What are Your Thoughts on Disney's Ownership of the Marvel And Star Wars Franchises ?

[BAYLOR]

I must confess that i've been rather dismayed at Kathleen Kennedy's handling of Lucasfilm and her dismantling the heroes of my childhood.

Vince's review is the first positive review of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny that i've read so far and is probably the only one that would make me want to see it.

Scuttlebutt is that Disney is looking to sell Lucasfilm to a Saudi Arabian for $8bn. (I hear that Saudi wants to carve a niche for itself into the entertainment industry.) This is all unconfirmed.

Saudi Arabia’s Film AlUla Begins Construction On Large Studio Complex

The first phase will encompass approximately 330,000 square feet and is scheduled to be up and running for the fourth quarter of 2023.

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If they bought Lucas Films , thye get the right to Stand Wars and Indiana Jones.

 

[BAYLOR]

I feel like Disney's past ventures with Marvel movies have been a slam dunk, the writing and story progression seemed to be pretty enjoyable. Unfortunately a lot of their new stuff seems to fall a little flat IMO. I feel like the main series Star Wars trilogy that they did was really poor, the first one seemed alright but oh God those last two. But they also seem to have struck gold with The Mandolorian, and that new Andor series shows promise so I feel there's a new hope there.

They've been have a problem with Box office flops of late.

 

[BAYLOR]

China is rapidly becoming less than profitable for alll US based studios including Disney . Many Chinese films goersare going to Domestic films instead.

 

[Rodders]

Watching the "Sound of Freedom" thing unravel has been pretty interesting.

The problem with Disney is that they've stopped making quality movies. That's it.

 

[Harpo]

China is rapidly becoming less than profitable for alll US based studios including Disney . Many Chinese films goersare going to Domestic films instead.

In 2021, the two biggest films behind Spider-Man: No Way Home were Chinese. It’s a huge market

 

[BAYLOR]

In 2021, the two biggest films behind Spider-Man: No Way Home were Chinese. It’s a huge market

China's domestic film industry has had hits like The Wandering Earth. A film spectacle which look lit it came out of Hollywood.

 

[Rodders]

At the risk of abusing forum rules, I think that the agenda that the US is pushing out to other nations is causing something of a backlash.

I saw something last night that suggested that Lucasfilm's value has plummeted to a quarter of it's purchase price. I don't know how I can verify such a claim, but it would appear that Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny has lost money, as have other Disney/Lucasfilm projects.

 

[RDArmstrong]

I like the Ashoka series okay. It's still early on. I did not like Obi Wan.

 

[paranoid marvin]

At the risk of abusing forum rules, I think that the agenda that the US is pushing out to other nations is causing something of a backlash.

I saw something last night that suggested that Lucasfilm's value has plummeted to a quarter of it's purchase price. I don't know how I can verify such a claim, but it would appear that Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny has lost money, as have other Disney/Lucasfilm projects.

Disney have rinsed Star Wars for all its worth, merchandising and giving serials to every character they think it will work for. There really isn't anywhere for the franchise to go now. The same has happened with Marvel.

That isn't the fault of Disney; they've seen a market and made the most of it. Problem is that they've oversaturated it.

The wise move would have been to back off before they got to that state, but Disney have the capacity to put a franchise on the back-burner for a couple of decades before unleashing it again.

The only question is what will be next.

 

[BAYLOR]

Why don't they do a Marvel/Star Wars Crossover film ?

 

[paranoid marvin]

Why don't they do a Marvel/Star Wars Crossover film ?

Difficult when SW was set a long time ago. I think they pretty much covered the 'space' angle with GotG, which would be hard to top.

 

[Adeptus]

I still have a grudge against Disney for cancelling old SW Expanded Universe, especially when they were not able to provide anything at least hals as good. And hate when some people nowadays buy "Oh, but old EU was a mess, Disney had to cancel it to start more coherent storytelling". Quite the contrary. Old EU was extremely coherent, especially considering massive amount of works being parts of it. It was much more coherent than much smaller new UE.

