB - $200,081,192 - 6/28/06
19 *Batman Forever - WB - $184,031,112 - 6/16/95*
20 Thor - Par. - $181,030,624 - 5/6/11

That's 11 for Marvel, 7 for DC. But 2 of DC's movies were made before the turn of the millennium. Since the year 2000 it is still 11 for Marvel but only 5 for DC.

 

[Allegra]

Yes too many superhero films! As if they run out of ideas they just put two together in one film... I wonder who is the villain?

 

[Jonathan C]

No, it's not only you. lol. But DC is desperate to achieve some of the level of success that even comes close to the Marvel juggernaut over the last decade or so.


Rank - Title - Studio - Lifetime Gross - Opening
1 Marvel's The Avengers - BV - $623,357,910 - 5/4/12
2 The Dark Knight - WB - $534,858,444 - 7/18/08
3 The Dark Knight Rises - WB - $448,139,099 - 7/20/12
4 Iron Man 3 - BV - $406,989,864 - 5/3/13
5 Spider-Man - Sony - $403,706,375 - 5/3/02
6 Spider-Man 2 - Sony - $373,585,825 - 6/30/04
7 Spider-Man 3 - Sony - $336,530,303 - 5/4/07
8 Iron Man - Par. - $318,412,101 - 5/2/08
9 Iron Man 2 - Par. - $312,433,331 - 5/7/10
10 - Man of Steel - WB - $285,021,000 - 6/14/13
11 Amazing Spider-Man - Sony - $262,030,663 - 7/3/12
12 The Incredibles - BV - $261,441,092 - 11/5/04
13 *Batman - WB - $251,188,924 - 6/23/89*
14 X-Men Last Stand - Fox - $234,362,462 - 5/26/06
15 Hancock - Sony - $227,946,274 - 7/2/08
16 X2: X-Men United - Fox - $214,949,694 - 5/2/03
17 Batman Begins - WB - $206,852,432 - 6/15/05
18 Superman Returns - WB - $200,081,192 - 6/28/06
19 *Batman Forever - WB - $184,031,112 - 6/16/95*
20 Thor - Par. - $181,030,624 - 5/6/11

That's 11 for Marvel, 7 for DC. But 2 of DC's movies were made before the turn of the millennium. Since the year 2000 it is still 11 for Marvel but only 5 for DC.

You missed Green Lantern. You could also count Constantine, V for Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, A History of Violence, Red, the upcoming Red 2, Road to Perdition....All of these are based on DC-published comic books.

But true, they want to imitate the success of the Avengers franchise. The Nolan series actually messed that up a bit.

Yes too many superhero films! As if they run out of ideas they just put two together in one film... I wonder who is the villain?

Its not just a case of them running out of ideas. They are setting up a Justice League film and those two are the heart of the Justice League. I guess they just don't want to follow the Avengers model too closely.

A JL film seems to be on its way in 2017. A Flash movie will be out the year before that, so presumably they will introduce Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and re-introduce Green Lantern in the JL movie proper, and / or Aquaman.

 

[thaddeus6th]

Jonathan, surely no-one misses Green Lantern?

 

[Gordian Knot]

I didn't miss Green Lantern. I listed the top grossing Superhero films. GL wasn't on the list! It came in at number 34 to be exact. Some of the others I don't think really qualify as superhero movies.

At any rate, here is the link to where I found my information.
Superhero Movies at the Box Office - Box Office Mojo

 

[Jonathan C]

I didn't miss Green Lantern. I listed the top grossing Superhero films. GL wasn't on the list! It came in at number 34 to be exact. Some of the others I don't think really qualify as superhero movies.

At any rate, here is the link to where I found my information.
Superhero Movies at the Box Office - Box Office Mojo

Ah; this is the American box office. I was wondering why none of the films you listed had broken a billion dollars.

(GL doesn't qualify worldwide either, but the film did a bit better than a lot of other Marvel films).

Most of the others might not be superhero films, but they are DC films, and you never said anything about superheroes. Main point is, this isn't simply a desperation move, as DC movies aren't exactly in trouble. They've probably been planning this for some time. It seems to me to be more like they haven't been sure what direction to take their franchises.

 

[Gordian Knot]

"Most of the others might not be superhero films, but they are DC films, and you never said anything about superheroes."

The OP kinda spelled that out with his post by asking if there have been too many superhero films!

You are right about the totals being American box office only. I don't understand why that site does it that way, as the overseas market on films can often be larger than the total gross in the U.S.

 

[Jonathan C]

Well, anyway, allegedly the Joker will be in it. And Lex Luthor.

I think, like a lot of people, I would have preferred MoS 2 before this movie. Its not the film I'm against, just the timing.

 

[Harpo]

If Superman is an alien, does that mean Batman is a predator?

 

[JoanDrake]

"Most of the others might not be superhero films, but they are DC films, and you never said anything about superheroes."

The OP kinda spelled that out with his post by asking if there have been too many superhero films!

You are right about the totals being American box office only. I don't understand why that site does it that way, as the overseas market on films can often be larger than the total gross in the U.S.

My understanding is that it has to do with US money being channeled through Distribution companies which actually make the studios more, somehow, though I could be wrong.

Yes, there are too many Superhero movies, but everyone knew the comics would supplant the cinema if good FX ever became cheap enough

 

[Rivaelen]

Well now it's Batman vs. Superman (vs. Wonder Woman)

 

[Boneman]

Yawn... "How else can we make money from the suckers who buy cinema tickets?"

 

[Glisterspeck]

I thought it was going to follow the storyline from Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns? Batman and Daredevil were the only two mainstream comics I followed, as in, bought more of after exhausting the boxes of back issues I inherited from my older cousin when I was a kid. The leather bound Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns was the first trade I ever bought. Great story. I hope it's the basis for the film.

 

[Brian G Turner]

Frank Miller's story is already an animated film, if of interest:

 

[Glisterspeck]

Looks pretty sweet, thanks!

 

[Starbeast]

Batman vs Superman

Or, at least, a film featuring both superheroes.

Is it only me, or are there too many of these superhero films?

Looks like DC is playing it safe, by only having a couple of heros (maybe more) because of the many unsuccessful attempts in the past.

Like the Justice League of America movie from 1997.

link: Justice League of America Pilot Review - YouTube​

However, since Batman and Superman have had a retooling, they have been more entertaining, and much darker.​

I am a comic book fan (since I was a kid), and I hope this new film featuring the biggest DC characters will be great.​

Personally, I think DC should have done a Brave and the Bold film series. And like in the comic book series, showcase two heros working together to fight against villians. I don't see long term movie series for DC's other superheros. Because if they pump out more awful films like Catwoman, Green Lantern, Superman Returns and Green Hornet (even Dark Knight Rises and Jonah Hex was pushing it a bit much), DC will be labeled as "box-office poison".


And Dave, I can never have enough GOOD superhero movies.​

 

[quantumtheif]

Well marvel Made too much from Avenger's , so the formula for blockbusters is to have many different heroes in one movie. I Wouldn't be surprised if DC was working up to a justice league movie.

 

[Cat's Cradle]

I love Superman as a comic book character...he might be my favorite all-time, but I am really worried about the lead actors in this film...it could be DOA, IMO, because of them. I don't think this is based on the Frank Miller story, is that right? At least if they had a great source material there would be a bit more chance of a good film. Well, we can hope for something special!