Why Do We Love Bad and Obviously flawed Science Fiction. Fantasy Films, Tv Shows and Novels ?

I'm with you. I wasn't a fan of either show but I couldn't see why ANYONE would voluntarily watch Buck Rogers...
But there again I was the kid getting beaten up for liking Blake's Seven...

It lasted for tow seasons and it might gone on longer had the never done the whole Seacher zaniness in season 2.
 
By the 1970s , the UK was doing some truly great sci-fi tv programmes., Doctor Who was in it's Baker years, there was Blakes 7, Quatermass, Space 1999, etc etc. Even kids tv was getting gritty sci-fi drama like The Changes and Chocky. There was never a better time than the late 60s/70s for innovative, interesting (and often frightening) science fiction drama in Britain.
 
By the 1970s , the UK was doing some truly great sci-fi tv programmes., Doctor Who was in it's Baker years, there was Blakes 7, Quatermass, Space 1999, etc etc. Even kids tv was getting gritty sci-fi drama like The Changes and Chocky. There was never a better time than the late 60s/70s for innovative, interesting (and often frightening) science fiction drama in Britain.

Yes , at that time Britain was producing really good science fiction.

In the 1970's, US television marked the end of the Television westerns . What you had were pretty much mediocre dramas and lame sitcoms TV movies of various genres few of which were that great on occasion there was the tv envoy miniseries which were almost exclusively not science fiction.
 
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Yes , at that time Britain was producing really good science fiction.

In the 1970's, US television marked the end of the Television westerns . What you had were pretty much mediocre dramas and lame sitcoms TV movies of various genres few of which were that great on occasion there was the tv envoy miniseries which were almost exclusively not science fiction.


Yep , Buck Rogers was basically cowboys in spacesuits. One tv mini-series that I really did enjoy at the time though was V. The tv series that followed sadly wasn't of the same calibre.
 
Because they're fun!

I attended a webinar on world building from David Farland last week, and that's basically what he said. He used Star Wars (and maybe LotR) as examples. I'd add Doctor Who at its best to that list - it's ridiculous if you think about it too much, but it's fun.
 
Yep , Buck Rogers was basically cowboys in spacesuits. One tv mini-series that I really did enjoy at the time though was V. The tv series that followed sadly wasn't of the same calibre.

Had Buck Rodger maintained the darker tone the two hour pilot and ditched the whole Searcher concep of season two , it might have had a longer run then it did,

The first V Miniseries was a excellent , The second V the Final Battle was less so . From what Ive read over the years Kenneth Johnson didn't really want to do a full blown tv series but as series movies because he thought they maintain keep the quality of the story telling. The Network insisted on tv series and didn't;t care about quality.
 
It doesn't lessen my crush on her, though.

She was beautiful , no argument there. :cool:

In orignal Buck Rogers novel by Philip Nolan ( and he wasn't called Buck, he was called Anthony) I think they ended up Husband and wife, Had the show continued I think it would have filled that that route.:)
 
I've come to the conclusion that this is the only Buck Rogers I can like...
 
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Yep , Buck Rogers was basically cowboys in spacesuits. One tv mini-series that I really did enjoy at the time though was V. The tv series that followed sadly wasn't of the same calibre.
It doesn't lessen my crush on her, though.

The episode with Buster Crabbe the original Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers guest starred and the scene with him and Gill Gerard is was that show's finest moment. :cool:(y)
 
I was thinking about this, and at the end of the day, I'm not sure that I do. There are films that I've thought of in the past as silly but enjoyable - Robocop, Starship Troopers, Excalibur, Bram Stoker's Dracula - but right now I'd say that they're actually good films, despite having flaws. I suppose something like Jason and the Argonauts might count, but the bits I like are the good, well-made bits, namely the Ray Harryhausen parts, and I've forgotten most of the rest.

I find it very hard to like much SFF before 1980 or so, with the exceptions of Star Wars, Alien and perhaps 2001. Until that rather grubby, worn-in look was established, a lot of SF just looks a bit cheap and silly to me, so that I can't really get with it even when I know that the stories are good. The exception for me might be The Prisoner, which I remember fondly, but I suspect that if I went back to it, a lot of it would just seem bad.
 
Tomorrow's People, children's TV show from the 70's. I really don't remember to much about it apart from the kids had special powers and an underground lab? It probably had loads of flaws but what I do remember was rushing home from school to watch.
I think there was a reboot, I did try watching it but couldn't.
 
Tomorrow's People, children's TV show from the 70's. I really don't remember to much about it apart from the kids had special powers and an underground lab? It probably had loads of flaws but what I do remember was rushing home from school to watch.
I think there was a reboot, I did try watching it but couldn't.

The reboot wasn't very good.
 
There was the 1979 Martian Chronicles miniseries with Rock Hudson . It was pretty good. :cool:
 
There's loads of great scifi/fantasy especially from British tv in the 60s/70s and 80s , but a lot of it was for kid's tv, presumably because writers couldn't get airspace for adult scifi programmes. So that we got great series like Children of the Stones, Into The Labyrinth, Chocky, The Tripods, Robin of Sherwood, Doctor Who, The Changes, Space 1999, Logans Run, Thunderbirds, Stingray etc etc.

There were still some great adult British 60s/70s scifi/fantasy like The Stone Tapes, Quatermass,, Blakes 7 but it was generally poorly represented which is probably why so many adults lapped up scifi that was primarily aimed at kids like Doctor Who.
 
Into the Labyrinth was great, Ron Moody always delivered.
Of course, that is just me looking back, should I watch a video of it today my adult view may differ from my teenage view,
 

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