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Loki Season 2: The Timekeepers Are Back in New Trailer
Loki isn't done exploring the myth of The Timekeepers in some new footage from Season 2 of the Marvel Disney+ show.
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Youtube is not your friend. All you have is twitter clips, that you can find in the article.
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Season 2 begins in October, here’s a trailer
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Some new bits in another new trailer
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Loki Season 2 Challenges the Anti-Hero's Redemption Story in More Ways Than One
Loki is a multiversal epic that is the keystone in an even bigger multiversal epic, but it is also, more importantly, the story of one guy—Loki himself.
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The reason why I didn't post this yesterday was because I was super effing grumpy. Part of me still is, but I try to be neutral about it and not let it interfere.
So let's see what comes in this season beginning...
It might be hard to imagine that our beloved God of Mischief is the reason for the multiverse expansion that we saw getting bonkers in the MCU movies and in the What if...? animated series. Doctor Who had nothing to do with it. He was a victim of the play that Loki tried to stop by Sylvie got better of him. So the reason why we have the multiverse madness is in Loki variant that the MC couldn't handle.
So He Who remains died, and then the cycle began again because there was no Keeper in the Chateau at the End of Times. Therefore, He Who Remains became part of the TimeKeepers, because one part of Kang was responsible for creating it ... in their dimension.
Not to be confused with the one, where our story began, the Earth or the OG MCU. This one was different, just like we learned that the people in the dump. All the other version of Loki were variants from another dimensions. And that's why nobody could get him at the Time Keeper's Control Room because he was in the wrong space-time continuum.
I loved the crash and how Loki was completely clueless on what was happening. The new power he'd developed, but were not able to control, because he was now part of the Curse of Kang's.
In the OG universe B-17 told Mobious, "We tell people the truth about this place...." Even though she wasn't really sure about what is the truth. It was just something she had to get out of her chest, for ultimately being a deity ... of sorts.
Mobious was right to question about it, because honestly nobody know what is going on, the universe is splitting, opening up to all the infinite possibilities. It was astounding that since the Split Event, the OG's had already organized a head of the organization from two judges.
Loki however found himself being pulled in the one where Kang's were dominant. One where the RenSlayer was Kang's avatar as he found the information from the past. Something that Mobious and B-17 couldn't have, because they couldn't really understand how everything had happened, as they weren't part of the Sylvie's and Loki's event.
"The Sky is Falling," the guard called out Mobious in the warroom. "This changes everything!"
And yet nothing because the OG remains as the one where other dimensions are conversing into. It is the main timeline in the MCU. And only B-17 was able to understand that their agency had been committing to atrocities in order to keep everything nice and uniform.
Loki was the key that they couldn't turn, because he opened up everything. And it was him who really opened their eyes, when he destroyed the Mural in the war room. Then the General ordered trooper to fund Sylvie, because she had a hunch about the perpetrator.
Loki was absolutely honest about what happened and what they'd encountered at the End of Time. Kang, the Devil. One who held all the cards. All the Aces. The Full House in his pocket by keeping the OG's working on pruning the variants. The Key They Coudln't Turn.
He was also a redeemed man. And just like all the redeemed, he was also lost about everything. Why it was him, when he'd tried so very hard?
Mobious was concern for him. He didn't really want to hear all of the dealings, because it was still a bit too much to handle. So he took the God of Mischief to Repairs and Advancement. What a name
Although I think Repairs and Alterations would have suited it better.
"Loki, I want to introduce to you to..." Mobious gestured the guy.
The one shoved eagerly forward his open palm to shake the hand of a god. "I'm Ouroboros." The people called him "O.B," and that's what we are going to use. The magical part was that he'd been down there, in his office for not seeing Mobious for, "four hundred years,"
Nobody had been visiting him since. But that also confirms that the Devil held the Citadel for 400 years. And that between 2020's and 1620's, the time remained mostly solid in the MCU. The life is long in immortal standards, but at least everyone's chill about it. But OB was able to get that Loki was time-slipping. He just didn't know why, "because TVA is protected."
The interesting thing is that Loki jumped back to the past and not into another dimension, even though I think it's more possible than remaining in the same timeline. But he was able to relay information back through memories. And just because of it the techno wizard was able to construct a Temporal Aura Extractor. All Loki needed to do was to prune himself from all the timelines.
But it wasn't all. Because of TVA's brown outs, OB was able to figure out that the Time Loop at the Center of All Things were cocking up. Just because of all the branches of Kang's getting out there, warring each other across the Multiverse.
To save TVA OB ordered Loki to prune himself before Mobious would lose all of his skin. This is the way! Of course it didn't happen before Loki timeslipped again.
Oh, he is hurting. Soul, Body, Everything. To prune himself Loki will lose Sylvie. This was also filmed in a real powerstation. Don't know which one.
Tune in the Final Countdown, because this is Hero's March as it as explained, the pruning will happen, or the Time Loop will eat the suit and turn Mobious to a very old persona and then his skin will peel off.
What a brave agent. He remained out there for Loki to chance it. For Loki to find Sylvie in the past before he was pruned. Then at that moment it happened, Loki was pulled back into the reality. And he knew that Sylvie was in the OG, just not in the centre of things, where the General was sending in forces to give her a good old purging. From everything.
So let's see what comes in this season beginning...
