Game of Thrones: 6.03 - Oathbreaker

I had a mini meltdown. I thought they looked more hand and a half swords which would be even more ridiculous to dual weild, with the weight being a major problem, and the fact that they were the same length.

Rewatching and it looks like he almost struggles to draw them both, he has to spring his knees a bit to get the right height to get both blades free of the scabbards.
Very cumbersome and an experienced warrior surely wouldn't decided to fight with them because they're so impractical. Still, very cool fight scene
 
I never understood why the kingsguard felt the need to fight ned at this point though. Not like Ned will harm his own sister. And if Jon is an heir to the Iron Throne, Ned kept Jon far safer than they ever could.
 
too soon?

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I never understood why the kingsguard felt the need to fight ned at this point though.

Maybe it's because of the targaryen child? Robert Baratheon is keen at this point to wipe out all of the Targaryens (babies are seen as fair game here) perhaps the kings guard at the ToJ suspect Ned will act in the same way?
 
Well that's the 'where's Rickon Stark?' message thread killed then...

yup. i shoulda just waited...

so, who is/are the oathbreaker/s in this episode?

Smalljon Umber is a definite, breaking his oath to the Starks.
Jon Snow maybe (although he is dead so his watch has ended and so has his oath)
Samwell Tarly? he is breaking his oath to Gilly to stay with her...

anyone else?

also, rewatched the episode the other night and i think Arthur Dayne's off hand sword is actually slightly smaller... only slightly and it's still a bit silly having him fight with the swords he had.
 
yup. i shoulda just waited...

so, who is/are the oathbreaker/s in this episode?

Smalljon Umber is a definite, breaking his oath to the Starks.
Jon Snow maybe (although he is dead so his watch has ended and so has his oath)
Samwell Tarly? he is breaking his oath to Gilly to stay with her...

anyone else?

also, rewatched the episode the other night and i think Arthur Dayne's off hand sword is actually slightly smaller... only slightly and it's still a bit silly having him fight with the swords he had.


well Sam is also an oathbreaker as he's not meant to have a wife/child... Arya was an oath breaker but is now redeemed
 
also, rewatched the episode the other night and i think Arthur Dayne's off hand sword is actually slightly smaller... only slightly and it's still a bit silly having him fight with the swords he had.

I think the producers might have being influenced by Miyamoto Mushashi who perfected the art of fighting with 2 swords. I agree that Dayne's second sword should have been shorter. Although it is a small detail in what was a brilliantly shot scene.
 
I'm waiting for someone on the internet to superimpose lightsabers on them...
 
yup. i shoulda just waited...

so, who is/are the oathbreaker/s in this episode?

Smalljon Umber is a definite, breaking his oath to the Starks.
Jon Snow maybe (although he is dead so his watch has ended and so has his oath)
Samwell Tarly? he is breaking his oath to Gilly to stay with her...

anyone else?

also, rewatched the episode the other night and i think Arthur Dayne's off hand sword is actually slightly smaller... only slightly and it's still a bit silly having him fight with the swords he had.
I'm not sure that Umber broke his oath as he refused to bend the knee or make a new oath of loyalty to Ramsay. I don't buy his betrayal, and I believe that is not Shaggydog we saw and that this "betrayal"of the Starks will lead to Ramsay's demise.

In the case of Jin, he kept his original vow by putting on the LC cloak after coming back. His escape clause would have been to say "I died, my watch is over". By executing the 4 traitors using the authority of being LC he then breaks his oath by saying NOW my watch is over. I don't think it's that much of a big deal, just sloppy writinf.
 
So...death has freed Jon of his vows. And Bran exists simply to reveal Jon's heritage as a Stark and Targ. I suppose at least this means Jon's story can start to go somewhere. :)

Bolton - I take no interest in his story, so I hope the Rickon subplot is over quickly.

The Tyrion scene felt like filler, which is a shame.

Am surprised Cersei was even allowed near the Small Council - do they not have guards and protocol?
 

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