A new villain about to surface on Fear the Walking Dead brings "a lot of twists and turns and surprise" in Season 6, teases series newcomer John Glover. The Smallville alum joins the Walking Dead spin-off as Teddy, the founder of The Holding: a self-sufficient underground community where followers believe "the end is the beginning." The spray-painted message, a cryptic creed that haunted Ginny (Colby Minifie) to her grave, is the calling sign of the existential threat now facing Morgan Jones (Lennie James) and his group of zombie apocalypse survivors. In "The Holding," premiering Sunday on AMC, Alicia Clark (Alycia Debnam-Carey) digs deep into the subterranean society where "life will begin again."
"I have a four-episode arc. I'm sworn to secrecy, I can't talk about it," Glover told his Smallville son Michael Rosenbaum on the actor's Inside of You podcast. "I got the job before [the pandemic] happened. So David Letterman, my agent, called and said, 'They're still probably gonna do it, but we've got to find out when it's gonna be safe enough.' They started up again in October, so I was [in Austin, Texas] from March 15 to October something or other. I finished [filming] a couple of weeks ago."
AMC Networks paused production on the Texas-based Fear in March 2020 and resumed later that year, wrapping filming on the nine-episode Season 6B this past March.
"It was fun," Glover said. "They were very generous and so welcoming and really wonderful people. They made me feel happy to be there."
When Althea and Wes (Colby Hollman) dig into the underground community in "The Holding," they find maps watermarked with the CRM's three-ring logo. In "Alaska," Althea and Dwight (Austin Amelio) tried to rendezvous with Isabelle — nicknamed "Beer Lady" — on the roof of an office building/CRM drop site they found crawling with plague-carrying rats and graffitied with a spray-painted message: "The end is the beginning."
"The Holding" ends with Althea setting off to find and warn Isabelle about Teddy's people targeting the CRM drop sites — as she tells Dwight, "If they hit a chopper, they could take out a lot of people."
"It definitely is something that caught Al's attention and kind of recontextualized the episode where she was in the tower and she thought the rats that had the plague were just there by happenstance, or that Teddy was targeting the people who lived in the tower. But now she's realizing that he actually had larger plans and he was targeting these people in the helicopter," co-showrunner Andrew Chambliss told EW. "Now he might not know who the CRM is, but when you see people in helicopters, you know that you can probably exact some destruction on them."
"And I think on a more personal level, what it does for Al is it makes her realize that she's got to act, she can't kind of wait and see what happens. She can't sit by and accept that something could happen to Isabelle," Chambliss added. "So that's why at the end of the episode she kind of makes that decision to go off and warn her, even though she knows trying to make contact with someone from the CRM could result in her own death. So it really speaks to kind of the way her feelings for Isabelle are sticking with her, even after all this time."
Do they actually think that they have the muscle to eradicate the Civic Republic?
Why, when this industriously recycling cult is about to seal itself underground from the rest of the world, is it so intent on killing off the other survivors on the surface?
Reminiscent of the human mutants in the Forbidden City in Beneath the Planet of the Apes worshipping the Alpha and Omega "doomsday bomb"! I've also just read The Stand with Trashcan Man and his doomsday weapon. In fact, it is a staple of much 1950's-1980's SF isn't it?How are they going to do it? Nukes?
According to the After FTWD show it was an underground car park and not a nuclear shelter, but it doesn't really make much difference. Except it would be harder for them to plumb in water and wire up electricity, so they must have done a lot of work to the place to get it where it was.we have never seen them actually utilising any of those shelters governments most likely also built in their world.
I thought it had gone up completely and Alicia with it. However, when Teddy said their work was destroyed, it must have taken out all those raised beds of vegetables, and all that plumbing and wiring that I just mentioned, and a lot more. That will not be replaced very easily or quickly, and it is a severe setback to their plans. Also, if you have ever been in a fire and (fact you won't know about me #1) I have, the smell and blackening from the smoke doesn't easily or quickly go away. I think they would be better off leaving and finding some other underground hideout.I briefly wondered if the whole underground colony had been destroyed when Alicia fired things up.
Teddy was being a little disingenuous. He tried to kill her when she was on the surface. Then again before she set off the fire. He just, this very second, had someone try to embalm her, but he says that he means her no harm! Her characterisation of Teddy as "king of the crazies" is correct. He cannot be reasoned with logic because he isn't thinking logically. He will say one thing, one moment, then another thing in another moment. He may seem lucid and he uses long words, but he is still off his trolley!I don't know why Teddy wants her. Is his colony short of breeding stock?
Reminiscent of the human mutants in the Forbidden City in Beneath the Planet of the Apes worshipping the Alpha and Omega "doomsday bomb"! I've also just read The Stand with Trashcan Man and his doomsday weapon. In fact, it is a staple of much 1950's-1980's SF isn't it?
Oh I liked this one, me thinks Teddy is even crazier than Alpha and the filthy woman.
In my opinion, the top rung of the nutcase ladder is occupied by characters like this guy -- visionary leaders willing and able to murderously bend reality to match their twisted visions.To me he doesn't strike as nutcase, but as a professor that has found freedom to do anything he knows and can imagine. Maybe even putting his subjects in the brainwashing program, he couldn't do when the Old World was still standing and functioning.
In my opinion, the top rung of the nutcase ladder is occupied by characters like this guy -- visionary leaders willing and able to murderously bend reality to match their twisted visions.
I'm thinking Charles Manson, Jim Jones type of crazy. Intelligent, charismatic but somehow not wired quite right.
It's a religious-like fervour in his own political ideology that he has developed and is spreading. He may well have been some kind of academic with odd ideas before that he can now explore for real. Seeing the "event" as a call from God or science to clean the Earth has no basis in anything we've seen in TWD or FTWD yet, so I'm assuming that it is an idea he cooked up all by himself.What your mind brings up about him?
Historically, this kind of figure all thought they were doing something that made sense to them, and their ideologies had mass appeal. However, mass violence and the elimination of other groups of people does require dehumanisation as a psychological prerequisite. That's why working on Wes' brother to show him that the people he killed were just like Wes should have worked.In my opinion, the top rung of the nutcase ladder is occupied by characters like this guy -- visionary leaders willing and able to murderously bend reality to match their twisted visions.
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