Doctor Who (39) 13:01 The Flux (Part 1)

I had no idea about it, so thanks Mum for mentioning it after Sunday dinner ten minutes before it aired! Best bit: weeping angels. It was okay and better than a lot of the episodes from the previous two series. Mad but in a good way.
 
As someone with dyspraxia, I am going to miss Ryan a lot. In my forties I didn't know how good prime time representation would feel and it was done so well. It wasn't to educate, it wasn't a big deal, it was just who he was. It was also, sadly, why viewers had issues with Ryan. That was disheartening. Tosin Cole did a great job of making it a part of his character.
 
I can only hope that once all the episodes have aired, that it will all make a bit more sense. But I'm not hopeful.
Roll on the next season and the newish team.
 
Hey what a fantastic episode. There was everything in it and everything a "died in the wool" fan would want.

Obviously with J F throwing in the towel (no more Vagan trips for her) they needed to get every baddy there ever was in there, since they have limited script time for individual episodes devoted to them. Surprised the old D's weren't put in the curry: Maybe they do get an episode to themselves later. That, or I fell asleep when they beamed in.

Personally I thought the episode was first class. What more could anyone want than a cosmic disaster substance wiping out half the unknown universe (planets, suns, super massive black holes - presumably) only to be stopped by the zeflon coated spaceships of some backward race of guardian angels come doggies. Though one does wonder why they didn't do the Earth tortilla wrap thing and leave everyone to sleep peacefully in their beds. Of course in the morning (or lack thereof due to the sun having being consumed) the Earthlings can look forward to a long lingering death eking out an existence in survivalist's enclaves while the freeze takes hold. Even had they been whipped of in in the fancy spaceships where would they go. Presumably they'd have just wait it out for the next big bang.

Wait a minute though, we've seen episodes where Dr What was in story lines set millions of years in the future. How did that happen with the whole of the cosmos being wiped out of existence way back in C21.

Marvelous stuff. Full marks for the script.

Especially the old you "Oh of course, you haven't met me yet" Rover revival character. Come back C9 all is forgiven.

Then, to top it all we interject a comedian to add lightness and humour into the plot line. Nice touch rubbing Liverpool waterfronts' face into the mix to remind the world of it's downgrading by UNOWHO*.

I do think the script could have some minor improvements by having it written by someone able to string together a action with it's immediate consequences. You know, like when you throw a brick at a greenhouse (see where I'm going) the brick is likely to disintegrate.

But, I'm not prepared to join the thousands of gainsayers and point out the other minor criticisms of the show.

The hammer controlled switches, the laser from the blue light, or Whats resignation from the do no harm peace movement s/he has subscribed to since - in her case - year dot.

Dr What, the franchise that just keeps on milking.

Give me more or, give me dea... Space Patrol - a real science fiction show.

*Liverpool’s Three Graces must be blushing with shame about their shoddy treatment | Rowan Moore
 
I didn't dislike it, found it disjointed and hard to follow but that could be were my head's at.
I will need to watch it again. The dog species, loved them.
Didn't dislike Ryan or Graham but the three companions didn't really gel with me, to much focus on Graham reducing Ryan and Yaz to bit part players.
I said before give Jodie a decent script and she would shine as the doctor. This may be it.
 
My joy at having the Doctor's companions pared to one was short-lived.
I would have preferred Graham as the choice, but the new guy, Dan, seems to have a comparable personality. I know that the show has occasionally featured multiple companions, but I've always felt that the shared screen time has sacrificed character development and bonding with the Doctor.
Karvanista must be the love child of Chewbacca and Barf, blending Chewie's tech with Barf's personality. Sending 7 billion Lupari ships to rescue 7 billion Earthers was a hilarious, over-the-top link between humans and their best friends that I would expect to find nowhere but Doctor Who.
The Swarm, his sister and the Flux seem capable of keeping the Doctor busy for the six-episode series, as Jodie Whitaker begins her swan song as the 13th Doctor. I'm interested in learning the details of her previous unremembered relationship with this apparent long-term nemesis.
 
I'm going to hold off on saying too much until after the series finale, since it's all one big six parter so I'll just give a few random thoughts.

