Ways in Which Electronic Readers Change the Book World.

Gordian Knot

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As one who (tries) to make his living in the used book world, this subject gives me plenty to think about. I would be curious, and grateful for your views on this topic.

Specifically.
There have always been 3 typical kinds of people who like books.

There are the Readers. They have no interest in the book beyond reading it. They are the ones who have traditionary purchased used paperbacks, or checked books out of the library.

Then there are the Collector/Readers. They love reading as much as the Readers, but that is not enough for them. CRs want to have the physical book itself. A book club edition will not do. They want a first printing, or even better, a signed limited edition.

Finally there are the Collectors. Sure they read some. But their primary interest is acquiring the books themselves. Books become collectibles to these folks. Their interest is in having the rarest books they can afford, in the best possible condition they can find them.
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The Brave New World of the electronic reader changes everything. It essentially eliminates the second two categories. You cannot buy a signed limited copy of an E Book. There has been some attempt to market "signed" E Books, etc., but it is silly and just a gimmick. You cannot preen over the beautiful E copy of a Hemingway first printing. No such thing exists in the digital world.

Unsurprisingly, I see the breakdown most predominantly by age groups. Younger people have been trained that everything comes from the Internet. Books, movies, music. Most seem fine with this. They have little to no need to own physical copies of things.

Middle aged (termed as such only to separate them from the young and the old) have bought physical books most of their lives. An interesting movement amongst this group is that they buy the E Book to read, but the books they really like, they head to the used book stores to acquire a physical copy of the first edition. Because the collector in them still desires the physical book.

The Older aged, as you might expect, for the most part are unimpressed with E Books, unless they were part of that first group of Readers already. Otherwise these folks are most comfortable with a physical book they can own and hold. Most of them are not interested in changing.

Obviously as the years go by, the turn to E Books will rise as the elderly die off, and the middle aged follow.

Is there a place for physical books in this new world? If so, what kinds of books do you see as surviving?
 
Not sure how long it's going to take to happen but, yes, I think that eventually few if any books will be produced on paper. The reading technology still has a long way to go before that is the case. But eventually I think it will happen. Maybe there will still be a specialist 'craft' market for people making printed books but I really don't think it will be more than that. Sooner or later your book collectors will all be antique-book collectors.

Some might hate that and it will likely take another few generations but it will surely come.
 
I'm in the middle-aged group. I enjoy many of the convenient features of ebooks, although I still have many print books on my shelves. Some of the print books are "collectible," such as a leather bound THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS. That's obviously not a first edition, just a decorative book, and I enjoy it for that.

I have various "art" books that will probably never be replaced by electronic devices—even a high-res "Retina display" iPad. (I may still be wrong—AirPlaying to a bigger screen might become popular.) These art books are a mix of things from the old masters (painters, sculptors, etc.) to anatomy and "making of" movie books. A complete transition of at least text books to ereaders will probably take a generation. After that, print and/or art books will persist if there is a market.

Ultimately, I think we may all be surprised by something completely unexpected. "Like what?" I don't know, that's what I mean by unexpected. When home video machines first appeared, they had obvious utility, but did anyone truly foresee the "nostalgia market" that grew out of it?
 
Books format is more a matter of habits. Socrates complained that writing is destroying thinking. Papyrus readers probably did not liek books. And paperback lovers will hate Kindle. The new generations will be acustomed with electronic books. They will have an entire library with them in a memory stick. they will not see any advantage of having real books.
I like reading real books but this is because teh first book I read was like this.
I think that now the problem is will the newer generations still read books or will prefere dynamic media and movies?
 
I don't claim to have a unique perspective, but it is from a fairly odd angle. I have experience as an editor and book designer, and I'm also a librarian. It's beyond safe to say that I love books, and I'm definitely a reader. But I'm in-between your reader and reader / collector categories. I can't stand used books, if I'm going to own a book, I want it to be new. This probably stems from having to buy so many used textbook while going to college.

I think the end of mass market print is inevitable, and a whole lot closer than people want to accept. Organizations like libraries will hang on to their print collections longer than many people I think, because for the most part we seem to almost fetishize the physical object as much as the information contained therein. That said, digital is going to win, just like it has everywhere else. It's not a question of if, but of when. But print for the sake of collecting will never die. Just as people collect LPs, or stamps, people will still collect printed books. Besides, we need to have something to fall back on when society collapses and we lose access to the digital collections.