It might be hard to imagine that our beloved God of Mischief is the reason for the multiverse expansion that we saw getting bonkers in the MCU movies and in the What if...? animated series. Doctor Who had nothing to do with it. He was a victim of the play that Loki tried to stop by Sylvie got better of him. So the reason why we have the multiverse madness is in Loki variant that the MC couldn't handle.
So He Who remains died, and then the cycle began again because there was no Keeper in the Chateau at the End of Times. Therefore, He Who Remains became part of the TimeKeepers, because one part of Kang was responsible for creating it ... in their dimension.
Not to be confused with the one, where our story began, the Earth or the OG MCU. This one was different, just like we learned that the people in the dump. All the other version of Loki were variants from another dimensions. And that's why nobody could get him at the Time Keeper's Control Room because he was in the wrong space-time continuum.
I loved the crash and how Loki was completely clueless on what was happening. The new power he'd developed, but were not able to control, because he was now part of the Curse of Kang's.
In the OG universe B-17 told Mobious, "We tell people the truth about this place...." Even though she wasn't really sure about what is the truth. It was just something she had to get out of her chest, for ultimately being a deity ... of sorts.
Mobious was right to question about it, because honestly nobody know what is going on, the universe is splitting, opening up to all the infinite possibilities. It was astounding that since the Split Event, the OG's had already organized a head of the organization from two judges.
Loki however found himself being pulled in the one where Kang's were dominant. One where the RenSlayer was Kang's avatar as he found the information from the past. Something that Mobious and B-17 couldn't have, because they couldn't really understand how everything had happened, as they weren't part of the Sylvie's and Loki's event.
"The Sky is Falling," the guard called out Mobious in the warroom. "This changes everything!"
And yet nothing because the OG remains as the one where other dimensions are conversing into. It is the main timeline in the MCU. And only B-17 was able to understand that their agency had been committing to atrocities in order to keep everything nice and uniform.
Loki was the key that they couldn't turn, because he opened up everything. And it was him who really opened their eyes, when he destroyed the Mural in the war room. Then the General ordered trooper to fund Sylvie, because she had a hunch about the perpetrator.
Loki was absolutely honest about what happened and what they'd encountered at the End of Time. Kang, the Devil. One who held all the cards. All the Aces. The Full House in his pocket by keeping the OG's working on pruning the variants. The Key They Coudln't Turn.
He was also a redeemed man. And just like all the redeemed, he was also lost about everything. Why it was him, when he'd tried so very hard?
Mobious was concern for him. He didn't really want to hear all of the dealings, because it was still a bit too much to handle. So he took the God of Mischief to Repairs and Advancement. What a name
Although I think Repairs and Alterations would have suited it better.
"Loki, I want to introduce to you to..." Mobious gestured the guy.
The one shoved eagerly forward his open palm to shake the hand of a god. "I'm Ouroboros." The people called him "O.B," and that's what we are going to use. The magical part was that he'd been down there, in his office for not seeing Mobious for, "four hundred years,"
Nobody had been visiting him since. But that also confirms that the Devil held the Citadel for 400 years. And that between 2020's and 1620's, the time remained mostly solid in the MCU. The life is long in immortal standards, but at least everyone's chill about it. But OB was able to get that Loki was time-slipping. He just didn't know why, "because TVA is protected."
The interesting thing is that Loki jumped back to the past and not into another dimension, even though I think it's more possible than remaining in the same timeline. But he was able to relay information back through memories. And just because of it the techno wizard was able to construct a Temporal Aura Extractor. All Loki needed to do was to prune himself from all the timelines.
But it wasn't all. Because of TVA's brown outs, OB was able to figure out that the Time Loop at the Center of All Things were cocking up. Just because of all the branches of Kang's getting out there, warring each other across the Multiverse.
To save TVA OB ordered Loki to prune himself before Mobious would lose all of his skin. This is the way! Of course it didn't happen before Loki timeslipped again.
Oh, he is hurting. Soul, Body, Everything. To prune himself Loki will lose Sylvie. This was also filmed in a real powerstation. Don't know which one.
Tune in the Final Countdown, because this is Hero's March as it as explained, the pruning will happen, or the Time Loop will eat the suit and turn Mobious to a very old persona and then his skin will peel off.
What a brave agent. He remained out there for Loki to chance it. For Loki to find Sylvie in the past before he was pruned. Then at that moment it happened, Loki was pulled back into the reality. And he knew that Sylvie was in the OG, just not in the centre of things, where the General was sending in forces to give her a good old purging. From everything.
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I leave this here as food for thought
It's hard words, but it's also true words. The whole MCU has gone down, almost flopped since the Blink event. And the most exciting thing has been Loki, who used to be a side-charter for Thor. I personally don't feel any excitement for female only MCU. The House of Mickey clearly has to rethink the whole saga, which I think they're doing because of the resent announcements of cancellations or post-bones shows.
The whole thing is a mess, a filthy one that as it was said, "has been butchered" beyond recognition. I honestly haven't written about a good Marvel show since DareDevil Season 3 was finished. Although Loki season 1 was good, I don't feel a great pull to watch the second one. Maybe because I'm cautiously expecting it to flop like the Secret Invasion and as it does, it'll probably eat my last will to write for the MCU shows.
