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I'll watch this later. Won't read spoilers yet. I just wanted to say that people can change their minds about something. This old post of mine is getting a lot of likes but I no longer fully agree with it and that IS allowed.
That's a very long trailer, are there anymore jokes left that weren't spoiled in it?

It's just Galaxy Quest, but not as we know it, Cap'n. I rarely LOL at the TV, even at Family Guy, but those jokes were old. The Family Guy Star Wars spoof episodes were funnier.
It grew on me over time. I liked the humour. However, I preferred it when it was clever science-fiction with humour doing a homage to The Next Generation than when it was toilet humour and sexual connotations. As I have said before it needs to decide what it is for. If they have sorted that out now then it will be good.

There is a place for this along side The Expanse. If the Expanse doesn't do as well, that is hardly the fault of Seth MacFarlane. Neither is it his fault that no one made Galaxy Quest into a TV series either (which would have been awesome.)
 

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The Orville, Seth MacFarlane's warm homage to the Star Trek franchise, delighted viewers with the interstellar adventures of the crew aboard the titular starship. As the series gears up for its season 2 premiere on Sunday night, Ars sat down with writer/producer and science advisor Andre Bormanis to talk about some of the science behind our favorite episodes in the first season.
The Orville blends science fiction and science fact into a winning mix

"It's a love letter to 'The Next Generation,'" said Mark Jackson, who portrays Isaac on the show. "I think it's a really beautiful thing. Seth has captured the best elements of that show and transported them into 'The Orville' and made it a different show."

Isaac is the Orville's science and engineering officer – in essence, the role he plays is akin to Spock or Data in the bridge crew. Isaac is a member of an artificial, non-biological race from Kaylon-1 that views biological lifeforms, including humans, as inferior. He accepted the position on the Orville because he saw it as a way to study human behavior.

"I think most of the humor in 'The Orville' is not derived from a parody of 'Star Trek.' I think its humor that stands on its own feet," says Jackson.

"I think it's humor that comes from observing the daily life of the star ship in the future; the boring bits, the bits you don't tend to see on screen where people have bad hair days or badly behaved children or burn their dinner. It's those mundane daily activities that 'The Orville' captures so well and that's where a lot of the humor comes from."
'The Orville' Season 2 Launches Tonight! Here's What to Expect Straight from the Cast.
 
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Silly episode and a slight disappointment for those expecting to find a great SF story. However, you can find two smaller SF stories, one in hacking and another one in a cultural reference to another species, in this case, the most mysterious Bortus.

We know that we have species that can hold breath in for hours or live deep in the dark ocean, next to the black smokers that churning out super heated acidic liquids. But, man, holding a piss and then releasing at the top point of the ceremony is something that our human minds cannot take seriously. Then again all members in Bortus species are men, and they repopulate via hatching eggs.

Even though the family angles annoyed me, I did find new faces, even having larger families and them being strangely distant to each other make me think that the Orville is bigger than it really is. The thing is that introduction of those children and their parents, plus distance that the people are presenting in Orville's multiple bars and restaurants gives an impression that the Orville has thousands of people living inside her.

In the last year the ship with smaller cast, felt smaller, but now it's bigger and more closer to ST Discovery class than ever. At above the cast members claim that they didn't wanted to include teleporters, because they couldn't handle the matter configuration at atomic scale. It is just that replicating a zipper-jacket and a bottle of vodka is the same thing.

Season beginning was funny. I mostly turned off my brain and enjoyed the low key humour that strangely lulled back in the time, when I watched TNG and DS9. I was surprised by the number of young cast members and how big it made the ship feel.

If you are a serious SF lover, you won't find a pleasure in here as none of this episodes plotlines venture there. It's still good to have this series back in the small screen. Let's hope they'll show soon something grand and spectacular.
 

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Humor was dialed back in favor of personal relationships.
It was, but as you say, there was a more subtle humour, and a more directed humour rather than the splatter paint approach last year.

I like this show. It is easy to watch, and on occasions, that is exactly what I need to watch on TV.

