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Despite all the great possibilities of this series, I've heard very little about it living up to its full potential - which is a shame. Did anyone see the original Bluebook series, from the 1970s? Not that I'm showing my age or anything ;)It was a different time with very different expectations but that series I loved. :)
 

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If aliens arrive? Well that’s simple; we try to monetise it with caps and car stickers, then fight over who of us owns the technology.

Wouldn’t it be lovely if time-space travel could only be successful through some form of meditation or mental state that can only come from an enlightened being. That way the aliens could only be good, and the only humans who could use the tech would be ‘nice’ ones :D

Yeah... but no. ;)

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1.02 The Flatwoods Monster
Dr. Hynek and Capt. Quinn seem to be experiencing the same uneasy bonding process that Mulder and Scully underwent in the early episodes of the X-Files. Hynek wants to believe, and Quinn wants to explain. Is the mysterious man in the hat the equivalent of the cigarette-smoking man?
They didn't waste a lot of time walking the line between aliens and flying saucers vs. weather balloons and meteor strikes, giving us a closeup of the alien survivor and undraping the spacecraft wreckage. At least, for the purposes of the show, we know where the truth lies.
Much to my surprise, I have not seen Little Finger while watching Hynek.
 

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Coming over here God knows where and crash landing among the savages, cannot be on top of the list for the interstellar travellers.

This is the original case. Also if you check it out, you'll see the drawing on the monster, depicted as half owl, half man. In the recent history Bethesda's abysmally received Fallout76 also features this particular paranormal creature.

About 7:15 p.m. on September 12, 1952, at Flatwoods, a little village in the hills of West Virginia, some youngsters were playing football on the school playground. Suddenly they saw a fiery UFO streak across the sky and, apparently, land on a hilltop of the nearby Bailey Fisher farm. The youths ran to the home of Mrs. Kathleen May, who provided a flashlight and accompanied them up the hill. In addition to Mrs. May, a local beautician, the group included her two sons, Eddie 13, and Freddie 14, Neil Nunley 14, Gene Lemon 17, and Tommy Hyer and Ronnie Shaver, both 10, along with Lemon’s dog.

There are myriad, often contradictory versions of what happened next, but UFO writer Gray Barker was soon on the scene and wrote an account for Fate magazine based on tape-recorded interviews. He found that the least emotional account was provided by Neil Nunley, one of two youths who were in the lead as the group hastened to the crest of the hill. Some distance ahead was a pulsing red light. Then, suddenly, Gene Lemon saw a pair of shining, animal-like eyes, and aimed the flashlight in their direction.

The light revealed a towering "man-like" figure with a round, red "face" surrounded by a "pointed, hood-like shape." The body was dark and seemingly colorless, but some would later say it was green, and Mrs. May reported drape-like folds. The monster was observed only momentarily, as suddenly it emitted a hissing sound and glided toward the group. Lemon responded by screaming and dropping his flashlight, whereupon everyone fled.

The group had noticed a pungent mist at the scene and afterward some were nauseated. A few locals, then later the sheriff and a deputy (who came from investigating a reported airplane crash), searched the site but "saw, heard and smelled nothing." The following day A. Lee Stewart, Jr., from the Braxton Democrat discovered "skid marks" in the roadside field, along with an "odd, gummy deposit" -- traces attributed to the landed "saucer" (Barker 1953).
The Flatwoods UFO Monster - CSI

I find it super intriguing that the plane was leaving behind a contrail of smoke and super heated particles. Almost as if it had come in at wrong angle and lost whatever shield it'd left during the atmospheric entry. You could see that there was no real weather phenomenon during that night, and therefore the crash could not be depicted to be caused by for example a lightening strike.

Not even if it was a sprite. Although we don't know that for sure.



First time you see the 'monster,' you almost can assume that it's a visitor wearing some sort of suit. Some files has been claiming that the suit that the greys are wearing over their bodies is biotechnical. Their eyes are covered with lenses that are said to have lead US to develop the Nightvision technology back in the fifties, issuing it out at sixties to the soldiers going into the Vietnam War.

It is however incredible that one can survive a burning entry, crash land, start a forest fire and walk out from the vehicle on your own. We humans would be confused and certainly shocked, but we don't know for sure if the Flatwoods Monster was anything like that. Surely they must have the "Fight or Flight" reaction that Cpt Quinn was mention.

I kind of loved that the Flatwood citizens had an adverse reaction and they were ready to put up a fight with the bloody alien. Surely West Virginia is a hill billy area, but the people living there aren't backwards. Not always.

Most of the time they are just misfortune.

I was surprised by Captain reaction to the crash scene. He could see that it had been a major incident by just standing by the burned woods. But unlike with the meteor impact the vessel had carved it's path through the woods.