It's hard words, but it's also true words. The whole MCU has gone down, almost flopped since the Blink event. And the most exciting thing has been Loki, who used to be a side-charter for Thor. I personally don't feel any excitement for female only MCU. The House of Mickey clearly has to rethink the whole saga, which I think they're doing because of the resent announcements of cancellations or post-bones shows.
The whole thing is a mess, a filthy one that as it was said, "has been butchered" beyond recognition. I honestly haven't written about a good Marvel show since DareDevil Season 3 was finished. Although Loki season 1 was good, I don't feel a great pull to watch the second one. Maybe because I'm cautiously expecting it to flop like the Secret Invasion and as it does, it'll probably eat my last will to write for the MCU shows.
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Like with the first episode I've mostly avoided spoilers and gossip, because part of me wants this show to succeed. But the pragmatist living inside me says no. We are already going down the path, where Sylvie replaces Loki and the old God of Mischief is lost to the history, even though it doesn't really make sense that she survived the over all pruning.
The only glimmer is that she was in the main timeline and not in the other dimensions, when the pruning happened. I hope that glimmer is because she wants to be with Loki and not replace him. Although I'm totally expecting that exact thing to happen. Will it? Let's see...
"Sylvie's not here," Loki said as soon as they'd arrived at the side walkway in the WestEnd. Mobious asked why and the answer he got back was a curious one, because Loki claimed, "It's not a warzone, not an apocalypse. It just doesn't feel right." And yet, there they were at swinging Soho searching for the Last Variant.
The only thing that was missing was the context of why they'd arrived at that particular time, if it didn't feel right and most certainly didn't fit the previous behaviour. Maybe the most curious thing was that they were there to catch a variant, a filmstar of horror movies getting an A-list fame, even though I cannot say that horror actors have ever been on high call during that time period.
When B-15 wrestled TemPad from a fallen agent(?) and the man started running, I wasn't sure for why they were chasing him? Had the House of Mickey cut away reason for the hunt and thought it would be better to start the episode from a short lead to an action scene instead of giving the audience a bit of clarity.
Loki's wrath wasn't explained at all as it was shown he were belting the agent with green magic bolts, and when he finally caught him, the agent used timeywimey thing to teleport elsewhere in the London, straight to the gang of Londoners dressed in a typical fashion. And yet, they were out there like a mop wanting to get X-5's blood.
Why?
Why the 'Apocalyptic Snake' is the most interesting thing in the show? To me it it is curious that they keep getting back to the repair guy, even though everyone used to ignore him in the past, and now he's the only holding the whole concept together. Literally, in fact, because he questioned the MC's handing him the McGuffin as he said, "Do you think this is a higher priority than preventing a Temporal meltdown?"
Nobody explained it, but it was happening and yet, OB was left to his own devices and the MC pair went upstairs to fix the TemPad on their own. Except they weren't able even though they'd been handed a manual. Maybe because neither Mobious nor Loki have any understanding on how to fix electronics in the first place.
The latter is a more obvious case, because he comes from a place of magic and is a master of magic and illusions. Yet, it was Loki who was fixing it, and was proven that he know nothing when the pair was told that the TemPad in questioned didn't block anything.
What had Brad done with it? By the way, the first time we heard Brad's name was third of the episode in, which isn't good because the name should have been dropped earlier. Then it was even more unbelievable that the prisoner in question tried to outrank the interrogators, because Brad told Loki that all he'd ever done had made it worse.
He spoke with such conviction that I started to believe he was one of the Kang's, for knowing so much. Brad even want to say, "Stop trying to be hero, Loki. You're a villain." Proving that Brad wasn't breaking, it was our MC getting angrier by the minute.
The Redeemed God of Mischief thanked Brad for the kind words and then on went to prove that the bad Loki hadn't gone anywhere. That side of him was still big part of him and just like all the other redeemed anti-heroes, it was still within his power to do awful things.
It wasn't until Mobious offered a carrot that Brad started to break, and then he told the analyst that Mobious wasn't even his real name. That broke the camel's back and Mobious punched the prisoner, instead of allowing Loki to be the bad man.
The act didn't lead anywhere other than to a cheesecake, and I had an hour nap in between the writings until mum's BD call woke me up. To be honest, they pushed the idea further that they'd done in the interrogation phase.
So while the pair went on for round 2, OB went to timeloom to fix it and found out that his access codes had been reworked. Who could have done that?
The MC pair however were prepared as this time they carted in an industrial hoover, and proceeded to connect it with the cell. Then Loki did the 'wicked thing' and escorted Mobious out, while he proceeded to do a Q and A with the prisoner.
"You are right, I've done some terrible, awful things," Loki said to Brad trapped in a TemCube(?).
Oh Brad you'll better believe the man when he's telling the truth. There's only two ways to get out, a) be honourable and tell the truth or b) be stubborn and die. For some reason he was willing to go to the edge before he spilled out that Sylvie's alive. So nothing new.
At the cellar OB told B-15 and Casey that they were all going to die, because he couldn't open the blast doors and go out there to fix things. All because He Who Remains is dead. And there was nothing he could do if they cannot convince Miss Minutes to come back to work.
Why is the Agency still tied to the rogue Ai?
Equally important question is why Sylvie wants to stay in 1985's MC'd as a cashier, because that's where Brad led Loki and then the man couldn't really open up his mouth. Then he opened up and asked, "Why did I see you in TVA's future?"
