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.matthew.

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Id like to see the CW give a live action Constantine series a second chance . I think thwart has the live live action series been on the CW, it would still be on the air.
True, it could definitely have worked, but I think Constantine benefited from being on the gritter side and CW doesn't tend to do that well (being largely YA targeted).

Even if on another network, from what I've seen, the pure DC characters don't translate well to live action at all (I say pure because Hellblazer was under their Vertigo branding which has also spun off Lucifer and Preacher). Even Nolan's Batman trilogy wasn't great (I did really like the first one and the second was good, but don't get me started on the plot holed mess of number three).
 

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True, it could definitely have worked, but I think Constantine benefited from being on the gritter side and CW doesn't tend to do that well (being largely YA targeted).

Even if on another network, from what I've seen, the pure DC characters don't translate well to live action at all (I say pure because Hellblazer was under their Vertigo branding which has also spun off Lucifer and Preacher). Even Nolan's Batman trilogy wasn't great (I did really like the first one and the second was good, but don't get me started on the plot holed mess of number three).
Sadly, \my knowledge of graphic novels and comics is weak to say the least. I know the basics but that's about it. Before the Keau Revive film, I had never before heard of Constantine before. Nor Lucifer art Preacher before their subsequent tv series incarnations .

I don't know how true this but many who have foundtheur to fantsy and science fction did so because of Comics and Graphic novels. I wasn't one of those who did so. The two wrier which got me interested were Robert E Howard and Harlan Ellison.
 

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Id like to see the CW give a live action Constantine series a second chance . I think thwart has the live live action series been on the CW, it would still be on the air.
I'd prefer that to them forcing Constantine into Legends of Tomorrow where he feels out of place.
 

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DC has/had a ton of shows, though I wasn't too sold on any of them. Tried watching the Flash and Supergirl shows and lost interest real quick. Batwoman got awful reviews (plus I don't even enjoy her character in the comics) from pretty much everyone I trust, and even people that I don't. I'm too daggone busy these days to check out any more formulaic superhero shows/movies, and I'm a comic fan from way back!

I was interested in the Swamp Thing show, being a HUGE fan of Alan Moore's run on that book, but not sure how much Moore-ism's they injected into it, if any. Shame it got cancelled, though. Swampy is an amazing character with a lot of potential and crossover appeal, but it would really take the right people to make it great.
 

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The producers have already indicated that they intend to re-cast the role. So the character of Kate Kane will remain, but she'll be played by someone else. It's probably an easier solution than introducing a new lead character.
They could do the same thing the did in season 9 of Dallas. It was all a dream. :D
 

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I just don't get it.

We had the lousy, "Agents of SHIELD," the dreadful, "Smallville," and now a series so bad, the lead character quit.

I think we need someone to sit in an office, until some hack comes up with another stupid idea, and give him a sharp slap - preferably with a monkey-wrench.
 

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The producers have already indicated that they intend to re-cast the role. So the character of Kate Kane will remain, but she'll be played by someone else. It's probably an easier solution than introducing a new lead character.
They've changed their minds on this. An all new character will be introduced.
 

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They've changed their minds on this. An all new character will be introduced.
Yeah, I saw the report the other day. Somehow, I can't help feeling it's the wrong choice. It's not as though the show is an ensemble piece, where swapping out and replacing a character is fairly easy.

I mean, if Patrick Stewart had decided to leave Star Trek:TNG at the end of season 1, then he could have been replaced by another captain with barely a ripple. But this entire show revolves around the character of Kate Kane. The main villain is her sister, her father's the head of the police (sort of), all of the other major characters are either her family or her exes. The only character who doesn't have a personal relationship with her is Luke Fox. To suddenly remove that character from the show is going to create a massive hole.

I could understand it if they'd gone through an audition process for re-casting the character and decided that they couldn't find anyone suitable to replace Rose as Kate Kane. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Whilst re-casting the role would be awkward, the audience would be likely to roll with it, especially if the new actor was an improvement on Rose.

Ultimately, it's all going to come down to how well the writers execute the change and the reasons they give for it. Looking at the rather ham-fisted way in which they moved from Batwoman's appearance in the Elseworlds cross-over to the pilot of the main series, I'm not optimistic.
 
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