Game of Thrones: 6.03 - Oathbreaker

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Daenerys meets her future; Bran meets the past; Tommen confronts the High Sparrow; Arya trains to be No One; Varys finds an answer; Ramsay gets a gift.
 
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Arya Stark (Photo by Helen Sloan/HBO)

The Tower of Joy, finally! Hopefully they wont blueball us by having the Bloodraven take Bran out of the vision before he finally reveals the true parentage of Jon!
 
He's alive. Jon has waken. And he's as confused as Davos. To be honest, Ghost looked for a second as if he was thinking: 'Oooops.' I guess that's how one would feel after being dead for a while and then having to get forced back to the body of a dead man.

One thing that I don't understand what happens to damaged organs, or wounds that are still visible in Jon's body? Did they got magically healed? The best thing however was seeing Melissandra's face after she entered the room. She could not believe. Just like Jon couldn't believe he was back in the books of living.

It was almost if she couldn't believe after all those failures, false visions and so on that gods could grant her such a thing. But that's the thing. Her god had nothing to do with Jon's resurrection. It was done by someone else, or at least that's how I see things being.

Maybe the books offered another angle, like the one mentioned in the previous, where someone said his soul was hiding with Ghost. But one thing I don't understand, or it wasn't explained well is how a direwolf can do such a thing, when in the previous events nothing happened. So my question is does king's blood has something to do with Jon's resurrection?

The Tower of Joy and Bran's calling his father was another surprise. It should not have worked for Bran and Three Eyed Raved being simple ghosts visiting the past in a vision. But it did, and to my mind, Bran could have warned him about Lannister's treachery. And that could have been very interesting thing, because it's a time-paradox.

As a writer, it would have been an interesting development as it could have potentially brought Ned (and possibly others) back into the play. But it would have a very difficult thing to write as you have to then think everything through and how many things that could have changed. Maybe George did that in one of his drafts and he went on to write many pages to only realise its better to not weave in time-travel as the Game of Thrones isn't that sort of show.

What did you think?

PS. I love watching Arya becoming bad-ass No One.
 
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A fine episode, apart from the Dothraki scenes.

1. I thought the TOJ scene was well done. Great fight sequence. No Ser Gerold Hightower. I wonder does he have another rol play. He was namechecked by Pycelle in the episode.

2. Speaking of Pycelle. The Small Council scene was also well done. It was telling that Cersei and Jaime were left alone at the end. A sign of things to come?

3. Tommen and the High Sparrow. I have a theory here. It looked like the old priest had the young king under his spell. But I don't know. Tommen namechecked his grandfather Tywin and maybe the young king is going to grow some Lannister teeth.

4. The North is going to get fairly bloody. Loved the Smalljon Umber. I think he is playing a very dangerous game.

5. Maisie Williams is brilliant.
 
Thoughts:

  1. Arthur Dayne fight was unbelievable! Need to watch that again, best fight on GoT to date (although close with Viper v. Mountain for skill). The way he handled all of them at once was gob smacking (and probably CGI).
  2. Loved the "interaction" between Jaime and ZombieMountain.
  3. Starting to get bored with Dany storyline now. Needs 10cc of dragon, stat!
  4. Thought at one point Varys might come a cropper. I know he's super smart but you just never know in this show!
  5. Feel very sorry for Rickon, that ain't gonna end well.
  6. Why oh why do i get the feeling Sansa / Brienne are just going to miss Jon. It's getting very tiring...
 
Starting to get bored with Dany storyline now. Needs 10cc of dragon, stat!
Yes! Where are the $%$# dragons?
Drogon drops Danny off in the middle of Dothraki Nowhereland and disappears? Tyrion frees Rhaegal and Viserion from their chains, and they make no celebratory appearance cavorting through the skies of Meereen and perhaps putting a little fear back into the masters?
Has HBO cut back on its CGI budget?
 