Probably the super heated air ignited the woods. Thing is those trees are full of water, and they are not easy to ignite. You'll have dry them for weeks, but something superheated could ignite their surfaces, although not burn through the whole trunk.

Dr Hynek did find elevated radiation as he scanned the area, but unlike real scientist he didn't bark out the readings. What is not clear is that was the army there before they arrived or did they come out from the woods for Hynek to witness the covered object.

He explained to the family that it might be a meteor, but in that turn he should have also explained that they found a melted crystallised object buried in the ground. And that it could have been a part of anything. If there was a passanger, it could have got out from the shell, before it completely infused itself in the ground. But also that melted bit could had been part of the broken apart vessel, and what the military had covered under the tarpaulins could had been the pieces.

In the last episode we saw what small plane crash landing looks like. In the news we have seen numerous times how the planes come apart in the impact, and that the crash field is usually a very long, elongated circle.

The second witness to the case had been submitted to the psychiatric unit, and like many close encounter witnesses, she claimed that the creature showed her the future. In other words she is talking about telepathic projection, instead of a history download. Maybe the visitor was panicking and therefore projecting something unreal, like for example "the end of all things."

She also claimed that MiB's were scared. Scared of what? The exposure or the manhunt?

General Harding surely wasn't impressed by Cpt Quinn's inability to handle the situation. If he would had been a real military man, he would had found a solution to calm the situation, before the National Guard comes into the play.

So, why not use those army men to cordon off the area, conduct a proper search and a possible rescue?

Dr Hynek did made a brilliant experiment by luring the horned owl into the scene. But, thing about the owls is that they've also been reported in the UFO sites and they've something to do with the alien agenda. What we don't understand and what is controversial to the case is that the own was making sounds, and the witnesses reported the contact being silent.



Did the MiB acquire the traveller and transported it to safety before the army and its investigators arrived? Unlike the one seen in the crash scene, the man near the store looks like human and his face wasn't covered.

General Harding certainly was pleased after the Owl reveal, and he claimed that "it's always not for nothing. Not any more." Maybe the MiB works for him. Maybe they are aliens. Whatever they are, they know. It surprised me however that they killed the second witness.

Final surprise was that they transported the vessel probably to Wright Patterson Base, at the infamous Hangar 18, where the BlueBook office is situated. It didn't look it had made it all the way across the country to the Area 51/S4, as there was woods around the airbase

Could the melted meteor been an ejected power core?
 
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Coming over here God knows where and crash landing among the savages, cannot be on top of the list for the interstellar travellers.

This is the original case. Also if you check it out, you'll see the drawing on the monster, depicted as half owl, half man. In the recent history Bethesda's abysmally received Fallout76 also features this particular paranormal creature.

About 7:15 p.m. on September 12, 1952, at Flatwoods, a little village in the hills of West Virginia, some youngsters were playing football on the school playground. Suddenly they saw a fiery UFO streak across the sky and, apparently, land on a hilltop of the nearby Bailey Fisher farm. The youths ran to the home of Mrs. Kathleen May, who provided a flashlight and accompanied them up the hill. In addition to Mrs. May, a local beautician, the group included her two sons, Eddie 13, and Freddie 14, Neil Nunley 14, Gene Lemon 17, and Tommy Hyer and Ronnie Shaver, both 10, along with Lemon’s dog.

There are myriad, often contradictory versions of what happened next, but UFO writer Gray Barker was soon on the scene and wrote an account for Fate magazine based on tape-recorded interviews. He found that the least emotional account was provided by Neil Nunley, one of two youths who were in the lead as the group hastened to the crest of the hill. Some distance ahead was a pulsing red light. Then, suddenly, Gene Lemon saw a pair of shining, animal-like eyes, and aimed the flashlight in their direction.

The light revealed a towering "man-like" figure with a round, red "face" surrounded by a "pointed, hood-like shape." The body was dark and seemingly colorless, but some would later say it was green, and Mrs. May reported drape-like folds. The monster was observed only momentarily, as suddenly it emitted a hissing sound and glided toward the group. Lemon responded by screaming and dropping his flashlight, whereupon everyone fled.

The group had noticed a pungent mist at the scene and afterward some were nauseated. A few locals, then later the sheriff and a deputy (who came from investigating a reported airplane crash), searched the site but "saw, heard and smelled nothing." The following day A. Lee Stewart, Jr., from the Braxton Democrat discovered "skid marks" in the roadside field, along with an "odd, gummy deposit" -- traces attributed to the landed "saucer" (Barker 1953). The Flatwoods UFO Monster - CSI

I find it super intriguing that the plane was leaving behind a contrail of smoke and super heated particles. Almost as if it had come in at wrong angle and lost whatever shield it'd left during the atmospheric entry. You could see that there was no real weather phenomenon during that night, and therefore the crash could not be depicted to be caused by for example a lightening strike.