Digital preservation is a big concern for libraries, and as more people convert to digital books, it will become a really big topic for the general public. The headache librarians have had to deal with over the years is going to land squarely in readers' laps over the next decade or so. Changing format standards, proprietary formats, longevity and compatibility of physical devices. It's going to mirror the Beta, VHS, laserdisc, DVD, Blueray shenanigans fairly closely, I think. "Oh, there's a new standard format. Should I buy my whole collection again or simply wait for the next one, or the one after that?" It's going to be rough.

Granted, converting between digital formats is a lot easier than converting between physical formats, but there will be a lot of data lost and a lot of books that will have to be reformatted for new standards rather than simply converted. As a book designer I've had to make those reformatted books. Sometimes it's easy and painless, others it's necessary to entirely redo the layout of the book. As a reader I've also used programs like Calibre to convert one format to another, and it's generally smooth and painless, but, depending on the library's contract with their vendors, that's simply not an option for them.

I would disagree with your age breakdown though. I've seen 20 year olds refuse to read on digital devices and met 70 year olds who are early adopters.

Lots to think about and ponder, but the only thing I can say for sure it that it's certainly going to be interesting, in a completely nerdy way.
 
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Im 30 years olds and as long i live i will always be reader/collector who will only read real paper books. I dont care about newer generations as long as there are real books for me.

I dont collect first prints,editions or somethings. Im a reader who buys mostly paperbacks to keep only the fav books.

Funny all the reading kids i know read only paper books. The new technology is only games,ipads and other distractions for them. I wonder if the new way of reading electronicly will hurt the potential readers or not. We mostly learn to read books in school.
 
There's been a couple of mentions of school books. I suspect that's where the dam will burst. Eventually schools will ditch physical text books and switch to ebooks. I know they are not really good enough yet for text books (at least ones with diagrams etc.) but again they will be within a few more years.

And it will happen sooner rather than later.

The first time I was allowed to use a calculator was at uni, now they are standard bits of kit in all schools. I should imagine it is pretty much impossible to go to uni now without a laptop or computer of some description. How long before the tops of kids school desks are actually computer screens?

Once kids do all their reading at school using ebooks it will be just a matter of time....
 
Don't forget that for those who live in countries where English language books are either expensive, limited-range or just plain hard to get hold of, e-readers are a true blessing. I can't go to the local library or second-hand bookstore for my reading fix, so e-books it is! Between reading in digital format or not reading, the choice is obvious...
 
Don't forget that for those who live in countries where English language books are either expensive, limited-range or just plain hard to get hold of, e-readers are a true blessing. I can't go to the local library or second-hand bookstore for my reading fix, so e-books it is! Between reading in digital format or not reading, the choice is obvious...

Thats the only real good thing about ebooks really. Helping people that dont have it easy to find libraries,other offline book places. Thats the advantage of new technology.
 
There's been a couple of mentions of school books. I suspect that's where the dam will burst. Eventually schools will ditch physical text books and switch to ebooks. I know they are not really good enough yet for text books (at least ones with diagrams etc.) but again they will be within a few more years.

And it will happen sooner rather than later.

The first time I was allowed to use a calculator was at uni, now they are standard bits of kit in all schools. I should imagine it is pretty much impossible to go to uni now without a laptop or computer of some description. How long before the tops of kids school desks are actually computer screens?

Once kids do all their reading at school using ebooks it will be just a matter of time....
I think educational books are where a lot of the most heated arguments are going to rage: they're expensive, they're a big part of some publishers' revenue stream (and probably the stable part). I really can't see their publishers willingly letting these appear in easily-copied digital formats.
 
I just prefer paper books. They are more comfortable to read and I don't get a glare headache. I'm also in the collector category of book lovers. I keep all my books, so a digital file does not scratch that itch for me.
 
Thats the only real good thing about ebooks really.

Only?

One can change the font size to something more comfortable. Words or phrases can be searched with greater ease and completeness than printed indexes. (And many print books may not even have an index. For that matter, entire batches of ebooks can be searched in one shot.) Dictionaries are built-in. Highlights and notes can be made without permanently altering the book. A library of reference material can be carried around in one discreet package. For those ereaders that support Web connectivity, the library of resources is even greater. The ebook formats supporting multimedia are slowly beginning to appear—that's as big a bonus to educational volumes as half-tone and full-color printing. (Older books may have been limited to line drawings, or "plates" only on special pages.)

