Star Trek Discovery - 1.10: Despite Yourself

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    Cli-Fi John J. Falco

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    I did the same thing with my fingers reading this.

    That would be timey wimey.
     
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    Cli-Fi John J. Falco

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    I caught most of that and if true MU crew theory would surely go a long way to please me. To me at first none of the main characters screamed starfleet material. Discovery was always criticized for being too dark and too gritty and not focusing enough on the optimism of space travel. Them being MU would really help things with the fans who didn't like this direction. Remember we've only been on one planet and they broke the Prime Directive there to meet their own ends. Also if Lorca is MU, then he is breaking prime directive again by simply doing what he is doing
     
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    I have, since episode one, been operating under the theory that Discovery is not set in the same universe as the rest of Star Trek continuity, so when Lorca mentioned potential jumps to other universes it slotted neatly into that theory.

    I think Discovery is going to be Voyager, but between universes and timelines rather than attempting to cross a single universe.
     
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    Cli-Fi John J. Falco

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    All the more reason to suspect Tyler is a multi-dimensional spy who L'Rell is in love with.
     
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    Cli-Fi John J. Falco

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    Wasn't DS9 also a symptom of their environment? Wasn't DS9 basically a bajoran concentration camp in the MU?
     
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    Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Staff Member

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    It was still Terok Nor, the ore refining installation but operated by the Alliance rather than the Cardassians, and with humans as slaves rather than Bajorans. In that future, Spock's revolution had changed the Terran Empire and made it more democratic, but that had only served to weaken it, so that it was then conquered by the Alliance.

    So, you are describing a kind of Sliders in space? They do have a map (from the Spore Drive) so they presumably could travel around without getting lost (though they didn't get off to a good start.)
     
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    Narkalui Nerf Herder

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    I’m more concerned about what will occur with the MU Discovery in the Prime Universe, MU Tilly sounds like she might not fit in too well with the Federation...
     
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    I hadn't caught that until the second viewing. I want to see happen that but I'm not sure that we will.
     
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    My prediction for the next quarter series after rewatch: Tyler will ‘kill’ the white Klingon and truly BECOME Tyler and provide valuable intelligence on the enemy. But he will let the Klingon prisoner escape...


    Drops microphone...
     
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    I had to watch the episode again tonight. There was clearly a real Tyler, probably 7 months before Lorca was captured by the klingons. His memory flashed fast, but we can see Tyler's body and the klingon watching him on the operation table. The theory the doctor talked about just before his death, now makes more sense to me. Somehow, the klingon's personnality was inserted below his own. This could explain why his normal behaviour is so human. As long as he doesn't have to face any stress, the klingon's personnality is dormant. He is a human walking bomb.

    Lorca said to Michel that he had alwayes hoped for a better version of himself in another dimension. I don't agree with the theory he was actually from the current universe. He is as rebel in this universe as he is in the real one.

    I'm really curious what they will do in the next episode.:)
     
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    Alexa traveller space dreamer

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    Honestly, I do not remember the details. I may have to watch this episode again. He had some scars on his back and he did loose his crew once. He was the only survivor from the other spaceship, so we really don't know what he had to do and survive.
     
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    Yeah I'm reasonably sure that Ash is T'Kuvma, the way L'Rell loves him.
     
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    I’m 100% convinced he’s T’Kuvma, there’s no other way as far as I can tell...
     
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    Alexa traveller space dreamer

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    How do you explain his human behaviour ? This cannot be done with any operation procedure in the world.
     
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    Extensive trainin?
     
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    Alexa traveller space dreamer

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    In such a short time ? I don't think so. A double personality is more plausible.
     
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    Cathbad Level 30 Geek Master

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    I just saw te jump to UM once more. It seemed different. Did te Discovery split in two?
     
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    Ka*less Prayer was supposed to return is memory - te prisoner was surprised it did not. Tyler must be Klin*on!
     
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    Some notes from my rewatc*: 1) Captain's idea of findin a better version of *imself could be interpreted several ways. 2) I believe Paul is currently livin in multiple universes, so sees more t*an ot*ers. 3) I am not convinced te doctor is dead - a broken neck does not always equal dead. [apolo*ies for lack of two important letters.]
     
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    You do know that in Britain, dropping your aitches is considered, by some, to be a sign of a lack of education or of inferior social class.
     
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