Star Trek - Discovery - 3.13: That Hope Is You, Part 2

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I don't have time to do a full synopsis. If you can suspend your disbelief at all of the technobable and weird storyline in the previous two episodes, then this was not a bad wrap up. A hectic and furious pace as usual. The plot was hellishly complex, but it did have several big problems that I couldn't get over:
  1. When they disconnect the Nacelle and suddenly drop out of Warp so that the Ni'var ships can catch up with them, the Veridian simply opens up and swallows them. So, the Veridian suddenly dropped out of Warp too? At exactly the same time? More than improbable. I'd say impossible! Also, it appeared to continue at Warp, which make even less sense.
  2. Booker can operate the Spore Drive but absolutely no one thought of this until now? They desperately needed to replicate the Spore Drive and add it to other Federation ships but decided that only Stamets had the ability to operate it. So, they decided that without doing any kind of research into empathic races at all? Come on please! That's just a deus ex machina if ever there was one.
  3. They eject the Warp Core and use the Spore Drive to travel to the nebula. Exaclty how is the ship being powered now? Auxiliary power has only ever been limited and intended for short term use only. The Impulse Drive still uses power from the Warp Core. Yet we see Discovery under Impulse. Did Discovery get upgraded with some new batteries too?
Also, why is Osyraa's scientist spared the beam out? He enabled her. He is just as guilty as any of her other minions.

And they finally found some time to replicate the new uniforms!
 

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I still don't get what they tried to accomplish with those mini robots. It's like they had an idea, but it ended quite weird.

Finally, we found out what caused the burn. Not something that can happen in real life. that's for sure.

For once, I was happy with the end of the seaon. No more cliffhangers. Well, except for the cat. Apparently, there was not time left for Grudge.

We can say good bye to the series if something happens with covid crisis and they cannot work on season 4. Anyway, there is no point for Discovery to remain in the future.
 

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Well, this explains Michael ends up as captain again and what to expect for the next season.

Unlike previous Treks, Discovery has been playing musical chairs with the coveted Captain role since the very first season. In Season 3 alone, we saw two different characters in the captain's chair — Saru and Tilly — before the center seat was eventually given to Michael Burnham in the finale. Paradise says this was always the goal from the outset of the season.

"We knew going into the season that's where we wanted to end," Paradise says. "It was about taking her as far from that point as we could, so we could watch her journey into the captain's chair. So, at the beginning of the season, giving her that year away, and having her refuse that chair in Episode 3. And then, taking her to that crisis point in Episode 7, where she really has to decide if this is the world she wants. We've watched her over the course of three seasons, and this felt like the right time to do it. And we're excited to see what she does next."
 

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This is difficult question. It depends on the function of the Captain. Kirk didn't follow orders either. In that way he wasn't a good Captain either, however he was a better Captain than an Admiral. Both Burnham and Kirk are inspiring Leaders (supposedly). Being a good Leader is not the same as being a good Manager or Diplomat. That seemed to be what Picard and Sisko did mostly. A Leader inspires people and they win military battles, but is Starfleet a defence force or is it for diplomacy and exploration? Leaders have the ability to communicate their passion, purpose, and meaning to others. Admiral Vance obviously thinks that having a good Leader in command of Discovery is more important right now than having someone who will slavishly follow orders, but if he has all his Captains like that, he will be herding cats!
 

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And Kirk? :)
Which one? The Kelvin one seems to get rewarded for insubordination as well and it never sat well with me.

Shatner's Kirk was someone who rose through the ranks, had a good reputation and worked hard. He sometimes broke rules out in the frontier but not as a matter of course. His main act of insubordination was to steal the Enterprise to save Spock and Bones in Search for Spock. He was demoted for that and expected to be punished.
 

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Vance obviously thinks that having a good Leader in command of Discovery is more important right now than having someone who will slavishly follow orders, but if he has all his Captains like that, he will be herding cats!
Vance giving Michael command of the Discovery because her insubordinate ways got favorable results may be a great decision in the Star Trek universe, but it's not something I would expect to find in the real world.
It reminds me of a quarterback who consistently makes risky passing decisions. As long as the passes are complete, he's a genius and a hero. The moment he throws an interception, he becomes a loose cannon who needs to be reined in. If repeats his mistakes, he may soon find himself on the bench watching the backup quarterback in action.
And they finally found some time to replicate the new uniforms!
And didn't Michael look resplendent sitting in the captain's chair? A new look for new adventures. I loved how they played the original series closing music at the end of the finale.
We can say good bye to the series if something happens with covid crisis and they cannot work on season 4. Anyway, there is no point for Discovery to remain in the future.
It would seem that they found a way to safely produce season three, so I have high hopes that the pandemic won't additionally delay season four.
 

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As per the latest news, season 4 may return as a classic Star Trek. Others claim it may return with Cardassians news.


CBS has yet to reveal the next season's official debut date. However, the network revealed that the cast and crew started filming back on November 2, 2020 in Toronto. Despite the COVID-19 pandemic, Discovery Season 4 began filming roughly nine months after Season 3 wrapped in February 2020. As of this writing, Discovery is the only live-action Trek series actively filming. This means it will almost certainly air before Picard Season 2 and the debut seasons of Strange New Worlds and Section 31.
Mid-to-late 2021 is a good bet for when we can expect to see Discovery Season 4.
 
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