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Definitely this. Book three would lose most of its impact without the developments in book two. Which reminds me of one of my favorite sequences in book 2... the riot and flight from Tarsis. In one understated chapter they convey more helpless terror than GRRM did in 700 pages of Clash of Kings.It's a continuous story, so you really want #2 to understand #3, Ray.
That was in Dragons of Winter Night... they were called the Knights of Solamnia. I think book two was the high point of the series, with the flight from Tarsis, the dream in Silvanesti, and the defense of the tower. It also is where you get most of Sturm's story, which as others have pointed out is one of the stronger characters. It's interesting how many people here note that Raistlin has aged poorly and Sturm become more interesting to them over the years. I think that is one of the strongest points of the series, the large cast gives something for everyone to an extent, and you can almost always find new things to enjoy when you go back to it, even if other parts seem weaker.I cannot remember which book or what the Order of Knights were called, but the chapters with Sturm leading the knights in the defense of their stronghold against Kitiara?? were really strong, more so than other parts of the series.
I really enjoyed your take on the book and agree pretty much entirely with it. I'm curious if you've read the next two books in the series? Most people would say the writing improves dramatically in those books, so a lot of that "telling" and cheese disappears. The characterization only gets better to boot (in most cases, Gilthanas is still a total turd though, your soppy elves comment couldn't be more accurate!).Would I recommend this book? It’s hard to say. When DoAT gets it right, it works, and on a slightly higher level than you might expect. But a reader ought to go in prepared.
They were the Knights of Solamnia as soul points out, and more specifically were tiered within by level of accomplishment:I cannot remember which book or what the Order of Knights were called, but the chapters with Sturm leading the knights in the defense of their stronghold against Kitiara?? were really strong, more so than other parts of the series.
Yes, this! Perfectly put.All of which makes me suspect that the opposite of Grimdark isn’t some sort of fluffy-bunny world where nobody gets hurt and it’s always summer, but a sort of supercharged awesomeness, a kind of violent optimism.
It holds up better than most of its peers in that regard. I'd encourage you to read on... I think book 2 is probably the best of the series and the writing improves notably after that first book, which really shows the D&D influence in places. The characters are really what drives the series though.I just read the first book, Dragons of Autumn Twilight, and I agree with much of what is written here. It’s enjoyable, pacey, and somewhat to my surprise, not rubbish at all. It’s actually rather well done, accepting that it is what it is - a D&D romp of limited depth. The characterisation is rather good and I enjoyed some of the scenes and settings.
Yes, this! Perfectly put.
I just finished rereading that yesterday and started Dragons of Winter Night. I enjoyed it. It was the part of the story I remembered most because I watched the animated movie a few years ago. Looking forward to the books I have less memory of.I've just started Dragons of Autumn Twilight
I've been told that Weis and Hickman's prose gets better over time as they honed their craft, so I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the series.I just finished rereading that yesterday and started Dragons of Winter Night. I enjoyed it. It was the part of the story I remembered most because I watched the animated movie a few years ago. Looking forward to the books I have less memory of.