Thor: Science or Magic?

Guttersnipe

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Thor is among my favorite Marvel characters. I've only read the older issues of the mag, but I remember that, at least in those ones, that Thor was definitely a god, a magical being of sorts. His powers were supernatural. But in the most recent films, his powers and abode only appear magical due to highly advanced technology, and the "gods" are basically extraterrestrials. Can someone tell me why Thor was science-fictionalized in the films? And does it bother you?
 

hitmouse

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Does not bother me. Fits in with the film universe nicely.
I think Thor is one of the more successful characters in the movie series. Thor: Ragnarok hits the note. I remember the comics being quite serious: the humour of the movie Thor works well.
 
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think later comics sci-fi-icated Thor as well, and the movies take inspiration from that material rather than the earlier comics.
 

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I feel that both the comics and the MCU movies present Thor (and Asgard) as a combination of Science and Magic. We have seen definitively in the MCU that magic exists alongside scientific wonders. Asgard is a near perfect fusion of both. Loki, Hela and Thor all wield significant powers that are clearly magical in nature - Loki's "tricks", Hela's - well almost everything Hela does shows her powers, Thor from Ragnarok onwards is shown to have his powers be innate rather than bestowed. I think some of the "tech" - best example being the "scanner" the adgardian healers use on Jane to scan for the Aether - is explained in a technological manner, while the function shown is more mystic. Considering the nature of the 616 AND the MCU I think a blend of science and magic makes perfect sense for Asgard and its denizens.
Same Results, different methods I suppose.

As to being a "god" or not, I believe it is only in the first movie where there are any real denials of deific status from Odin, and I think this might be him being the pathological liar Odin is known to be, as he is in the midst of reprimanding Thor. But later films, particularly Ragnorok, re-establish that Thor IS the God of Thunder, as Hela is Goddess of Death. Even Agents of SHIELD goes out of its way to refer to Lady Sif as a Goddess of War.
 

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I Would say magic.Thor is much more conan type barbarian fantastic 4 science with s,f, elements in it,
 

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No problem for me as SF science is almost universally magic anyway. The only Exceptions I can think of are The Martian and Apollo 13.
 

Bramandin

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If it wasn’t clearly so before, the new film very clearly says Thor and co are gods.

And by the way, I like the new posters a lot

Very bold of them to put Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr on the poster.
 

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Marvel loves to mix tech and magic. Demons catching the techno-organic plague. Magic that makes the X-Men invisible to video. Fighting satan and winning with a spell. Etc.
 

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