Yes! Where are the $%$# dragons?
Drogon drops Danny off in the middle of Dothraki Nowhereland and disappears? Tyrion frees Rhaegal and Viserion from their chains, and they make no celebratory appearance cavorting through the skies of Meereen and perhaps putting a little fear back into the masters?
Has HBO cut back on its CGI budget?

I'm sure it's like buses, you wait ages for one to turn up and three come along at once...
 
it's a episode for further episode to built on really. with jon finding resolution within himself. At least that is how I saw it. He ends his watch with purpose, not merely out of disillusionment.

I actually did not like the Tower of Joy scene. They tried to keep some of the admittedly too long conversation for real life of the books whilst also trying to keep a more natural talking pace and it didn't come off well imo. Second thing I disliked (but this is probably because I read the books) is the doublesword style of the sword of the morning. Guess Dawn isn't an important sword in the long run of things i guess. Third thing, it is basically being a gigantic teaser. Like we'll show you this, but not the important part.

@Dany situation, they're obviously aiming for some suspense with the whole Dosh Khaleen thing. We'll see what fate the khals decide on for you thingie... But it doesn't feel suspenseful. Also the your young and i thought my khal would conquer the world thing from the woman in charge was just, well dumb. Like they all forget Dany has a real dragon backing her up. The writers do make sure to conveniently remind us all the khalazars have gathered. Hmm, Guess Dany has found herself her army.

Arya doesn't seem to warg in the series. I don't believe for a second Arya stopped thinking of herself as Arya though.

Now the biggest surprise to me, is the death of shagggydog. I'm really hoping that head is fake. And that Rickon and Osha being captured and brought to Ramsay are part of a conspiracy. Why would the Umber betray Rickon Stark in the first place. Then again Olly does hate the wildlings with a vengeance, if the umbers are of like mindset, maybe some of Jon's actions have seeped through. Where is Sansa in all this I wonder. I still can't believe another direwolf is dead, i'm really hoping it's a setup.
 
Great episode, really enjoyed the ToJ and Jon Snow scenes. Love the "my watch is over" line at the end - I wonder if the big battle at the end of the season will be wildlings vs boltons/karstarks/umbers?

Found the dany/dothraki stuff dull again; hoping there'll be a jorah rescue / heist scene next episode to liven it up

Arya mentions her list - made a big deal about the hound; perhaps he survived? (No mention of the others that are dead)
If arya's training montage and eye regeneration mean that she's now moved past the Padawan phase, is she now a faceless assassin? Will she now leave to collect the names on her list?

If warging is a stark trait and Jon's soul hide inside Ghost, does that show some significance of killing rickon and robb's direwolves to ensure that they stay dead? (If / when Ramsey decides to kill rickon)
 
I am really hoping the Umbers and Rickon are somehow working together and when the big battle does come between Jon and Ramsay, the Umbers turn on the Boltons.
 
I think you might be right, Umber refused to kneel or swear an oath, he knows exactly who he is dealing with.

He's there out of necessity, for the benefit of his own people as he sees it. If a better opportunity arises, he'll turn on Ramsey
 
nope - I think that Rickon is only there for a couple of epi's, Osha(?) for less :(
 
A fine episode, apart from the Dothraki scenes.

1. I thought the TOJ scene was well done. Great fight sequence. No Ser Gerold Hightower. I wonder does he have another rol play. He was namechecked by Pycelle in the episode.

I'm pretty sure that Hightower was the the KG with Arthur Dayne, It would be Oswell Whent that was cut. Unless it was Whent but they were too lazy to paint a black bat on his helm...

"They were seven facing three" I have to admit I was annoyed that they changed it to six vs. two, but the fight was so well choreographed I can let it go. What I can't let go is the lack of Dawn! I guess they either figured a glowing great sword was too unrealistic, or that duel wielding longswords (also unrealistic, the off hand weapon should be a shorter blade) would make him look like an even more badass swordsman. I guess we won't be seeing Starfell or Ashara either as there is no legendary sword for Ned to return.