I thought it was the past where he saw the lady or did I miss something?
It never got explained as the events were captured by the general acting on her will on pruning the branches. It was all done so that there wouldn't be a spaghetti mess but instead just a few timelines.
The only glimmer is that she was in the main timeline and not in the other dimensions, when the pruning happened. I hope that glimmer is because she wants to be with Loki and not replace him. Although I'm totally expecting that exact thing to happen. Will it? Let's see...
"Sylvie's not here," Loki said as soon as they'd arrived at the side walkway in the WestEnd. Mobious asked why and the answer he got back was a curious one, because Loki claimed, "It's not a warzone, not an apocalypse. It just doesn't feel right." And yet, there they were at swinging Soho searching for the Last Variant.
The only thing that was missing was the context of why they'd arrived at that particular time, if it didn't feel right and most certainly didn't fit the previous behaviour. Maybe the most curious thing was that they were there to catch a variant, a filmstar of horror movies getting an A-list fame, even though I cannot say that horror actors have ever been on high call during that time period.
When B-15 wrestled TemPad from a fallen agent(?) and the man started running, I wasn't sure for why they were chasing him? Had the House of Mickey cut away reason for the hunt and thought it would be better to start the episode from a short lead to an action scene instead of giving the audience a bit of clarity.
Loki's wrath wasn't explained at all as it was shown he were belting the agent with green magic bolts, and when he finally caught him, the agent used timeywimey thing to teleport elsewhere in the London, straight to the gang of Londoners dressed in a typical fashion. And yet, they were out there like a mop wanting to get X-5's blood.
Why?
Why the 'Apocalyptic Snake' is the most interesting thing in the show? To me it it is curious that they keep getting back to the repair guy, even though everyone used to ignore him in the past, and now he's the only holding the whole concept together. Literally, in fact, because he questioned the MC's handing him the McGuffin as he said, "Do you think this is a higher priority than preventing a Temporal meltdown?"
Nobody explained it, but it was happening and yet, OB was left to his own devices and the MC pair went upstairs to fix the TemPad on their own. Except they weren't able even though they'd been handed a manual. Maybe because neither Mobious nor Loki have any understanding on how to fix electronics in the first place.
The latter is a more obvious case, because he comes from a place of magic and is a master of magic and illusions. Yet, it was Loki who was fixing it, and was proven that he know nothing when the pair was told that the TemPad in questioned didn't block anything.
What had Brad done with it? By the way, the first time we heard Brad's name was third of the episode in, which isn't good because the name should have been dropped earlier. Then it was even more unbelievable that the prisoner in question tried to outrank the interrogators, because Brad told Loki that all he'd ever done had made it worse.
He spoke with such conviction that I started to believe he was one of the Kang's, for knowing so much. Brad even want to say, "Stop trying to be hero, Loki. You're a villain." Proving that Brad wasn't breaking, it was our MC getting angrier by the minute.
The Redeemed God of Mischief thanked Brad for the kind words and then on went to prove that the bad Loki hadn't gone anywhere. That side of him was still big part of him and just like all the other redeemed anti-heroes, it was still within his power to do awful things.
It wasn't until Mobious offered a carrot that Brad started to break, and then he told the analyst that Mobious wasn't even his real name. That broke the camel's back and Mobious punched the prisoner, instead of allowing Loki to be the bad man.
The act didn't lead anywhere other than to a cheesecake, and I had an hour nap in between the writings until mum's BD call woke me up. To be honest, they pushed the idea further that they'd done in the interrogation phase.
So while the pair went on for round 2, OB went to timeloom to fix it and found out that his access codes had been reworked. Who could have done that?
The MC pair however were prepared as this time they carted in an industrial hoover, and proceeded to connect it with the cell. Then Loki did the 'wicked thing' and escorted Mobious out, while he proceeded to do a Q and A with the prisoner.
"You are right, I've done some terrible, awful things," Loki said to Brad trapped in a TemCube(?).
Oh Brad you'll better believe the man when he's telling the truth. There's only two ways to get out, a) be honourable and tell the truth or b) be stubborn and die. For some reason he was willing to go to the edge before he spilled out that Sylvie's alive. So nothing new.
At the cellar OB told B-15 and Casey that they were all going to die, because he couldn't open the blast doors and go out there to fix things. All because He Who Remains is dead. And there was nothing he could do if they cannot convince Miss Minutes to come back to work.
Why is the Agency still tied to the rogue Ai?
Equally important question is why Sylvie wants to stay in 1985's MC'd as a cashier, because that's where Brad led Loki and then the man couldn't really open up his mouth. Then he opened up and asked, "Why did I see you in TVA's future?"
I thought it was the past where he saw the lady or did I miss something?
It never got explained as the events were captured by the general acting on her will on pruning the branches. It was all done so that there wouldn't be a spaghetti mess but instead just a few timelines.
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I've just started watching the first season of this. It's surprisingly very good! Does my surprise explain why we only have one thread with only two pages of posts (and some of those for season 2)?
My surprise is mainly because Loki was meant as just a foil for Thor. Rather than having armies of superheros with small cameos, this shows what can be achieved by taking just one character and some good writing.
My surprise is mainly because Loki was meant as just a foil for Thor. Rather than having armies of superheros with small cameos, this shows what can be achieved by taking just one character and some good writing.