I like the drama between the Doctor and Yaz. I felt earlier series were too drama-lite and the Doctor was never challenged on anything the way previous Doctors have been, so Yaz calling her out on her secret keeping was nice to see.

The baddies all look fantastic - the shorter series obviously means each episode gets a bigger portion of the budget. I'm liking Swarm so far, I'm guessing he's someone The Doctor tangled with during her time working for the Time Lords pre Hartnell.

Not sure what to make of Dan so far. He seems likeable enough, but the scene where he thought the dog warrior who'd just chopped through his door with a laser axe was a trick or treater went on way too long to be funny and just made him look like the world's biggest muppet.

The episode also felt disjointed. Everything with Swarm and the mystery of Flux was well done, but the scenes with the Sontarans and the Weeping Angel didn't add to it and just felt like they were setting up for future events.
 
WELL THERE WAS A LOT OF SHOUTING !! And a lot of running around. Like other Chroners have said, very disjointed - hopefully it will work itself out (in a relatvely logical way). The beginning was a bit...well...dumb/silly. A bit too much playing for laughs.

It is better without Ryan and Graham though.

Will be interesting (I hope...) how they work in the fact that the universe is being destroyed even though there have been many episodes set in the future. And the Swarm looks interesting - though looking forward (again, I hope) to the explanation as to how the Doctor does not know/remember it.

And despite the SHOUTING !! found it difficult to hear a lot of the dialogue over the incidental music and sounds - so perhaps lost some explantion.

One request to Chroners...we watched a recording of the episode. Unfortunately, sometimes these recordings (particularly with HD broadcasts) are prone to stutter and jump a few seconds. Annnnd....this was one of those times. Apart from a couple of action scenes, the only part of real significance (perhaps) was when the Doctor and Yaz were standing outside the Tardis and the woman approached them, walking down the street. What we saw/heard was her saying something like "I didn't expect to see you now" and "I took the long way round" (similar to what the Capaldi doctor said in one episode). The next second Doctor and Yaz were back in the Tardis so we obviously missed something. She later got sent back in time by a weeping angel so something's going on there.

Does anyone remember the dialogue?

Will be tuning in next week to see if things are a little more coherent.
 
WELL THERE WAS A LOT OF SHOUTING !! And a lot of running around. Like other Chroners have said, very disjointed - hopefully it will work itself out (in a relatvely logical way). The beginning was a bit...well...dumb/silly. A bit too much playing for laughs.

It is better without Ryan and Graham though.

Will be interesting (I hope...) how they work in the fact that the universe is being destroyed even though there have been many episodes set in the future. And the Swarm looks interesting - though looking forward (again, I hope) to the explanation as to how the Doctor does not know/remember it.

And despite the SHOUTING !! found it difficult to hear a lot of the dialogue over the incidental music and sounds - so perhaps lost some explantion.

One request to Chroners...we watched a recording of the episode. Unfortunately, sometimes these recordings (particularly with HD broadcasts) are prone to stutter and jump a few seconds. Annnnd....this was one of those times. Apart from a couple of action scenes, the only part of real significance (perhaps) was when the Doctor and Yaz were standing outside the Tardis and the woman approached them, walking down the street. What we saw/heard was her saying something like "I didn't expect to see you now" and "I took the long way round" (similar to what the Capaldi doctor said in one episode). The next second Doctor and Yaz were back in the Tardis so we obviously missed something. She later got sent back in time by a weeping angel so something's going on there.

Does anyone remember the dialogue?

Will be tuning in next week to see if things are a little more coherent.
I can't remember the dialogue, but you didn't miss a great deal. The lady told the Doctor and Yaz that they didn't know her yet a-la River Song, and watched as they went into the TARDIS, then told herself she had to go home now. She went home, and got got by the Angel.
 
Ah. So more boring than I thought. Just "home". Could have sworn it was "take the long way round/home" - which was intriguing. Still brings up the question how she got there if she sent back in time. But like I said the dialogue jumped about.
 
