I don't like mirror universes. They are usually strange and make no sense with the other episodes.
My mind is all fuzzy since the moment I've realised Tyler is not Tyler. He is a freaking klingon !I hope he will be killed in this universe and his alter ego will replace him on Discovery.
If Tyler is Klingon than his alter ego will be Klingon, therefore, can't be on Discovery. It's gonna be scary for him to see what he really looks like.
You believe there was no real human prisoner Tyler ?
Clearly they couldn't work the show ending
Both the conspiracy theories are true! Tyler is a physically and mentally altered-Klingon sleeper spy, and Lorca did deliberately alter the navigation of the Spore Drive to take them to the Mirror universe - he let that slip when he was alone talking to Burham when he said something like, I didn't expect us to end up here and Burham does the quizzical Vulcan eyebrow thing back.Tyler was changed. That theory ended up being right!
The Mirror Universe episodes have actually all been quite consistent and we have now seen the same Mirror universe in Enterprise, TOS and DS9. Although highly unlikely in reality, I think this must be the same Mirror universe again because it seems consistent with the other visits - except for the uniforms. I'm not sure how they would change so much in ten years from what the women were wearing here to Uhura's uniform.I don't like mirror universes. They are usually strange and make no sense with the other episodes.
I am still in shock over the doctor...
I was shocked by that too. It does serve to emphasise that they aren't messing around with the Tyler story-line though. He is a serious loose canon and security risk.I cannot believe they killed the Doctor!! I loved that character!
I don't think we ever found out. Maybe this time we will.Who is the emperor?
Like @Cathbad I would also be happy with that, although I expect many people would not.How long will they be in the mirror universe? I think they should stay there! That would be really cool. Fans love the Mirror Universe and it would be interesting to see more of it.
People keep talking about all the "mistakes" with plotting and canon and why the Discovery or the Spore Drive isn't around ten years later. Many of the so-called "mistakes" have already been explained. They were at War, which is different to peace-time, and Discovery is a more modern ship than the Constitution class (Defiant and Enterprise.) The Spore Drive clearly is unsafe, and it cannot work, and if they stay in the Mirror Universe that pretty much clears up the rest. This was obviously planned from the very beginning and I have to congratulate them for such detail.Plus it would help with some of the Discovery inconsistencies in the timeline.
I can accept you don't want or like this turn, but I believe it was written from the start - very carefully too as I have already pointed out. I don't think they could ever have written this 'on the hoof' and got it to work so well. We also know that it was in "development hell" (a term @Cathbad doesn't like but is commonly used) with many different writers and directors before they got started. Usually that results in a mess (too many cooks) but I'm impressed with what came out of that here as it seems they threw everything together into the pot.Now it's Star Trek: Game of Thrones. I think the series has really stepped in it now. The whole Klingon storyline wasn't working, so lets change to the Mirrorverse. Raving mad Terran Empire and murder at every turn. Clearly they couldn't work the show ending as it was so now they've ramped up the 'adult' nature for the rest of the series. I don't think I care any more.
That is a great idea, and you realise that they could also replace Dr. Culber in the same way and since...@Alexa 's idea of the Alternate Universe Tyler replacing him on our Discovery has merits! It would be a way of keeping what has become a popular character. There will be, of course, some time needed for his retraining (it would help if he turns out to be a rebel in the Mirror Universe).
Very much enjoyed this episode.
With a little luck, they'll stay in the mirror universe for some time as it will give the show a different kind of edge. Also lets them pull off larger scale events without affecting continuity.
Things I'm looking forward too:
1. Who is the Emperor?
Of course there was a prisoner named Tyler: If they wanted to pass this Klingon off as a human Federation Officer, they would need to replace him for one! So they stole Tyler's memories, surgically altered the agent (that looked painful), and killed the original Tyler!
@Alexa 's idea of the Alternate Universe Tyler replacing him on our Discovery has merits! It would be a way of keeping what has become a popular character. There will be, of course, some time needed for his retraining (it would help if he turns out to be a rebel in the Mirror Universe).
Both the conspiracy theories are true! Tyler is a physically and mentally altered-Klingon sleeper spy, and Lorca did deliberately alter the navigation of the Spore Drive to take them to the Mirror universe - he let that slip when he was alone talking to Burham when he said something like, I didn't expect us to end up here and Burham does the quizzical Vulcan eyebrow thing back.
I have a very hard time believing that a human will go along with a Klingon's plan, especially in that time period. It also wouldn't make sense as to why he was a prisoner. If he was a human first who just got altered, why would he be a prisoner? Why wouldn't the Klingons welcome him with open arms? Why would he and L'Rell have to work in secret?
I have a much easier time believing that a Klingon would want to masquerade as a human for honor or to get his honor back AKA Voq!!!!!
The human Tyler is dead. This Tyler is an altered Klingon - as the Doctor suggested, before he was killed.
I like my theory better: Star Trek Discovery: Welcome to the Real Universe! – JohnJFalco.com