 

[Rodders]

Why don't they do a Marvel/Star Wars Crossover film ?

To be fair, Marvel is dying its own death.

Disney is failing on all fronts. I think it's fair to say that the quality of Marvel movies has dipped since Endgame. Disney's own brands have suffered some terrible losses and then there's Star Wars.

I don't think i can forgive Kathleen Kennady (and by extention, Disney), for disrespecting George Lucas and the Star Wars that he created. I also don't forgive them for not letting Han, Luke, Leia and the Droids share a scene, or two. That's what we wanted.

Lack of vision and planning for the stories is a major contributing factor. I mean "somehow... Palpatine returned" is attrocious.

Intersectional politics and the DEI movement has turned many customers off, i think. I have no objection to a strong female lead, but make them interesting.

I think that Disney have taken each brand for granted, believing that they'll generate money regartdless of the quality of product they pump out.

Poor story telling and weak characters. I haven't yet seen Obi-Wan or the Book of Boba Fett (I'm waiting for the blu-ray releases), but some of the scenes that i have seen look ridiculous. I have to say that the acting i've seen on many of these shows (including Ahsoka) has been pretty wooden.

I also think that there's an overreliance on OT characters that has made the Star Wars universe really small.

Adeptus is correct. The EU is far stronger than most of what Disney have given us, but to be fair, i completely understand why they'd want to go their own way. They should've gone further and not returned to the Skywalker's and the Solo's. That story ended.

I continue to be a Star Wars fan, but at the moment, i'm doing it more from habit than love and i'm not sure how long i can hold on.

 

[Swank]

I think we did this to ourselves by loudly embracing fan service.

 

[thaddeus6th]

I still have a grudge against Disney for cancelling old SW Expanded Universe, especially when they were not able to provide anything at least hals as good. And hate when some people nowadays buy "Oh, but old EU was a mess, Disney had to cancel it to start more coherent storytelling". Quite the contrary. Old EU was extremely coherent, especially considering massive amount of works being parts of it. It was much more coherent than much smaller new UE.

I agree entirely. A competent sequel trilogy could've had Thrawn as the villain, but given how they butchered the actual sequels I'm glad they didn't ruin him (I'm aware he's in Ahsoka, so maybe they've gotten around to that now).

 

[Harpo]

Why don't they do a Marvel/Star Wars Crossover film ?

Because it went so well in the comics

But also, Stan says:

Report- Stan Lee Believes that a Star Wars & Avengers Crossover Could Happen - Everything Geek Podcast

The legendary Stan Lee has always had quite an imagination, creating iconic characters like Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. However, his latest statement might be a bit too high on the imaginary scale. Lee has stated that he believes a Star Wars and Avengers...

website.everythinggeekpodcast.com

 

[BAYLOR]

Because it went so well in the comics

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But also, Stan says:

Report- Stan Lee Believes that a Star Wars & Avengers Crossover Could Happen - Everything Geek Podcast

The legendary Stan Lee has always had quite an imagination, creating iconic characters like Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. However, his latest statement might be a bit too high on the imaginary scale. Lee has stated that he believes a Star Wars and Avengers...

website.everythinggeekpodcast.com

They did do sushi a comic ?

 

[Harpo]

Nah, Team Up #69 is a Spider-Man issue, as most of them are.
I think somebody made up that cover.

All the Team Ups are listed here

Marvel Team-Up - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[BAYLOR]

Nah, Team Up #69 is a Spider-Man issue, as most of them are.
I think somebody made up that cover.

All the Team Ups are listed here

Marvel Team-Up - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A pity, I would have loved to have seen Dr Doom fight it out with Lord Vader.

 

[Harpo]

A pity, I would have loved to have seen Dr Doom fight it out with Lord Vader.

You’ll have to make do with fandom stuff such as this

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