Not even if it was a sprite. Although we don't know that for sure.



First time you see the 'monster,' you almost can assume that it's a visitor wearing some sort of suit. Some files has been claiming that the suit that the greys are wearing over their bodies is biotechnical. Their eyes are covered with lenses that are said to have lead US to develop the Nightvision technology back in the fifties, issuing it out at sixties to the soldiers going into the Vietnam War.

It is however incredible that one can survive a burning entry, crash land, start a forest fire and walk out from the vehicle on your own. We humans would be confused and certainly shocked, but we don't know for sure if the Flatwoods Monster was anything like that. Surely they must have the "Fight or Flight" reaction that Cpt Quinn was mention.

I kind of loved that the Flatwood citizens had an adverse reaction and they were ready to put up a fight with the bloody alien. Surely West Virginia is a hill billy area, but the people living there aren't backwards. Not always.

Most of the time they are just misfortune.

I was surprised by Captain reaction to the crash scene. He could see that it had been a major incident by just standing by the burned woods. But unlike with the meteor impact the vessel had carved it's path through the woods.



Probably the super heated air ignited the woods. Thing is those trees are full of water, and they are not easy to ignite. You'll have dry them for weeks, but something superheated could ignite their surfaces, although not burn through the whole trunk.

Dr Hynek did find elevated radiation as he scanned the area, but unlike real scientist he didn't bark out the readings. What is not clear is that was the army there before they arrived or did they come out from the woods for Hynek to witness the covered object.

He explained to the family that it might be a meteor, but in that turn he should have also explained that they found a melted crystallised object buried in the ground. And that it could have been a part of anything. If there was a passanger, it could have got out from the shell, before it completely infused itself in the ground. But also that melted bit could had been part of the broken apart vessel, and what the military had covered under the tarpaulins could had been the pieces.

In the last episode we saw what small plane crash landing looks like. In the news we have seen numerous times how the planes come apart in the impact, and that the crash field is usually a very long, elongated circle.

The second witness to the case had been submitted to the psychiatric unit, and like many close encounter witnesses, she claimed that the creature showed her the future. In other words she is talking about telepathic projection, instead of a history download. Maybe the visitor was panicking and therefore projecting something unreal, like for example "the end of all things."

She also claimed that MiB's were scared. Scared of what? The exposure or the manhunt?

General Harding surely wasn't impressed by Cpt Quinn's inability to handle the situation. If he would had been a real military man, he would had found a solution to calm the situation, before the National Guard comes into the play.

So, why not use those army men to cordon off the area, conduct a proper search and a possible rescue?

Dr Hynek did made a brilliant experiment by luring the horned owl into the scene. But, thing about the owls is that they've also been reported in the UFO sites and they've something to do with the alien agenda. What we don't understand and what is controversial to the case is that the own was making sounds, and the witnesses reported the contact being silent.



Did the MiB acquire the traveller and transported it to safety before the army and its investigators arrived? Unlike the one seen in the crash scene, the man near the store looks like human and his face wasn't covered.

General Harding certainly was pleased after the Owl reveal, and he claimed that "it's always not for nothing. Not any more." Maybe the MiB works for him. Maybe they are aliens. Whatever they are, they know. It surprised me however that they killed the second witness.

Final surprise was that they transported the vessel probably to Wright Patterson Base, at the infamous Hangar 18, where the BlueBook office is situated. It didn't look it had made it all the way across the country to the Area 51/S4, as there was woods around the airbase

Could the melted meteor been an ejected power core?
About the only thing this show does well is the production , pretty good early 50s setting.
Otherwise , so far, the teleplays have been ham fisted with the feel of first year film school projects.
Direction seems indifferent , such that a good cast seems dispirited , Aidan Gillen even seems to be looking around … 'what exactly am I supposed to be saying or doing here?'....
I do like the in-your-face goofiness of the Air Force pulling a bald face conspiracy with the Russians lurking in a out of nowhere manner on the edges.
 

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This case has a wiki entry:

The Lubbock Lights were an unusual formation of lights seen over the city of Lubbock, Texas, from August–September 1951. The Lubbock Lights incident received national publicity and is regarded as one of the first great UFO cases in the United States. The Lubbock Lights were investigated by the U.S. Air Force in 1951. The Air Force initially believed the lights were caused by a type of bird called a plover, but eventually concluded that the lights "weren't birds... but they weren't spaceships...the [Lubbock Lights] have been positively identified as a very commonplace and easily explainable natural phenomenon." However, to maintain the anonymity of the scientist who had provided the explanation, the Air Force refrained from providing any details regarding their explanation for the lights.
Lubbock Lights - Wikipedia

It is interesting that back in the days this happened, they already had UFO skeptics toting about the "Government Coverup." Sure it has happened many times since, but if you ask the officials, there has never been anything to cover up. Nothing to lie about, because we are alone in this universe and it would be impossible to receive visitations, because of the "enormous distances."

