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I agree, I saw it coming... but if a lot of people have missed the trail of breadcrumbs, then it needed to be bigger.I honestly think people have not been getting the trail of breadcrumbs with regards to Danny.
I feel if they were any bigger, folks would be moaning it was too obvious. It's a balancing act, and to be honest there are always going to be folk that complain that the story did not go the way they they wanted it too.I agree, I saw it coming... but if a lot of people have missed the trail of breadcrumbs, then it needed to be bigger.
I have to say that, apart from the sudden unexpected competence of Dany at dragon warfare and the utter waste of Jaime's arc, I loved that episode.
Yes, at least from the book, she is barren.Not to mention she doesn’t have any heirs. Since when has she ever been about future generations? It was always about her personal right.
Some may have seen but refused to follow the trail in the hope that it was either intentionally misleading or that Dany might overcome her genetic predisposition and thwart her dark side.I honestly think people have not been getting the trail of breadcrumbs with regards to Danny.
I thought it was a thing (in, for instance, murder mysteries) to have the reader think back after they've read/seen the dénouement and say to themselves, "How did I miss that? It seems obvious now," rather than blame the author/director for not spelling it all out for them without the least hint of subtlety.I feel if they were any bigger, folks would be moaning it was too obvious.
I can't see it. Even from his last words in the previous episode where he claims 'I live in the past'. There is a meaning to those words but cannot fathom what it is.What do you good people think of the rumour, buoyed by strange betting patterns that Bran will be the one that ends up on the Iron throne?
She may have let loose and released all her pent up tension, but it wasn't a very clever move for someone who really needs to win friends and influence people. Nor was killing Varys. He is still a useful person even after he betrays you.[Dany] argued that the people Cercei had locked inside the walls were there in their own will, and therefore supporting tyranny. But her suggestion of only accepting her in the Iron Throne is tyranny. To be honest, this makes want to melt down that throne and possibly replace it was something more elegant.
I can't argue with that. Is this meant to be some kind of moral that can also be applied to our own world? That even good people can be brought down by power. That power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.I honestly think people have not been getting the trail of breadcrumbs with regards to Danny. She had, even in exile, been taught of her family's birthright. Who she was, what blood ran in her veins. She had also learned that women were, "second class," just useful tools of the male members of her family. Her brother, and her first husband. (and don't tell me that was love, it was first him using her, then Danny learning to use him, and in the end, on destroying the council, his people) Men have been in various guises through out the series, the enemy, if not in reality, then in her eyes. Useful, yes, but not trustworthy, even Ser Jorah Mormont . She used his love for her from the beginning, in the beginning by survival instinct, then later consciously. As she has grown in power, she has begun to believe she is the not only the rightful Queen, but only she has all the answers to the problems of the seven kingdoms. To her, Jon at first useful, and attractive. Is it love, no, I don't think so, maybe she believed she loved him, but he became a threat, once she found out his birthright. It made her second class again. All this not only challenges her belief that she is the rightful Queen, he is also a man. Danny has displayed at times, in the last three series very narcissistic tendencies at times. How many shots has there been of her looking at herself, measuring her expressions, and the affect she has on others.
I did have an idea that everyone gets killed - all the Starks, Lanisters and Targaryens - and the only person left at the end with any noble blood would be Gentry, the blacksmith. That would be kind of fitting.But technically, since Daenerys legitimised Gendry to be Lord of the Storm lands, he is partially related to the Targaryen line and would, I guess be next in line after Jon and herself.
Yeah , The Golden Company, The Smolden Company, that was as useless a plot point as Dorne. I was surprised Miguel Sapochnik strong point has been on-the-battle-field action, Hardhome , Battle of the Bastards, now Long Night looks good, this was so perfunctory I don't know why they had the GC at all!Dare I say it. A brilliant episode and for me right up there with the best. As Susan pointed out in her post this was building for Dany although I did not believe the show runners would go there to the extent they did.
Still some tactical issues with the Golden Company lining up outside the walls, similar to to what we have seen in earlier battles. You wouldn't catch me in any of those armies.
Anyway need time to ponder what I have just watched.
Very doubtful that could ever happen. I think people are hoping the show will be just as complex with its secrets/twists as the books were. IMO, without the source material of the books to go by, the writers of the show aren't really up to the task of doing such big twists -- unless GRRM told them to.What do you good people think of the rumour, buoyed by strange betting patterns that Bran will be the one that ends up on the Iron throne?
There will always be people who don't understand plots and details, even if they are the most obvious ever. That's what these discussion threads are for, so that people can discuss and explain bits that each other might have missed.Then maybe it still wasn't obvious and the balancing act was wrong. It's up to the writer to sell it and clearly a lot of people haven't been buying.