And that's just the beginning.
 
There's another kind of accessibility apart from the "different countries" one - and that's the time of day. Since I got my Kindle, there's been at least half a dozen times that I've finished a book late in the evening - and now I can get the sequel in seconds, without leaving my chair or getting out of bed, even assuming that there would be any booksellers open at that time of night...
 
Only?

One can change the font size to something more comfortable. Words or phrases can be searched with greater ease and completeness than printed indexes. (And many print books may not even have an index. For that matter, entire batches of ebooks can be searched in one shot.) Dictionaries are built-in. Highlights and notes can be made without permanently altering the book. A library of reference material can be carried around in one discreet package. For those ereaders that support Web connectivity, the library of resources is even greater. The ebook formats supporting multimedia are slowly beginning to appear—that's as big a bonus to educational volumes as half-tone and full-color printing. (Older books may have been limited to line drawings, or "plates" only on special pages.)

And that's just the beginning.

Yeah but books don't ever run out of battery power. ;)
 
Fishbowl said "I would disagree with your age breakdown though. I've seen 20 year olds refuse to read on digital devices and met 70 year olds who are early adopters."

Of course there are exceptions. There are always exceptions. My breakdown was speaking in generalities. I.E. what the largest groups of people are doing. Geez ya would'a thought that was obvious!
 
Vertigo said "Some might hate that (few books will be printed on paper) and it will likely take another few generations but it will surely come."

Wish I could be that optomistic V. I think that within a generation, books will still be around, but the preponderance of books will be acquired through E readers.
 
I would fall into the collector/reader category. I also guess I am middle-aged (47). But I am in the tech business so I have been reading ebooks a long time, since Window CE/Palm III PDA's and such which would be mid 90's I guess.

Anyway, even though I have read ebooks for a long time it was more a novelty until I got a Kindle. Prior to the kindle I usually got my books used from a chain in the States call Half-Price Books. For books or authors I really loved I would either buy new hardback first releases or look for them at the used bookstore.

Once I got my Kindle I was reading on that almost exclusively. Then Apple decided to try and break into the business and by working with the publishers caused the price of ebooks to increase. This caused me to reflect on some things that I have learned along the way.

First, I realized that I love owning a book, at least what I consider good books by great authors. I like them on my shelves. Book club editions = bad however...

Second, I love the smell of a good book :), there just a unique smell to a nice comfortable hardback isnt there?

Third, In many cases I was spending the same amount if not a bit more for the ebook over the cost of a used hardback. Since Apple's little trick the prices are certainly equal to or more than the used hardback. This is more pronounced in older books.

Side note: One popular author commented on the whole Apple mess to the effect that it was a good move for the publishers, authors, editors etc. My comment to him was that in my case when ebooks were originally priced I was buying them which benefited the publishers, authors, etc compared to when I buy it used from which they get nothing and with publishers trying to raise prices of the ebooks it will cause me to go back to used books.

Anyway, I have for the moment balanced out between ebooks and buying used books. Initially this has happened because the pricing issue, but I have since realized that I missed the thrill of the hunt at a used bookstore and the physical/aesthetic characteristics of a good book. I have started seeking out and buy hardback editions of books/authors I love (Alastair Reynolds for one) whether it is used or first editions.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on it all.
 
Only?

One can change the font size to something more comfortable. Words or phrases can be searched with greater ease and completeness than printed indexes. (And many print books may not even have an index. For that matter, entire batches of ebooks can be searched in one shot.) Dictionaries are built-in. Highlights and notes can be made without permanently altering the book. A library of reference material can be carried around in one discreet package. For those ereaders that support Web connectivity, the library of resources is even greater. The ebook formats supporting multimedia are slowly beginning to appear—that's as big a bonus to educational volumes as half-tone and full-color printing. (Older books may have been limited to line drawings, or "plates" only on special pages.)

And that's just the beginning.


What you mean is good for ebook fans but i think the potential freedom it gives for readers like Juliana who gets books they couldnt get otherwise because of language,the cost is much more important than font size. Giving readers the same chance to read with digital books is great.

Why im not real negative about ebooks. It helps others who dont have it as easy as some of us to collect,read paper books. I know not everyone has a great,big library to go when you cant buy new books.
 

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