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I had to be sure I was in the right mindset to write this. Just because recently it has bugged me majorly of how much the House of Mickey has done to ruin perfectly good lore. Loki, as we established already in the last season is a side character, even though he's an MC and everyone knows he's been a bad boy.
Except in this series he isn't actually malevolent, nor does he seem to be enjoying the plots of ruination. Maybe he is a Redeemed God since the All Father died. It is also kind of strange that he doesn't seek help from the other realms. One could assume that's because he's messed up with timey-wimey stuff, and he's not a proper Traveller. Just a tourist. A tourist with a toolbox to fix things, except the whole case is missing.
And in this episode, Loki is diving into the past to seek Miss Minutes. Maybe this is a good TT. We'll see...
The title bugged me, but I couldn't place my finger on why until I saw the opening shot you'll see above. To be honest, I should have guessed it was going to be the Nexus event for the North American TimeTravellers. Their most time and place, because it has roots for so many fabulous adventures ... if you are a Traveller. Honestly, a person could hide in that mass and be completely ignored observer, except it never happens in the story related TT's.
The scariest thing about that time and location, is the Chicago's Ripper, who happened to have a murderhouse masquerading as a flop house. People went there, but never got out. Do you think that TT's have a knowledge of him? I don't think so because the Agency never briefs on their Temporal Travellers.
Renslayer most certainly wasn't told anything. Just given coordinates that took her to a back alley and a barn, where a floating, glowing, speaking clock was waiting. "What took you so long?"
I'm starting to think Ms Minutes is the true malevolent spirit, because she knows everything and she chooses to do nothing. In fact, she's hiding in time. Just not in the wisest spot, because she most certainly would have lived more freely in the neon lights of Tokyo City. At present day and nobody would have seen a thing.
Her mission to the Renslayer, to deliver a package ... to one of the Kang's. Because that was the last will of He who Remains. And all Renslayer would get in return would be the power. The most intriguing detail was that the receiver was a boy, and the package contained the TVA handbook.
Back in the TVA, the problem with the Loom was expanding because it couldn't handle all of the expanded universe. All those good stories that appeared on the comic books pages, capturing imaginations of countless teens and YA's. They had to be pruned out and while the rest remained in the exec hands.
I was doing a facepalm, when Möbius voiced the problem, "How are we going to find a cartoon clock hiding in time?" The answer was Renslayer, who happened to have left a trace. So it wasn't long after the boys tracked down the spacetime location, and they appeared in the windy city.
Why the portal cannot be Cameron's balls of lightning? I also hated that they'd hit the wardrobe department before the jump to look right for the time period. Except all of their clothes are shiny and not mended. They might even smell nice, while the normal people look much scruffier. Not that it's a problem, but Möbius went to claim that they'd appeared in the right spot, where the TemPad hit had generated.
Except it wasn't the same muddy alley. Or year. So they went fast-forward in time and arrived in the right place, the fair. How could I have guessed it so easily?
Tracking the b*stard clock turned out to be even easier than I assumed, as Möbius just finished saying "breadcrumbs," when one appeared on the front page of Daily Chicago Press. This time as an article about a ghost clock. Sure, it reads like a fairy tale, but with a drawn evidence of her appearance, the 'detective' pair had their first clue. And it was leading them Midtown.
Nom, nom, nom. Popcorn in hand, they didn't leave the fair. Instead, they ended up to the Temple of Nordic Gods. Loki wasn't happy about their generalized views of Loki, Thor and Balder, while Möbius was amazed that Loki was "considered as one of them." Right opposite to the temple stood a placard, inviting people to come see: "Astounding Wonders of Temporal Marvels."
It was as if they'd been fed hints instead of playing the mystery game. But was it done by Victor Timely who happened to be the showman in the event, where the detectives were led into?
I liked that Kang's Variant tried to explain the baffled audience plausible science behind the Loom. He didn't use numbers but instead simple words to explain the method for gaining power. All by trumping over Edison's Event and using the zero-field to explain the method. Except he didn't explain the tapping and how it exactly works. But what he told the audience was straight out of Tesla's work, "To power the whole planet."
And he proved it by powering his machine and causing not only a blowout, but also a spectacular light show. While the audience was amazed, Möbius wanted to catch the variant, while Loki wasn't so sure about the idea.
The fact is that because of the show, the detectives didn't use the opportunity to catch Renslayer and Ms Minutes. Instead, it gave them a new goal, to catch the variant so that Victor Timely could possibly fix the real thing. Then the inventor went and sold the contraption for "One Thousand Dollars," and I facepalmed.
Although you might have guessed why it went for such a low sum, even for late 1800's, is that Victor knew it was a burned out piece of junk that most couldn't fix. In a plain English, Victor's contraption is a device that doesn't belong in the sacred timeline. At that time. I expected Mobious to make bidding. He didn't.
Maybe he also knew that his TemPad would have sang if the wreck would cause harm. So they were free to chase the Inventor and their Mark outside the pub. Mostly freely, even after Loki produced a magic trick.
I guess people are really that easy. Except it was saved when Victor Timely was caught up by a Councilman, with broken mechanical trousers. "A prototype," Kang tried to explain. And again it provided an excellent opportunity for the 'detectives' to catch all of their marks in one go. It didn't happened because the owner of the broken Loom finally figured out that he'd been conned.
