Notre Dame Fire

[mosaix]

Yeah, five years soundsa bit overly hopeful. Still, it could be done - but would probably double the cost.

Decade(s) more like.

 

[Allegra]

However long it's going to take, I bet Notre Dame will be rebuilt at the soonest as they can with all the funds and experts pouring in, though it'll never be the same, but that's how the history goes, it rewrites. Thank goodness it wasn't burnt to the ground like some people predicted prematurely, even if that happened, it probably would still get up again stone by stone, I guess.

It is too devastating to see from above:

Aerial photos show scale of Notre Dame damage | CNN

A gutted roof, blackened stone and a gaping hole where the spire once stood.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Vladd67]

New York police arrest man with petrol in St Patrick's Cathedral

Police arrest a man carrying petrol and lighters who entered St Patrick's Cathedral in New York.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Danny McG]

 

[tinkerdan]

5 years to repair...
Gearing up for the Olympics in 2024.

 

[Parson]

Parson bites tongue. --- No theology on this site --- He will not comment.

 

[sknox]

This fire has burned the heart of Paris, which is the heart of France. A little sympathy would not go amiss. Snide is just too easy.

 

[Brian G Turner]

*cough* Let's keep this thread focused on discussions of Notre Dame and not wider questions of religion.

 

[Danny McG]

I wasn't trying for a theological debate, I thought the two memes were humorous together.

And no, I wasn't being snide either, someone I know was laughing about the fire (while it was still blazing and we thought it might totally collapse!) on social media and I got on the phone at him right away

 

[Brian G Turner]

I was referring to discussion that started to follow on from that, so figured best to nip it in the bud.

 

[Cathbad]

Bud's always getting nipped!!

 

[Danny McG]

Bud's always getting nipped!!

The last time somebody nipped my bud it brought tears to my eyes

 

[nixie]

Think we've had enough of nipping and buds, let's get back on topic.

 

[Boneman]

Ignoring the fact that the melting point of gold is 1,064 degrees C, and wood burns at about 600 degrees C when fanned, I visited a National Trust building (Uppark House) that had caught fire while renovations were taking place - it took 4 years to sort the insurance, but yes, the builders were responsible, and their insurance eventually paid up. Same here, surely? But the outcome of the restoration of the NT property was the re-discovering of old skills that were necessary to restore the building to its original state, which had disappeared two hundred years ago. The specialist artisans are now in demand around the world. There's a fabulous display before you enter the restored building, that shows how it was done. Almost worth the burning down, just to see how it was done...

 

[WaylanderToo]

with regard to the whole "5 years" thing - I suspect that that's a political issue to help macron out of a hole at the moment. The reality is that if they are going to use traditional methods (as they have say they want to) that'll be unachievable

 

[Allegra]

Notre Dame seems to have been always under repairs. Over the years I've been to Paris quite a few times, I don't remember once the great cathedral without scaffolding somewhere on the building. A few years ago they started a 20-year restoration project, now with most of the roof, wood structures and the spire gone, 5 years does sound ambitious. In the news there is a serious shortage on skilled carpenters in France. But this time the renovation will not be like any other times, they'll get all the help worldwide. Who knows, maybe the new spire will be up by 2024 Olympics.

And no, I wasn't being snide either, someone I know was laughing about the fire (while it was still blazing and we thought it might totally collapse!) on social media and I got on the phone at him right away

I don't know what you told him on the phone but I know what I would tell him!

 

[farntfar]

with regard to the whole "5 years" thing - I suspect that that's a political issue to help macron out of a hole at the moment.

Well it ain't working.
It's just highlighting the differences between what Paris can expect, and what the rest of the country can't.
("Our church has spent 3 years raising 1000€, which is nowhere near enough to save the belltower. NDdP gets millions in the first week from bigwig corporations who'll claim it back on the tax." sort of thing.)

 

[Pyan]

Nice to see that the three beehives and their 200,000 inhabitants that are on the sacristy roof survived the fire...

Bees living on Notre-Dame cathedral roof survive blaze

 

[Allegra]

So most of the precious things have survived: the Rose windows, sculptures, relics, the great organ... Now the bees, wonderful news! The fallen spire was only of 19th century's, wonder what are the differences between it and the original 13th century's, and which version will be rebuilt:

Rebuilding Notre-Dame: Which era's vision of the cathedral will prevail?

www.france24.com

 

[Parson]

("Our church has spent 3 years raising 1000€, which is nowhere near enough to save the belltower. NDdP gets millions in the first week from bigwig corporations who'll claim it back on the tax." sort of thing.)

Sigh! This is sad.