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So what about Jaran?

Discussion in 'Kate Elliott' started by Rahl Windsong, Feb 7, 2006.

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    Rahl Windsong

    Rahl Windsong Last of the Windsong Clan

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    Anyone know if this is fantasy or Sci-Fi? Also is it as good as her Crown of Stars series? I just ordered the Crown of Stars series and they aren't going to ship until May so there must be some shortage or something I don't understand. the only one amazon.ca had in stock was The Burning Stone and luckily I have read the previous 2. I don't get it I thought she was a popular author why are they short of her books??:confused: :(

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    Alia

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    The Jaran series is completely different. The writing style isn't the same as The Crown of Stars, except the last book is closer to her writing style that's in the Crown of Stars series. Also, these books are scifi and not fantasy.

    I enjoyed the Jaran Series (and so did a close friend of mine). But out of the two series, The Crown of Stars is my favorite while my friend preferred the Jaran series. I suppose it depends if you prefer fantasy to Scifi.
     
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    Teresa Edgerton

    Teresa Edgerton Goblin Princess Staff Member

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    The Jaran books are science fiction, but in an anthropological mode. There's a certain amount of romance. Strong female characters, as you might expect. They seemed like big, complex books until Crown of Stars came along.
     
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    Alia

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    Here's something I clipped from Kate's website:

    http://www.sff.net/people/Kate.Elliott/jaran.html

     
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    murphy

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    Just as a matter of information, Kate wrote a trilogy that precedes Jaran, but takes place in the same universe. It was written under the name Alis A. Rasmussen and is called the Highroad Trilogy, comprised of: A Passage of Stars, Revolution's Shore, and The Price of Ransom. I really enjoyed these books.
     
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    Teresa Edgerton

    Teresa Edgerton Goblin Princess Staff Member

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    Wow, it's not so easy to find someone who's read any of the books she wrote under her real name -- the publisher really didn't get behind the Highroad series, and it came and went pretty quickly.

    But they are very different from the Jaran books, wouldn't you say? Not so complex, more quickly paced.
     
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    murphy

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    Yes, but a very exciting story none the less. She also wrote a fantasy under her real name called The Labyrinth Gate. It seems to me I enjoyed it, but I have to confess, it's been a while and I don't remember the story. However, I kept the book, so I must have liked it. I dump the books I don't like or figure that I won't read again.
     
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    Rahl Windsong

    Rahl Windsong Last of the Windsong Clan

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    So Kate Elliott is not her real name? I have never been able to understand why an author would create something that they poured their heart and soul into and then not want to sign it. I guess there must be reasons but I doubt I would ever understand them.

    Rahl

    PS: Thanks for the info on her Jaran series I do like Sci-Fi so I might give it a go some day. I see Sci-Fi and Fantasy as nearly the same thing, which is speculative fiction. As long as its a good story then I'd like to read it.
     
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    Teresa Edgerton

    Teresa Edgerton Goblin Princess Staff Member

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    The reason for the name change in this case was that her publisher insisted. Since Baen and Bantam had not given her first four books the push that (some of us think) they deserved, the sales were ... uninspiring ... and DAW didn't want Jaran to come out with that kind of baggage attached, as far as the bookstores were concerned.

    DAW is known for really doing right by their authors, in terms of marketing and keeping books in print, but what they don't like to do is live with the consequences of another publishing house's failure to put forth the same kind of effort. So it's not unusual for them to take on an author that they really believe in -- someone who might have a very hard time finding a home for their books elsewhere because of past sales -- and re-invent them under a new name. They've successfully revived several careers that way.

    So it was a question of whether she wanted a book that she had indeed "poured her heart and soul into" published under a pseudonym, or not published under any name at all.

    Considering how everything worked out -- and the long list of wonderful books she has been able to write that might otherwise not have been written at all -- I think it was a wise choice.
     
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    murphy

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    It was because I had liked the Alis Rasmussen books that I bought the Jaran series. That plus the horses. I've always been horse crazy, even though I don't own a horse any more.
     
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    Alia

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    I can fix that.

    The reason why I like the Jaran series is because Kate drew inspiration from Genghis Khan when developing the main character and tribes of his planet.
     
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    Rahl Windsong

    Rahl Windsong Last of the Windsong Clan

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    Ok well I can understand that but now that she is famous, if I was in her place when her contract with that publisher ran out I would insist on a re-publish of the work under her real name or I'd find a new publisher for any future work. The "insisting" can work both ways at least I'd like to think that to be the case but then again I don't have any experience at all dealing with publishers.

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    Alia

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    I was talking to my friend last night about this thread and she told me that she read on Kate's website that Kate prefers to write Scifi more so than fantasy, but fantasy pays the bills.

    She also read that Kate is going to go back to the Jaran series now that she's down with the Crown of Stars series and finish writing it and she has names of all the books picked out. I believe there are going to be 8 or 9 of them.

    I haven't read or seen any of this news, maybe someone else has?
     
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    Teresa Edgerton

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    But she's famous as Kate Elliott, not Alis Rasmussen, Rahl. At this point, another publisher would probably insist on the Elliott name, too. And she'd be crazy to leave DAW, which is the kind of publisher most SF/Fantasy authors dream of working with.

    I know she's played with various ideas on how to revive the Rasmussen name over the years, but in the end I suppose she's decided she would rather concentrate on the writing.

    And there's more than ego at stake here. Writing is her career, her livelihood, her life's work. It's something she had the courage to stick with at a time when other writers in her position might have given up. I'm sure it means far, far more to her than just seeing her name on the cover of a book.

    Besides which, she's already had that experience.
     
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    Rahl Windsong

    Rahl Windsong Last of the Windsong Clan

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    Alright I see the point and I now wonder if Robin Hobb is the same? Didn't she publish as Meg Lindholm and then became famous as Robin Hobb? Or is her case the other way around?

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    Teresa Edgerton

    Teresa Edgerton Goblin Princess Staff Member

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    Yes, she did -- and probably for very similar reasons.
     
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    Eris Black

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    How many of the Jaran books have been published? I could only ever find the first two. The first I loved, the second was kinda so-so, and I couldn't find any more.

    ~Eris
     
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    murphy

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    There's a list of books at the top under bibliography. There are four of the Jaran books so far.
     
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    Eris Black

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    sigh, that's what I thought. I could never find the 3rd and was told it was probably out of print.
     
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    murphy

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    If you ever buy online, Barnes & Noble have it. Also, you could try Amazon or eBay.

    Just did a quick search. The first 3 books are still in print, the last book, The Law of Becoming is not. You can buy it used, but it is expensive for a paperback. The lowest price I could find was at Amazon and it was $14 and some odd cents.
     
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