What followed was another palm meeting the face moment as a comedy chase happened in the heart of the fair. Luckily it as saved by Sylvie appearing to slay the Variant.
"You've done enough," Sylvie shouted. "Get out of my face and let me do my job."
Loki couldn't allow that to happen. Instead, he ended again defending Kang. Almost as if it is his job to cock-up the real tasks and consequently allow the mix of multiple timelines and worlds together. Hence, we have the Curse of the Multiverse Madness gripping the MCU.
Outside the fight, Mobious had a talk with Renslayer, trying to inquire about what she's up to. But the woman refused, because they weren't partners any more. Why the agent didn't cuff her there and then? I don't know. Inside the Big wheel, Sylvie told Loki to not trust any Kang Variants. She even showed the evidence of TVA's handbook to the man. Still, the God of Mischief acted like one and prevent Sylvie from slaying the mark.
It all ended with Loki and Kang exploding out from the Ferris Wheel, landing straight to the feet of Renslayer and Möbius. And then Renslayer used the opportunity to cause panic by releasing Miss Minutes to the public. It worked on Renslayer favour, as she was able to escape with Kang's Variant to his hut and explain to the man of what he'll become if he accepts her as guardian and Miss Minutes as councillor.
A nexus moment that could have been avoided, but it never happened. And although they'd an able opportunity to jump in spacetime, they didn't because Kang couldn't leave his latest invention sitting in his lap. So they got into a lake ferry and went over to Wisconsin. Along the way Kang figured out who delivered the Handbook, and he showed Renslayer the invention, the Throughput Multiplier.
All looked romantic and good, until Renslayer fell in sleep and woke up in the lake after Miss Minutes betrayal. In the lab, the Ai took in turn on playing the manipulation game, as she revealed her true colours and told Kang that she'd been a simple algo for playing a chess. Over the time the Great Kang evolved her to become one capable of handling Temporal Events. What she wanted was Kang to make her a body. A real thing instead of an avatar.
It scared the inventor, and he was lucky to be able to lock the Ai before Renslayer appeared with her demands, and then the boys tracked down the location. The situation ended in a Mexican stand-off. Then Sylvie arrived, sweeping the floor with all of them. She even got her sword on neck of Victor Timely, but couldn't slay the man, because she believed in his innocence.
Sylvie allowed the boys to escape back to TVA, while she had words with Renslayer, before she literally kicked her at the End of Time. There, Miss Minutes appeared again, telling Renslayer that she knew a secret that would make her "very angry."
Is it going to have consequences?
Except in this series he isn't actually malevolent, nor does he seem to be enjoying the plots of ruination. Maybe he is a Redeemed God since the All Father died. It is also kind of strange that he doesn't seek help from the other realms. One could assume that's because he's messed up with timey-wimey stuff, and he's not a proper Traveller. Just a tourist. A tourist with a toolbox to fix things, except the whole case is missing.
And in this episode, Loki is diving into the past to seek Miss Minutes. Maybe this is a good TT. We'll see...
The title bugged me, but I couldn't place my finger on why until I saw the opening shot you'll see above. To be honest, I should have guessed it was going to be the Nexus event for the North American TimeTravellers. Their most time and place, because it has roots for so many fabulous adventures ... if you are a Traveller. Honestly, a person could hide in that mass and be completely ignored observer, except it never happens in the story related TT's.
The scariest thing about that time and location, is the Chicago's Ripper, who happened to have a murderhouse masquerading as a flop house. People went there, but never got out. Do you think that TT's have a knowledge of him? I don't think so because the Agency never briefs on their Temporal Travellers.
Renslayer most certainly wasn't told anything. Just given coordinates that took her to a back alley and a barn, where a floating, glowing, speaking clock was waiting. "What took you so long?"
I'm starting to think Ms Minutes is the true malevolent spirit, because she knows everything and she chooses to do nothing. In fact, she's hiding in time. Just not in the wisest spot, because she most certainly would have lived more freely in the neon lights of Tokyo City. At present day and nobody would have seen a thing.
Her mission to the Renslayer, to deliver a package ... to one of the Kang's. Because that was the last will of He who Remains. And all Renslayer would get in return would be the power. The most intriguing detail was that the receiver was a boy, and the package contained the TVA handbook.
Back in the TVA, the problem with the Loom was expanding because it couldn't handle all of the expanded universe. All those good stories that appeared on the comic books pages, capturing imaginations of countless teens and YA's. They had to be pruned out and while the rest remained in the exec hands.
I was doing a facepalm, when Möbius voiced the problem, "How are we going to find a cartoon clock hiding in time?" The answer was Renslayer, who happened to have left a trace. So it wasn't long after the boys tracked down the spacetime location, and they appeared in the windy city.
Why the portal cannot be Cameron's balls of lightning? I also hated that they'd hit the wardrobe department before the jump to look right for the time period. Except all of their clothes are shiny and not mended. They might even smell nice, while the normal people look much scruffier. Not that it's a problem, but Möbius went to claim that they'd appeared in the right spot, where the TemPad hit had generated.
Except it wasn't the same muddy alley. Or year. So they went fast-forward in time and arrived in the right place, the fair. How could I have guessed it so easily?