The dialogue went:

Claire: Oh, my God! Doctor!
Yaz: Who's that?
The Doctor: I have no idea.
Claire: I didn't expect to see you here - not tonight.
The Doctor: Hi. Really sorry, we're in the middle of something quite important.
Yaz: Have we met?
Claire: Not yet, but we will. In the past - I think - if it's true. I'm Claire.
The Doctor: If what's true, Claire? You don't seem too sure about your past.
Claire: Oh, God, look at your faces. I know I sound like a loon. Don't let me distract you. I didn't even know you'd be here. I was just... ..taking the long way home... ..cos it's Halloween.
( Sonic whirs )
The Doctor: Lupari fleet is getting closer. We don't have any more time. Come on, Yaz.
Claire: It's OK. We'll see each other again.
Yaz: Look after yourself.

After Yaz and the Doctor go back into the Tardis Claire says to herself:

Claire: You've got to go home now, Claire.

You can tell from her face that she knows the Weeping Angel will be waiting for her.
 
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I had thought this was a one-off special episode. I hadn't realised that Jodie was staying for another whole season and I do like longer story arcs.
I didn't dislike it, found it disjointed and hard to follow
I can only hope that once all the episodes have aired, that it will all make a bit more sense.
I certainly hope so. I'm hoping for a full explanation of Claire, and all the other loose ends tied eventually. Who is the escaped convict and what exactly is the Flux?
My joy at having the Doctor's companions pared to one was short-lived.
Yaz was definitely better on her own. Maybe a single companion does work best??
dog like creatures assigned to individual humans.
Great idea - "man's best friend" - but as with everything in the Who Universe, why haven't we ever seen them before? The world has been about to be destroyed many times before and they never showed up. What happens when someone dies naturally? Do they get re-assigned? How come the Doctor hasn't heard of them when she has become the Earth's de facto guardian?
 
Great idea - "man's best friend" - but as with everything in the Who Universe, why haven't we ever seen them before? The world has been about to be destroyed many times before and they never showed up. What happens when someone dies naturally? Do they get re-assigned? How come the Doctor hasn't heard of them when she has become the Earth's de facto guardian?
I can get around The Doctor not knowing.
The Doctor is great and mighty by most standards but ultimately limited and the universe is a really big place and time is even bigger! :giggle:
They are bound to miss a few things. ;)
I don't mind when they throw in something new, I'd just like it to be interesting.
But man's best friend? Really? As an idea it was only marginally better than the spider down the plug hole episode many Xmases' ago.
The concept is too convenient.
It looks like they came up with the set piece they wanted and then wrote their way back to dogs as protectors.
And can we be done with the Weeping Angels?
I didn't get the bit the first time round. It doesn't look much better to me now.
 
The dialogue went:
Thanks Bagpuss (y). I did miss a lot! Now wondering whether (based on the bit about meeting in the past) whether "taking the long way home" was just her walking home a different way that night (because the Doctor had/will brought/bring her back in the Tardis) - rather than from the past (al la Capaldi).

Bloody annoying this poor playback on recordings - never happened on "regular" tv - only HD. Tends to happen when there's a lot of action going on the screen (so often lttle dialogue missed) - but not always (as in ths case).
 
I can get around The Doctor not knowing.
The Doctor is great and mighty by most standards but ultimately limited and the universe is a really big place and time is even bigger! :giggle:
They are bound to miss a few things. ;)
I don't mind when they throw in something new, I'd just like it to be interesting.
But man's best friend? Really? As an idea it was only marginally better than the spider down the plug hole episode many Xmases' ago.
The concept is too convenient.
It looks like they came up with the set piece they wanted and then wrote their way back to dogs as protectors.
And can we be done with the Weeping Angels?
I didn't get the bit the first time round. It doesn't look much better to me now.
I can accept the Doctor not knowing some species - as Adams said; space is big. Really big. But not in this case, for the reasons @Dave lists.
 
Thanks Bagpuss (y). I did miss a lot! Now wondering whether (based on the bit about meeting in the past) whether "taking the long way home" was just her walking home a different way that night (because the Doctor had/will brought/bring her back in the Tardis) - rather than from the past (al la Capaldi).

Bloody annoying this poor playback on recordings - never happened on "regular" tv - only HD. Tends to happen when there's a lot of action going on the screen (so often lttle dialogue missed) - but not always (as in ths case).
Is there a setting to reduce the streaming quality?
 

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