Fire & Ice

[The Wanderer]

It's a collaboration between Fantasy Artists Frank Frazetta Animation director Ralph Bakshi

Anyone seen this film?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_and_Ice_(1983_film)

Trailer

http://www.blue-underground.com/show_trailer.php?trailer=http://www.blue-underground.com/dev/quicktime/fireandicelg.mov&width=320&height=186

 

[Justin Thorne]

Yea it's great, and my kids also love it.

Isn't it the same team that brought us the original animated Lord of the Rings?

 

[gigantes]

the two films had bakshi in common... dunno about the other personnel.

anyway, yea... i love this film. it hit a lot of the standard fantasy motiffs (and suffered somewhat for it), but had some special things going for it.

rotoscoping was obviously an unusual treat for the eyes, but furthermore, several of the character readings were wonderfully inspired and unforgettable, such as the ice lord, his mother and the witch. the film also was unusual in having subtle nuance and humor side by side with the standard cheesiness. examples- the lassitude and perverted nature portrayed in the ice lord, the scene in which the aboriginal leader screams down his men, the shambling, ill-omened walk of the witch's henchman returning from his mission, the bumbling yet unpredictable nature of the aboriginals, the playful scene between the hero and the girl before he gets pulled down into the lake as dinner for the underwater monster and so many more. this film was not perfect but it had certain levels of spontaneity and cleverness in depiction that very few fantasy movies or animateds achieve.

favorite line- the hero says something like "so you're after necron too?" and the death-dealer replies "him and his mother" in that deathly grim tone.

 

[The_Warrior]

Oh yes,another good Relph Bakshi film. Heay, has any one seen Wizards? One of his erlier movies, and by oddness, look at my avater.

 

[The_Warrior]

Yea it's great, and my kids also love it.

Isn't it the same team that brought us the original animated Lord of the Rings?

Yes, he did do the first lotr animated film.

 

[Pyan]

Always thought it was a shame he never did complete the story of LotR. The rotoscoped Black Riders were awesome.

 

[The_Warrior]

Yeah, i forget who did The Return of The King.

 

[gigantes]

rankin-bass did return of the king and the hobbit.

 

[Foxbat]

You'll find my review of Fire And Ice here

http://www.chronicles-network.com/forum/33229-fire-and-ice.html

 

[gigantes]

The animation has a fluidity about it that makes it seem as if real actors have been used for the action scenes – such is the flow of movement.

that's because real actors were used, and not just for the action scenes.

first the actors were filmed, then their images were painted over on cels, then the cels were sequenced into a movie. this is called "rotoscoping".

for examples of modern, computer-assisted rotoscoping check out the films "waking life" and "a scanner darkly".

 

[dustinzgirl]

I love Fire & Ice. I love all the old cartoons, they had so much going for them. Nowdays, cartoons seem far too, well, cartoonish. At least this style has some believability to it. Like The Last Unicron and others in that genre and time frame.

A Scanner Darkly was beautiful, but kind of boring in many parts.