In this case you not only have the radar returns, but they also have multiple witnesses to the case. The bigger case is that there was also enormous blackout. Although there is nothing to confirm it. Nothing that I can find with quick googling.



That care and the whole electrified man touching Dr Hynek seems to be dramatised. It's just we don't know for sure. But if that car, somehow is even remotely real it looks as if the UFO tried to grab and whisk it to their ship, probably the same way they lift cattle for the mutilations. But there is absolute no talk about the tractor beams or even that they possible to do these days.

The proof of concept tractor beams that we have are so small that they wouldn't be feasable for causing the damage on the car. The local sheriff claimed that he "cannot explain it all." At 1951 he wouldn't had seen Roddenberry's Star Trek or Lucas Star Wars. He could had read about it in the Amazing Tales or other pulp SF in the circulation. It's just that I doubt he would be reading them as he stroke me as a mainstream man.

The problem is that the Captain Quinn maintains the cover-up profile and he was straight away complaining that "...there's too many witnesses." You cannot silence them all. You might be able to terrorise them, but not silence.

You see the image at above and you cannot possibly give it an explanation, because even today you'd have hard time doing it. You could go with the drone swarm, but back in 51, no drones. The professor who came to give Hynek and Quinn the picture, claimed that it was plovers that was lit up by the street lights.

What a load of bollocks. Can plovers fly around 200 kph and look like humongous, at least 10 metres in size, as you can see in the picture at above?



If there was a blackout, then how they were lit up? And why we don't see this same phenomenon happening annually, if not monthly? Also wouldn't one of those witnesses had claimed that they looked a bit like the birds, proving proof for the bird theory.

It's just his explanation doesn't provide any glues on why that car is looking a melted mud cake. Nothing can. Well, nothing that was real at that time. The intriguing thing is that back in those days the cars were heavy and the plates were thick instead of thin. So, there is a lot of mass that has to bend and malform.

I liked that Hynek and Quinn went out into the fields, to look for lights in the sky, when blackout happened in the street that MiB's had visited. To me it seemed that MiB are the dramatised part of the Project Blue Book. So, after last weeks episode I did a bit of research into the subject, and what is surprising is that MiB today haven't changed. They still drive those old school cars and they are all wearing black fedoras.

I liked even more that Hynek was trapped inside the car during the incident and he couldn't provide an explanation to the lights. This time showing clearly as the above evidence shot.



The airport controller said that "there hasn't been any blackouts before. Not until this week and it happened twice." If you also noticed there was no noise. Nothing to indicated propellers or jet-engines. On top of everything the general Harding went with the experimental delta-wing explanation, proving more proof for the cover-up story.

We can understand why they are doing it, because having the alien technology gives the US a certain edge over the others. But if I understand things correctly they are drawing blank on replicating some of the technology and they need to come out with the disclosure so that they can get the public ideas.

It didn't surprise me that Dr Hynek's conclusions looked like mine.

 
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Average Joe Citizen wouldn't fall for that scrap sheet metal photo of the "V-WIng" top secret experimental aircraft as an explanation for the Lubbock Lights. How could the Air Force brass expect a scientist to accept their explanation?
Even more unbelievable -- did people actually think that a plywood shack purchased from their local hardware store would serve as an "atomic bomb shelter"?

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Even more unbelievable -- did people actually think that a plywood shack purchased from their local hardware store would serve as an "atomic bomb shelter"?
Yeah, they did. It's right at around that time, when you get the duck and cover, and all the other iconic things. Build yourself nuclear fallout shelter the same thing. Remember it's around five, six years after the WW2. Two and half to three years from the Roswell crash.

 

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Fallout shelter -- doubtful maybe' atomic bomb blast, heat, radiation, debris, fire shelter? I guess 21st century plywood just isn't as tough as it was back in the 1950s. At least Mrs. Hynek got her shack on sale.:D
 
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In nineteen eighties Britain, the government recommended hiding under the kitchen or dining-table, with an internal door walling a side, like a shelter made by seven-year-old children. It featured in an official civil defence booklet called PROTECT AND SURVIVE.
 
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Just for the record (for those unfamiliar with such things)... Duck and cover, plywood shelters, getting under a table or close to a wall has nothing to do with surviving a blast, fallout and so on. There are a lot of stages to a detonation, one being "the flash." If you're close, there is nothing you can do. However, out past a certain distance you can avoid the flash and the effects of being blinded by light or debris, and having that debris imbed in you.

Something as minimal as a piece of cardboard can help, a lot (naturally, bigger, thicker, denser is better).



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