j d worthington
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Ringworld -- indeed, the entire Known Universe series -- is a good case in point. While I do enjoy those books (on the whole), and feel that they can hold the interest and are full of some very fascinating ideas... Niven's prose (here and in general) is, to say the least, lacking. I don't think I have ever recommended this series to anyone beginning to look into the field; this is one for those who already evince a strong taste for sf and, moreover, specifically for sf adventure tales.
Asimov, on the other hand, could write in a wide variety of prose styles, as I noted above. And yes,even though it has been many years since I last read The Gods Themselves, I do recall being impressed with the writing in several portions of that one... quite different from his "normal" voice, as it were.
Incidentally, a point or two which Ian raised in his essay on the Foundation Trilogy (see his link above) caught my interest; on one of them I think he is right, in the main: the use of "Galaxy", etc., instead of the current "God!", or other expletives of a similar nature. I appreciate Asimov's intent here (which is more than a little complex itself, and does, in its own odd way, help build the characterization of his society), but the handling is another thing. The precept is admirable; the practice, however, is seriously faulted, and ends up being risible. Again, I would chalk this up to the young writer attempting something above his abilities at the time, especially given the constraints of the popular medium in which he was working.
On the other hand, the grandiose, faux-courtly dialect which Magnifico uses is quite another thing, and I think this is a lovely bit of characterization. It is very much a part of the Mule's Magnifico persona, and is dropped when the Mule becomes "himself". It, like all the terror tales about the Mule, is overblown, exaggerated, and false... a compensating factor for his own alienage and physical failings. It gives a fair amount of insight into his psychology, and works as a carefully balanced bit of the Clown aspect... yet there is a hint of the imperial weight behind it, too. It is by no means faultless, but I think this use of dialogue, at least, works rather well.
Asimov, on the other hand, could write in a wide variety of prose styles, as I noted above. And yes,even though it has been many years since I last read The Gods Themselves, I do recall being impressed with the writing in several portions of that one... quite different from his "normal" voice, as it were.
Incidentally, a point or two which Ian raised in his essay on the Foundation Trilogy (see his link above) caught my interest; on one of them I think he is right, in the main: the use of "Galaxy", etc., instead of the current "God!", or other expletives of a similar nature. I appreciate Asimov's intent here (which is more than a little complex itself, and does, in its own odd way, help build the characterization of his society), but the handling is another thing. The precept is admirable; the practice, however, is seriously faulted, and ends up being risible. Again, I would chalk this up to the young writer attempting something above his abilities at the time, especially given the constraints of the popular medium in which he was working.
On the other hand, the grandiose, faux-courtly dialect which Magnifico uses is quite another thing, and I think this is a lovely bit of characterization. It is very much a part of the Mule's Magnifico persona, and is dropped when the Mule becomes "himself". It, like all the terror tales about the Mule, is overblown, exaggerated, and false... a compensating factor for his own alienage and physical failings. It gives a fair amount of insight into his psychology, and works as a carefully balanced bit of the Clown aspect... yet there is a hint of the imperial weight behind it, too. It is by no means faultless, but I think this use of dialogue, at least, works rather well.