Jon said there was nothing after death, just darkness. Well that kills the Warg theories. Arya has her sight back, so no Cat of the Canals. Apparently Bran is the only Warg in the family. I'm not sure how i feel about this as the in books both Jon and Arya have the ability, in fact Arya might be a more powerful Warg than Bran...

I absolutely loved everything at the wall this week!! Jon, Davos, and Mel's reactions to Jon being alive were perfect. Well acted and quite realistic. Tormund being Tormund and Edd being Dolorous. Alliser's final words were exactly what I expected from the character, he's a man of conviction and accepts his fate like a man. If looks could kill, that glare of Olly's would have put Jon down a second time. We may hate the character but the amount of scorn, contempt, and loathing packed into one glare was a great job on the actors part. And finally the words we've all been waiting to hear "My watch has ended"

I can't say I'm happy about Rickon and Osha being handed over to Ramsay, and I'm kinda pissed that Shaggy Dog is dead. I guess Skagos is out now, and probably Manderly as well.

As for over in Essos, the Dany story is slow going, but i imagine will pay off soon. Tyrion's awkward conversation with Grey Worm and Misandei was great, as was Varys doing his spider thing. Arya is clearly making progress in her training, sad she has her sight back already as it means certain book storylines are getting cut. No Jorah, Dario, or dragons this week so I imagine we'll catch up with them next week.


Finally we have Kingslanding, Qyburn with the children felt kind of wrong...and I'm not liking the fact that everyone seems knows the truth about UnGregor/Robbert Strong.
 
Unless they are combining the role of Manderly with that of Umber. Still hoping that is not the head of Shaggydog.
 
<sigh>

i was a little disappointed by that... a lot of talking without much happening. also a few scenes that i didn't feel added anything to the story.

i thought the dothraki/mereen scenes were long and drawn out and could have been cut considerably. and i got bored of the tommen/sparrow scene very quickly. and the little birds scene was a little pointless

but...

everything that happened at the wall was great and set things up nicely for jon heading south. and alliser thorne... owen teale's performance has to be one of my favourites in GOT. he's a *******, but he sincerely did what he thought was right. and his finale was great.

i had mixed feelings about the tower of joy scene. the fight was great (although i agree that two longswords was a bit wrong), but i felt it lacked the gravitas it had in the books - and not sure if i'm keen on the young ned. the baby's cry from the tower was telling though... i'm beginning to wonder if maybe the R+L=J theory is not a product of abduction and rape, but instead L actually went willingly with R and the promise ned made was to protect J until he could assume the throne as the rightful heir.... therefore the whole rebellion was actually started out of jealousy... or maybe not :unsure: is howland reed still alive? is he the last person that knows the true identity of jon? i kind of hope they don't reveal that in a flashback

arya's training went by awful quick...

and it isn't going to end well for rickon i don't think. regardless of whether the umbers will remain loyal to ramsey, i think rickon's a gonner. i get the feeling GRRM kind of forgot about him in the books and he is now an unwanted complication.

i am disappointed by the general lack of warging in the series. it was a big part of the books but has been put aside in the tv show.
 
The best thing however was seeing Melissandra's face after she entered the room. She could not believe.
NOBODY in that room was more surprised than Mel by Jon's resurrection. She knows she's a fake. So does Ghost.
 
that duel wielding longswords (also unrealistic, the off hand weapon should be a shorter blade)

I'm glad someone else thought that. I had a mini meltdown. I thought they looked more hand and a half swords which would be even more ridiculous to dual weild, with the weight being a major problem, and the fact that they were the same length. Sigh, alas.

Some bits were good, other bits not so good. OH had a laugh at the strategically placed leg of mr snow ('looks like a shaving advert') and another direwolf disappointment. Not only are they significantly smaller than in the books, but they just keep vanishing left right and centre. Arya's one is AWOL, Shaggydog supposedly dead, Summer is nowhere to be seen and Ghost is doing absoltuely nothing.
 

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