7.09: Fear the Walking Dead - Follow Me

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Alicia takes refuge in the home of a mysterious stranger. With her fevers growing worse and Arnold pursuing her at every turn, Alicia is forced to confront the failings of her past and how she will face her future.
 

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The best feature of this episode was the swansong bagpipe rendition of "Ode to Joy". Many might consider Arlo to be a hero for putting an end to that. ;)
If the entire point here was to establish leadership status for Alicia, this was a tedious failure. She realizes that her dream to follow a talkative walker to PADRE was a mistake, but now plans to follow a dream telling her to follow herself? Yikes!
How are the showrunners dreaming up these plot ideas? Why not just shoot the show in the head to put it down and make sure that it doesn't come back?
 

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How are the showrunners dreaming up these plot ideas? Why not just shoot the show in the head to put it down and make sure that it doesn't come back?
I don't honestly know. I was prepared to lambast their dream sequences again, before I realised that she's really suffering from the PTSD influenced nightmares. I didn't know what to write either as a brief, because I honestly weren't looking for the series getting back in the small screen.

Yet, here we are, wondering what AMC is really doing with the series that's not scoring big numbers or even having a big following. In places it's no better than anything that has come out from SyFy channel. Fear has gone from A series to B and all the way down to C in some cases, and yet, it gets A class treatment, because of its relationship with the mother series.

Nevertheless, the series has history and it has big name characters, who know how to act and direct. And it has its moments, like for example this one

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Record player arm through the eye socket. Pure brilliance, but the scene fell down the moment it was revealed that a deaf player had a busted door. It is a tragedy to live in the quiet world, not being able to hear the vast silence and the growls of the zombies.

Alicia was right to be crossed with him, when all he was doing was super dangerous. Including wanting to have an electronic music player to drown out late wife's nagging voice from his thoughts.

For a moment I thought that he was Victor Strand, because the guy can seriously act. He was more believable in his role than Alicia or her ex masked guys. It says something about the production values, when the guest stars are more in the role than the main characters. And then there are the probs

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The guy is carrying not only a modern m4 clone, but he's also wearing a Russian helmet. But most money has gone into the zombie masks, which are all brilliant. Top quality. So in one hand cheap props, made to look as if the Masked People know how to protect themselves from the Fallout. And in the other, extras with expensive makeup on them. All doing a cheap scene, that looked obvious from the beginning.

A thing that surprised me was the piano player with a revolver. He knew how to shoot accurately in close combat, but he failed to handle the weapon in a stress situation. That in itself was very clever acting, or actually showed the actual situation as it evolved. Meaning that it was an improvised situation.

Things that bothered me a great deal were baddies shampooed hair and Alicia's extra clean shirt, even after the fight that should have showed blood spatters.

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This is the scene where the bad turned very good and I loved watching them two interacting with each other. It just that clear shirt bothers me so much. The both were so believable, Alicia in her permanent fever and mother mode, and Paul with his desire to get rid of the late wife ghost. To be honest, it shame that it took them 25 minutes to get good and I felt pain in both of them.

I understood Alicia's dream, her mental state, her desire, her fears at the same time as I got the deaf guys suffering. Both of them have obsessions and in places it's same thing that Morgan went through with Mr Goodman and his pacifist training.

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The best feature of this episode was the swansong bagpipe rendition of "Ode to Joy". Many might consider Arlo to be a hero for putting an end to that.
Arlo put a hole through it and Paul couldn't really hear it go as he blasted away. I loved it as soon as he started playing the tunes, knowing very well that it was going to be his end. In the world, where the sounds are so important for the survival, he did the right thing by opting out and trying not to go with the Warrior Princess. He would have hated the sub.

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Another problematic scene, where Lenny James was more convincing by just standing around. Maybe the problem was in the writing that tried to clarify the situation by making Alicia to realise that she's on a quest that is a dream influenced.

Even Lenny looks there as if he's trying to judge on should he let Alicia go or not?

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Can you guess why this scene makes me giggle?
 
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The best feature of this episode was the swansong bagpipe rendition of "Ode to Joy". Many might consider Arlo to be a hero for putting an end to that. ;)
If the entire point here was to establish leadership status for Alicia, this was a tedious failure. She realizes that her dream to follow a talkative walker to PADRE was a mistake, but now plans to follow a dream telling her to follow herself? Yikes!
How are the showrunners dreaming up these plot ideas? Why not just shoot the show in the head to put it down and make sure that it doesn't come back?