Tracking the b*stard clock turned out to be even easier than I assumed, as Möbius just finished saying "breadcrumbs," when one appeared on the front page of Daily Chicago Press. This time as an article about a ghost clock. Sure, it reads like a fairy tale, but with a drawn evidence of her appearance, the 'detective' pair had their first clue. And it was leading them Midtown.
Nom, nom, nom. Popcorn in hand, they didn't leave the fair. Instead, they ended up to the Temple of Nordic Gods. Loki wasn't happy about their generalized views of Loki, Thor and Balder, while Möbius was amazed that Loki was "considered as one of them." Right opposite to the temple stood a placard, inviting people to come see: "Astounding Wonders of Temporal Marvels."
It was as if they'd been fed hints instead of playing the mystery game. But was it done by Victor Timely who happened to be the showman in the event, where the detectives were led into?
I liked that Kang's Variant tried to explain the baffled audience plausible science behind the Loom. He didn't use numbers but instead simple words to explain the method for gaining power. All by trumping over Edison's Event and using the zero-field to explain the method. Except he didn't explain the tapping and how it exactly works. But what he told the audience was straight out of Tesla's work, "To power the whole planet."
And he proved it by powering his machine and causing not only a blowout, but also a spectacular light show. While the audience was amazed, Möbius wanted to catch the variant, while Loki wasn't so sure about the idea.
The fact is that because of the show, the detectives didn't use the opportunity to catch Renslayer and Ms Minutes. Instead, it gave them a new goal, to catch the variant so that Victor Timely could possibly fix the real thing. Then the inventor went and sold the contraption for "One Thousand Dollars," and I facepalmed.
Although you might have guessed why it went for such a low sum, even for late 1800's, is that Victor knew it was a burned out piece of junk that most couldn't fix. In a plain English, Victor's contraption is a device that doesn't belong in the sacred timeline. At that time. I expected Mobious to make bidding. He didn't.
Maybe he also knew that his TemPad would have sang if the wreck would cause harm. So they were free to chase the Inventor and their Mark outside the pub. Mostly freely, even after Loki produced a magic trick.
I guess people are really that easy. Except it was saved when Victor Timely was caught up by a Councilman, with broken mechanical trousers. "A prototype," Kang tried to explain. And again it provided an excellent opportunity for the 'detectives' to catch all of their marks in one go. It didn't happened because the owner of the broken Loom finally figured out that he'd been conned.
What followed was another palm meeting the face moment as a comedy chase happened in the heart of the fair. Luckily it as saved by Sylvie appearing to slay the Variant.
"You've done enough," Sylvie shouted. "Get out of my face and let me do my job."
Loki couldn't allow that to happen. Instead, he ended again defending Kang. Almost as if it is his job to cock-up the real tasks and consequently allow the mix of multiple timelines and worlds together. Hence, we have the Curse of the Multiverse Madness gripping the MCU.
Outside the fight, Mobious had a talk with Renslayer, trying to inquire about what she's up to. But the woman refused, because they weren't partners any more. Why the agent didn't cuff her there and then? I don't know. Inside the Big wheel, Sylvie told Loki to not trust any Kang Variants. She even showed the evidence of TVA's handbook to the man. Still, the God of Mischief acted like one and prevent Sylvie from slaying the mark.
It all ended with Loki and Kang exploding out from the Ferris Wheel, landing straight to the feet of Renslayer and Möbius. And then Renslayer used the opportunity to cause panic by releasing Miss Minutes to the public. It worked on Renslayer favour, as she was able to escape with Kang's Variant to his hut and explain to the man of what he'll become if he accepts her as guardian and Miss Minutes as councillor.
A nexus moment that could have been avoided, but it never happened. And although they'd an able opportunity to jump in spacetime, they didn't because Kang couldn't leave his latest invention sitting in his lap. So they got into a lake ferry and went over to Wisconsin. Along the way Kang figured out who delivered the Handbook, and he showed Renslayer the invention, the Throughput Multiplier.
All looked romantic and good, until Renslayer fell in sleep and woke up in the lake after Miss Minutes betrayal. In the lab, the Ai took in turn on playing the manipulation game, as she revealed her true colours and told Kang that she'd been a simple algo for playing a chess. Over the time the Great Kang evolved her to become one capable of handling Temporal Events. What she wanted was Kang to make her a body. A real thing instead of an avatar.
It scared the inventor, and he was lucky to be able to lock the Ai before Renslayer appeared with her demands, and then the boys tracked down the location. The situation ended in a Mexican stand-off. Then Sylvie arrived, sweeping the floor with all of them. She even got her sword on neck of Victor Timely, but couldn't slay the man, because she believed in his innocence.
Sylvie allowed the boys to escape back to TVA, while she had words with Renslayer, before she literally kicked her at the End of Time. There, Miss Minutes appeared again, telling Renslayer that she knew a secret that would make her "very angry."
Is it going to have consequences?
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Even though the author blames SF writers on applying the Many World theory as the multiverse theory, it is probably the most complex one to understand, opposite to a mirror or parallel world. The boffins don't have evidence to pack up. Only theories and mathematical proofs. Most probably because we don't have technology to prove it.
The Many Worlds as seen in the MCU is kind of broken because the possibilities are endless, just like the actual time is finite. We'd like to think that there's an end, but if you do the Many Worlds, there's always going to be a timeline that continues. Even if one ends. The way science looks at things is that in theory the multiverse is possible, because 13.7 billion years ago "big bang" happened and then the 'universe' started expanding quite rabidly. They call this as the Inflation Theory.
