The Soldier (Rise of the Jain)

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I have just preordered this on Amazon. Due for release in January 2018.

I will look for a photo to post later.

Anyone else getting one.
 

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As stated on the May reading thread I'm wanting to get it but it's a bit expensive and I think I will wait until there's at least two volumes out (that's my usual approach for incomplete series).
 

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Having just finished this, all I can say is Bugger!! I've got to wait at least a year for the second part of the trilogy.

This was an excellent novel. Fast paced and action packed from start to finish. It even got me reading at home, something which I haven't done for a long time.
 

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Having just finished this, all I can say is Bugger!! I've got to wait at least a year for the second part of the trilogy.

This was an excellent novel. Fast paced and action packed from start to finish. It even got me reading at home, something which I haven't done for a long time.
I'm maybe fifty pages into my copy. Looking good so far :)
 

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Here we go. Warship (Rise Of The Jain, book two)

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Due for release on May 2nd. I can’t wait.

The US cover has something of a Vorlon vibe to it.

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My copy of Warship arrived yesterday. I wasn’t able to get a signed copy.

I might download Line Wars before I read this, though. I felt that there were many back story elements in The Soldier that would’ve made more sense.
 

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My copy of Warship arrived yesterday. I wasn’t able to get a signed copy.

I might download Line Wars before I read this, though. I felt that there were many back story elements in The Soldier that would’ve made more sense.
You presumably have read Line Wars before sometime?
 

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No, not at all.

The soldier made several references to events in Line War so there are bits that couldn’t click into place. It didn’t affect the overall enjoyment of the story, but I would have had a better appreciation of the story knowing what happened.
 

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Ah okay, then you really need to read all the Cormac books; I'm pretty sure you'll find there's a lot of stuff in Line War that is dependent on the books that precede it. The five Cormac books - Gridlinked, The Line of Polity, Brass Man, Polity Agent and The Line War - are all pretty closely linked.
 

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I just received and read Soldier.
I have to wait for Warship.

Soldier was definitely a good novel with maximum action and suspense and a lot of science-y sounding passages sometimes almost too much and often redundant; but I suppose that was helpful considering the sprawling nature of the novel.

I'm not familiar with any of the rest of the series and I think this reads well as a stand alone.

However, I have a quibble with character development.

None of the the characters have agency(except perhaps a mysterious other that seems to be controlling everyone)- many read like they are the same character--meaning that it was hard to follow sometimes because the only way to differentiate characters was by name alone though there were hints in the headings. And of course the scene changes were usually clear. Their strengths, foibles and motives seemed to run parallel even though their ideology might differ.

The novel itself is sprawling in the sense that there is a lot going on with multiple story lines--one major one of which seems to be leading into the second novel.

The result of so many story lines is, the action supersedes everything else because each story has to complete in a shorter span as some begin to merge with others and then the final one(I almost liked this character)seems to just hang there waiting for the next book. Since I'm getting the next book next week, the hanging thread is less of a problem. The lack of characterization comes from having to jamb so much into so little and I didn't find any character that I was rooting for and definitely none that I could feel empathy for since even the mostly unaltered human was not characterized with much humanity.

Still I could give this a four star because it kept me reading.

The glossary of terms at the beginning was a waste of time--even for someone who hasn't read the rest of the polity novels.

I'll have to wait and see what Warship does for me; however right this moment there was nothing in the Soldier that makes me want to run out and start reading the other books.
 

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Is this going to be a trilogy? (if it is, I may wait until the last book is nearing release before I read it.)
 

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Is this going to be a trilogy? (if it is, I may wait until the last book is nearing release before I read it.)
On the Pan Macmillan website they have this in the blurb for The Warship: "Neal Asher ramps up the action in this second book in his Rise of the Jain trilogy." So, yeah, I guess it is a trilogy.
 

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Interesting. Maybe I will wait a few months before reading the Warship. I have the Ian Cormac novels to finish, so...
 

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