By the way, some animals can excrete Uric Acid crystals. It conserves water, but the process is energy intensive. In birds the result is guano. So, not peeing for a year is entirely possible from a physiological point of view.
 

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They should rename this show The Awful. Tedious, poorly written drivel that occasionally irritates. That being said I'll watch the next one in the hope that it will improve. Not overly hopeful.
 

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Better scripts for a starter.
True, they could as they did have a couple of truly wonderful ones last year. So be patient, it will come. It's just at the moment there is so much of expectations from The Orville to perform spectacularly that I'm sure we are looking the show too harshly. To be honest, the pilot for this season was almost pure soap. So, yeah, to satisfy SF nerds they need better scripts.
 

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Okay, I just watched Episode 1 of Season 2, the first episode I've seen. Two observations:

1) I liked it.

2) Besides the way cool ship design and the humor, it's Star Trek!

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The Orville goes boldly where, to the best of my knowledge, no one has gone before.
Venturing into the world of virtual pornography was daring, for a primetime network program. It was also disturbing.
I tried to get my grandson to watch the last episode, but he wasn't interested. Had he been watching this one, I would have been fielding some difficult questions.
Beyond that, watching what happens to a planet as its star expands into its orbit was a fascinating look into the Earth's future.
 

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A second episode in a row when the humour played second fiddle to relationships, and I'm not liking it as much. I liked it when it was funny. This week didn't have a lot of laughs.

...daring, for a prime time network program. It was also disturbing....
Disturbing and also, I didn't see the point. Was it really any different to an addiction to online gaming? I guess that it affected his partner too, and their relationship, made a difference?

What bothered me more about the ending was not that he was exonerated for almost destroying the ship, but that they glossed over the other 50 people who might have otherwise been saved. I think Mercer made a grave error of judgement to try to rescue them with a computer virus on the ship anyway, and that decision is totally on him.
 

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What bothered me more about the ending was not that he was exonerated for almost destroying the ship, but that they glossed over the other 50 people who might have otherwise been saved. I think Mercer made a grave error of judgement to try to rescue them with a computer virus on the ship anyway, and that decision is totally on him.
Both executive decisions best kept "off record" for Planetary Union official report purposes. Officially, the Orville was strictly observing the planet destruction. Survivors were anonymously dropped off at the nearest friendly planet. :D
 

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So pretty

What bothered me more about the ending was not that he was exonerated for almost destroying the ship, but that they glossed over the other 50 people who might have otherwise been saved. I think Mercer made a grave error of judgement to try to rescue them with a computer virus on the ship anyway, and that decision is totally on him.
Both executive decisions best kept "off record" for Planetary Union official report purposes. Officially, the Orville was strictly observing the planet destruction. Survivors were anonymously dropped off at the nearest friendly planet. :D

Yeah, I agree. The whole thing was rubber stamped in finest manners. Brotus killed almost everyone with his pr0n addition and carelessness, but in the same time it gave them an enjoyable plot to follow. There wasn't any major pitfall in this episode and what surprised me was that the Captain said there was "300 members" on board. It makes Orville relatively light compared to ST's Galaxy-class. I'm even surprised that they have families included in that number.

Thing is, this series has moved away from what it was last year. I can now heartily recommend it to any spacepr0n lovers ... not Brotus kind hasen to say. But the production team has taken in the complaints and they've made the episodes feel like classical SciFi. At the same time they've made the crews to be closer to real counterpart humans, because there is no ship out there that is super professional only.

We can't do that, because humans are made of feelings, and it's all part of who we are. I believe that the ships that will go out there, will be filled with people who has potty mouth and dirty thoughts. It's just I don't believe for one second that they would be monk like serious. I think the production has made it more believable by including somewhat smart gags.

I really loved seeing that new alien working in the engine room. But if he was the source of the virus, then he should be sacked and put in the brig for trying to sabotage the ship. He used Brotus weakness to gain access and ultimately also doomed himself to the gravity well trick.

I was surprised to find out that the virus didn't include a ransom note, because it would have fit the scene. Although it might had complicated the plot. But in the same time it would have created a bridge for the following episodes. A something for the crew to follow.

Why is that the Orville cannot do long arcs?
 
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