It suggests that because of this expansion, some other timeline might also be possible, and therefore ours might not even be the mainline, but a branch from something else. What? We don't know. Thing is, even though we have evidence from the 'Big Bang' event, the scientists are trying to look others in that Event. Others meaning the other 'bubbles' or 'timelines.' They call these as Hawking Points. And they have evidence, meaning that they've found in recent years unexplainable massive circular formations in the afterglow. Almost as if something is tapping into it long, long time ago.
As always, the boffins cannot be in a total agreement. But they might have a method by applying the old trusted extremely cold environments to tap into the quantum realm and observe atoms reach the Einstein-Bosen condensates, where the atoms behave like particle and collate together to form a disk. A quantum one.
So in theory it might be a possible to tap and transfer into other universe or how they interact. But at the moment everything is in the air and extremely hypothetical. In terms of writing multiverse stories, we should be very careful on how things are done, because dimensional stuff isn't really timetravel stories. The Fringe went very far and did very well on explaining the kind of multiverse that MCU should have started with when they brought the stuff out.
You could even say that's what Sylvie was talking about in the last episode, when she claimed it was her mission. Maybe it is again a hint of a character talking back to the writer through the fourth wall. What happened with all the splintering shouldn't have happened. But it did and now there's almost no other way of to understand the Multiverse Madness than to accept that there's no way out of it. MCU writers therefore should adapt to writing new variants of the old characters, or to bring the actual ones on the limelight.
The problem with the second season is that it feels so disjoined from rest of the MCU. And once again the audience doesn't have tangible clue about where things are heading and what they should be rooting for. All we have are the massive McGuffins that are frankly quite hard to understand or even care about.
That's all I want to say at this point.
Having now watched Season one and been slightly disappointed, I'm not surprised about this muddle in Season two. Season one was a very long journey with an ending that really didn't justify it i.e. that train journey became totally pointless. It would have been much better to have had Loki join the TWA and to work with Mobius to do 'mission of the week'; correcting variant timelines, rather than the epic, 'cause utter chaos and bring down the TWA' storyline that they ran with. Where can you possibly go on from there except to do more of the same, or to backtrack? I also thought the 'in love with a version of yourself' story was weak, and I wondered why was the end of time was only populated with Loki variants when it was already established earlier that all Timekeepers are also variants? Personally, Michael Moorcock does the end of time much better!
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The reference is lost to me. Care to enlighten us ignorant baboons?
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But just how sentient has Miss Minutes truly become? In an interview with Marvel.com, Loki executive producer Kevin Wright talked about her relationship with He Who Remains, saying “Is her programming [written] to make that loyalty for him? Or, as she says, she was given the free will to write her own programming? Is this a naturally growing kind of emotion that she’s having? I just think that’s a cool space creatively to sit in. And of course, when she’s rejected, she’ll go off the rails. That’s fun, too, because she’s vindictive.”
And he’s right about Miss Minutes being vindictive. After Timely rejects her romantic advances as He Who Remains did, Miss Minutes turns on him and offers to tell Ravonna a secret about her past with him that will make her “real angry.” As much as she longs to feel the connection she once felt with He Who Remains, she also appears to be learning and developing motivations beyond her original coding and purpose. Her loyalty to He Who Remains seems to have been shaken by her own desires and needs.
Miss Minutes being horny for Kang variants was not on my Loki season 2 bingo card, but watching a sentient cartoon clock gain consciousness and decide to take revenge on a scorned lover will surely prove to be an interesting dynamic. If Miss Minutes tells Ravonna about her past relationship with He Who Remains and she also feels betrayed by how he once treated and likely discarded her, then we could see the two begrudgingly team up and try to take the TVA for themselves to spite him. With Ravonna and Miss Minutes currently stuck at the End of Time, they’ll have plenty of time to reconcile their differences and conspire to undo the plan they just set into motion.
And he’s right about Miss Minutes being vindictive. After Timely rejects her romantic advances as He Who Remains did, Miss Minutes turns on him and offers to tell Ravonna a secret about her past with him that will make her “real angry.” As much as she longs to feel the connection she once felt with He Who Remains, she also appears to be learning and developing motivations beyond her original coding and purpose. Her loyalty to He Who Remains seems to have been shaken by her own desires and needs.
Miss Minutes being horny for Kang variants was not on my Loki season 2 bingo card, but watching a sentient cartoon clock gain consciousness and decide to take revenge on a scorned lover will surely prove to be an interesting dynamic. If Miss Minutes tells Ravonna about her past relationship with He Who Remains and she also feels betrayed by how he once treated and likely discarded her, then we could see the two begrudgingly team up and try to take the TVA for themselves to spite him. With Ravonna and Miss Minutes currently stuck at the End of Time, they’ll have plenty of time to reconcile their differences and conspire to undo the plan they just set into motion.
It just seemed appropriate as it is a place where "where entropy is king and the universe has begun collapsing upon itself" but it is also where bizarre and jaded individuals congregate, many taken out of their own times and crossed-over from his different series’s of books. The alternate versions of Loki were not as clever or as bizarre, and He Who Remains was not as jaded.
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