Thoughts on the 1981 Science fiction film Outland

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I never thought of Connery as a serious actor but The Hill and the Offence do show that he was interested in doing something different--he could do it.
Likewise, Roger Moore did The Man Who Haunted Himself.

There's nothing wrong though with someone who has no range.
Charlton Heston was ok as Michelangelo-he was more internalized and moody than he usually was.

Charles Bronson didn't have a lot of range and that's totally fine.

There are worse things that could happen like Cillian Murphy being Deep Faked into Bronson's part in HARD TIMES.
 

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I never thought of Connery as a serious actor but The Hill and the Offence do show that he was interested in doing something different--he could do it.
Likewise, Roger Moore did The Man Who Haunted Himself.

There's nothing wrong though with someone who has no range.
Charlton Heston was ok as Michelangelo-he was more internalized and moody than he usually was.

Charles Bronson didn't have a lot of range and that's totally fine.

There are worse things that could happen like Cillian Murphy being Deep Faked into Bronson's part in HARD TIMES.


I have a lot of respect for actors who fought for their country and then appeared in action/war films. They knew precisely what it was like, and lent some gravitas and credibility to their roles.

Charles Bronson is a good example of someone who was born into extreme poverty, worked as a miner and then fought in WWII. Many of his roles reprised that figure of a person who has been through the worst of times and come through the other side. Some of his later work (ie the later Death Wish films) became almost a parody, but much of his earlier roles are very accomplished 'acting', although in many cases he was just being himself.

I always saw Connery as a serious actor. Some of his later Bond films became more comedic (and then went the whole way with Roger Moore), but movies such as The Hill, Outland, The Man Who Would Be King, The Name of the Rose and even smaller parts in Time Bandits, The Untouchables and Highlander should he could play a range of characters convincingly. The fact that he could also (usually) get away without masking his Scottish accent (notoriously as a Russian sub commander!) and still give a believable performance speaks wonders for him.
 

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I have a lot of respect for actors who fought for their country and then appeared in action/war films. They knew precisely what it was like, and lent some gravitas and credibility to their roles.

Charles Bronson is a good example of someone who was born into extreme poverty, worked as a miner and then fought in WWII. Many of his roles reprised that figure of a person who has been through the worst of times and come through the other side. Some of his later work (ie the later Death Wish films) became almost a parody, but much of his earlier roles are very accomplished 'acting', although in many cases he was just being himself.

I always saw Connery as a serious actor. Some of his later Bond films became more comedic (and then went the whole way with Roger Moore), but movies such as The Hill, Outland, The Man Who Would Be King, The Name of the Rose and even smaller parts in Time Bandits, The Untouchables and Highlander should he could play a range of characters convincingly. The fact that he could also (usually) get away without masking his Scottish accent (notoriously as a Russian sub commander!) and still give a believable performance speaks wonders for him.

Yes, and I liked him as Henry Jones SR In Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Befuddled and passionate about find the Quest for the Grail. Him and Harrison Ford together was very memorable and entertaining. :D
 

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Yes, and I liked him as Henry Jones SR In Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Befuddled and passionate about find the Quest for the Grail. Him and Harrison Ford together was very memorable and entertaining. :D


And surprising that there was only 12 years in age between them. The movie seemed to suggest a difference of at least double - perhaps even treble - that amount.
 

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Connery's performance really elevated this film.:)


My favourite of all the Indy movies. So many quotable lines, and most of them delivered by Henry Sr.

"She talks in her sleep." Apparently this line was ad-libbed by Connery, but had to be re-shot as everyone on set burst out laughing.
 

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The thing about Bronson is that when he played a mountain man--you could totally believe it.

I think they must have been compelled to make Marcus Brody a goofy character (unlike the first movie) so that it didn't make Connery the sole comedy relief. He had to be less goofy than Brody in order for the character to be more serious when he needed to be.
It was jarring how Marcus became a joke--the scene where he is introduced--lost in the town. The audience burst into laughter but I was thinking--what happened to him?
He had an important role in the first movie to make sure you know how spooky the Ark is. Sallah did too--but he also had comedy stuff. And Sallah is more serious in Last Crusade.
 

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The thing about Bronson is that when he played a mountain man--you could totally believe it.

I think they must have been compelled to make Marcus Brody a goofy character (unlike the first movie) so that it didn't make Connery the sole comedy relief. He had to be less goofy than Brody in order for the character to be more serious when he needed to be.
It was jarring how Marcus became a joke--the scene where he is introduced--lost in the town. The audience burst into laughter but I was thinking--what happened to him?
He had an important role in the first movie to make sure you know how spooky the Ark is. Sallah did too--but he also had comedy stuff. And Sallah is more serious in Last Crusade.


I think that the switch with Brody was largely for Indy's gag about him having reached the grail already. Indy quip about him losing himself in his own museum really doesn't ring true with the character from the first movie, nor the possibility of him reaching the position that he did if he was so inept.

Probably would have been better leaving him out of the movie altogether (Although I'm sure the actor himself was quite pleased to be reprised with a tidy pay cheque).
 

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I did like this film grittiness . And, it's one Connery's best acting performances and Kudos for Peter Boyle and Francis Sternhagen too. :cool:

I don't know would you count it as one his finest performances. For that I think you are looking at The Hill, The Man Who Would Be King or The Offence
 

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I don't know would you count it as one his finest performances. For that I think you are looking at The Hill, The Man Who Would Be King or The Offence

Because O'Niel in all of his flaws and unlikabilty was believable . To be able to play that kind of hero and o it tha well require pretty good acting chops. He makes this film work as well as it does.
 

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