Seth MacFarlane: ‘The Orville’ VS ‘Star Trek’

Trekmovie has the season 2 trailer. Its looks quite good. :)
 
I really don't see how a comedy qualifies as "optimistic". That's like call The Life of Brian devotional. You can't mock and embrace something at the same time for your audience. The message of the Orville is that any sort of optimistic SF is a joke.
 
Seth mcfarlane can apparently do something good when i puts effort in
Im glad there's one show on air that isn't grimdark and dramatic.
 
The first series was tiresome. The jokes were terrible and and while there was potential in the series, I couldn't finish it.

MacFarlane tries hard, but not everything he does has to be a 'comedy'. If he's taken Orville seriously, he might have accomplished something amazing. As it was he just did something ho hum.
 
Comedy isn't a terrible thing, but ST preserves the 4th wall by letting the audience laugh with the crew, while MacFarlane wants you to laugh at his crew.
 
Comedy isn't a terrible thing, but ST preserves the 4th wall by letting the audience laugh with the crew, while MacFarlane wants you to laugh at his crew.

If he make the crew a running joke , the audiences for the show will go away.
 
I would not think that ST TOS, would ever have such a story as 2.08 -.09. A short peace, in a war of annihilation. Perhaps, better stated as a lull in the conflict.
 
It seems more camp or tongue-in-cheek than ST but still ventures into serious territory. * POSSIBLE SPOILERS IF EPs NOT SEEN YET * Teaching Isaac about practical jokes was interesting altho their Continuity Person was asleep at the switch. The leg that fell out of the ceiling was complete while, when the victim hopped onto the bridge, it was only missing below the knee. To me, it feels more light hearted and upbeat. I thought the exploration of relationships represented by the Doctor and Isaac was interesting. The final scene when Isaac makes it rain on the bridge was hilarious, had me ROTFLMAO. The expression of the rest on the bridge was exquisite.

The light at the end of the tunnel is a large round brilliantly lighted room with a tunnel exit across the room where 8 tawny heads slowly swivel as a pride of hungry lions watch you enter the room.
 
I saw some clickbait on my phone yesterday called, "Why Discovery fans hate The Orville." I didn't actually read it, but I like both, for very different reasons and object to someone trying to drive wedges between fans. I want both to continue. I think most of us here agree with me too. There is nothing like The Orville on TV at the moment and there hasn't been for many years. There is a niche for it that nothing else fills. Does that make it 'old-fashioned' or 'too comfortable'? Or, is it simply a good template that works well?
 
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