The show has long since jumped the Walker .:D

Im surprise this show has lasted long as it has this kind of bad silly writing.:D
 

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Hey! It didn't occur to me, but maybe Arlo spared Paul and shot just the bagpipes to save his own ears. :LOL:

Coming soonn , Walking Dead Hooverville In this series, Big City lawyer Oliver Wendell Douglas and his wife Lisa leave the city to take up Farm life in the Zombie infested town of Hooverville .:D
 
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In the very beginning , The Walking Dead was a good show to watch . The problem is , it stayed air way to long . Fear The Walking Dead though it had some good episodes, is little more then pale imitation and its love even good at that. Walking Dead world Beyond , I watched one or two episodes and then gave up.

The Zombies have run their course.
 

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I disagree, the final season of TWD is brilliant, yes there has been some poor seasons but there has also been some true gems.

FTWD, this season lacks something but again it does have some excellent episodes. Not seen the latest episode yet, not on prime till Friday.

World Beyond, started slow and felt like it was aimed at the younger viewer but it got better and I for one would have liked a third season.

Every television series has highs and lows. For me if I lose the love then I stop watching, other viewers may still retain the love. I wouldn't dream of saying it should be taking of the air because I've lost interest.
 

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FTWD, this season lacks something but again it does have some excellent episodes.
I think it's the overall aim, or have a certain direction/destiny, like they have in TWD with everyone trying to survive in Rickland. To be honest I really miss Rick and it would amazing to see him trying to survive the nuked landscape.

The good thing is that they have nowhere else to go to make it worse.

Well , the Zombies did run in World War Z
I'd call them infected and it would make sense that they'd be faster while older rotters would be much, much slower like they were in the last scenes. But, we do have fast ones in the end of World Beyond, which I still haven't seen. So I don't know how fast they really are?
 

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Hmmm. I really had not been scrutinizing the series, as I did enjoy it, just not as much when it was not followed by the show about the show.

On the other hand, together, there are what? 20 seasons? Is there any question that TWD should be getting old by now? :giggle:
 

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I've watched this over the weekend, I sort of enjoyed it. Alicia was always in her mum's shadow and Nick's, her voice was always drowned out by them. Being locked in a room by a madman, told she would rebuild the world, whilst what was left was being nuked, no wonder she is a little unhinged.
The vision may be her's but very heavily influenced by Madison's views.
I liked Paul, would have liked him to last longer. Maybe @REBerg is right and it was the bagpipes that got taken out.

Alicia, going to find people to help take Strand's tower, Arlo also wants the tower and Alicia's head.
Things should get interesting.

When are we getting Madison back?

Now what if it's Strand she stumbles across first? She helps him defend the tower not realising that one of the antagonists is her daughter? Her fury with Strand when she finds out would be an episode worth watching.
 

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I thought we saw Madison die? I can't remember exactly now. Wasn't she surrounded by Walkers and burned to a cinder? Still if Glenn could survive in TWD! Maybe Travis also survived falling out if the helicopter too?

My biggest problem was that no one ate the tinned Haggis. Tinned Haggis seems quite popular anyway, but nevertheless, starving people would eat anything they could find. Also, are they saying that people left behind the tins of Haggis, but that they took away the tins of Creamed Possum, Pork Brains and Armadillo?

we do have fast ones in the end of World Beyond
We've discussed this somewhere before, how they seem to have got faster and faster as the whole franchise has gone on. Look back at the first season of TWD and they only shuffled. Give it a few more seasons and they'll be sprinting and leaping out of that bomb crater.
there are what? 20 seasons? Is there any question that TWD should be getting old by now?
The first few seasons were smaller, only 6 episodes in the first season. I think the problem with quality is the larger season length rather than number of seasons. They haven't got enough ideas to fill all the episodes rather than haven't got new ideas at all.

The show has long since jumped the Walker
I thought it was fine up until the launch of the missiles. That was the 'Jump the Shark' moment. To be honest, how do you top multiple nuclear warheads striking the south western USA, and then continue to write this story? That should really have been the end right there. Nuclear winter. Everyone dies. Earth goes back to nature.

The final season of TWD is brilliant
Yes, no shortage of ideas in that. Still fresh, but they also know that it is time to put it to bed.
 

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