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No I'd wager there's more than just confidence going on with her. It could be a mix of unnatural long life (we've never really had her age confirmed have we - she might be grandma to Jessy but she might be many generations old) coupled to fears coupled to even an onset of old-age alzheimers. Things that affect how she thinks and reacts to the world; it would explain why she's fallen from power despite having all the reason to have held onto it.
 

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Ah, nothing goes better with The Blue Danube than exploding Humperdoo clones.
Why, I wonder, didn't they extract a little DNA from Jesse to inject a Humperdoo? Seems like a more efficient method than randomly mixing good and evil genetic cocktails. I'm not sure who was the good and who was the evil component of the successful Thomas Jefferson and Wayne Brady combo.
The Genesis extraction device was pure James Bond. The All Father is an especially repulsive villain. Shouldn't he be stroking the traditional white cat?
Obviously, they were prepared to fail, with a cleanup crew standing by and giant windshield wipers on the observation window to clear the bloody entrails from each explosion. I laughed whenever Herr Starr slapped Jesse for mouthing off to the All Father.
Finally. If the Humperdoos were merely Guinea pigs in the Genesis transfer project, who is the real Messiah?
 

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Shouldn't he be stroking the traditional white cat?
"You mean me?"

or did you mean Mister Bigglesworth from Austin Powers?



Either way I agree. The AllFather needs a cat.
 

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Finally. If the Humperdoos were merely Guinea pigs in the Genesis transfer project, who is the real Messiah?
I assume that is All Father or his clone. He is kind of villain who would ultimately want to take over the world as the Messiah. If not, they might mean the actual Humberdoo that Herr Starr showed to Jesse as the Messiah. With a right alteration, the AllFather must be calculating that the he can command the vessel instead of being one. But, if they bring out a man wearing a dog suit, we know where everything is leading.
 

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The Messiah might well have just been cloned over and over; at this point we assumed his mental state was due to heavy inbreeding and it might still be the case; or it could be a side effect of the cloning process (and likely accelerated aging since we see quite a lot of clones produced very quickly). The Grail might also just keep loads of the clones around for backups!

This might also be a hint as to Herr Starrs fear of the Allfather, if there is a better quality messiah then he might be far more under the Allfathers control and influence rather than Herr Starr is and that might be his risk (he can't kill the Allfather because he'd lose control of the true Messiah and thus the whole influence and control he has over the Grail and his position)

Also the general view was that they were using perfect (well near as) good and evil people's DNA to mix into a perfect 50/50 blend (or as close to Jessy's blend as they can get). Using Jessy wouldn't work because he's already got the right mix so his DNA would be mixed.
 

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Also the general view was that they were using perfect (well near as) good and evil people's DNA to mix into a perfect 50/50 blend (or as close to Jessy's blend as they can get).
How did they got Joan de Arc's blood? Or other DNA samples from historically important people?
 

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How did they got Joan de Arc's blood? Or other DNA samples from historically important people?
I don't think the scientific method being followed would survive close scrutiny.
 

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How did they got Joan de Arc's blood? Or other DNA samples from historically important people?
The world of Preacher is clearly different to our own; whilst it has a sort of similar world atop the underneath is very different. The Grail itself has been going for generations and vampires are abound in the world. It could be that some former need or desire or concept resulted in them collecting blood of the important people in history. It might have been used for other purposes or been stored just because they could. Don't forget souls are a "real" thing in this world so perhaps it was linked to that.

Another means might be that they collected the bones of those former people and somehow used science to clone or otherwise create blood with the same DNA with what residue is left in the corpse/bones.


Another means might be that they contacted Heaven and Hell and got blood samples from each using their contacts. Or those housed within those two realms were brought back to Earth for a few moments to have their blood harvested. Considering the rules and world of Preacher this might be the most viable avenue toward getting blood of the dead.
 

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Another means might be that they contacted Heaven and Hell and got blood samples from each using their contacts. Or those housed within those two realms were brought back to Earth for a few moments to have their blood harvested. Considering the rules and world of Preacher this might be the most viable avenue toward getting blood of the dead.
Given that Gan'ma has a private Hotline to Hell, Satan makes house calls and Hell runs a shuttle service in this reality, I vote for this explanation.
 
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"He shall know my buttocks as few man has ever have" - Allfather

So, the Messiah turned out to be the original one and not the Allfather. I thought that they were going to go down the line of Allfather making Jesse to release the Genesis and the mix at the end would turned out to be spoiled by something. I'm glad they didn't because the way Allfather went out was legendary.

If Jesse had not stabbed him with that needle, maybe he could have controlled the Voice of God as he claimed in his last words: "I have never felt such power..." before he exploded and showered the room full of entrails.



Oh man, I haven't giggled so hard for a while and I'm glad that Jesse didn't had to literally dive into Allfather backside to get back his soul. But, it leaves the question of what to do with the Messiah as I don't think Jesse for being Christian man, would want to kill willy nilly an innocent person. After all, it's not Messiah's fault that at the end he turned out to be something else than beautiful Jesus.

The other thing that I should have seen was Jesse's and Starr's fight after he returned and complimented Jesse on the results. I wondered earlier about what they were going to do with Herr Starr's scar and put it away at the back of the mind, but when I saw the result, I realised why he had started wearing hats.



Another thing that had bothered me was Herr Starr's need for Jesse to take Messiah's role, but as soon as he explained Allfather "Nuke 'em All" plan I realised why. In fact, in his shoes I would have probably done the same and tried my best to recruit Jesse into the role.

Although Jesse's move to remove Allfather and the Grail from the picture was ballsy, Tulip turning under the overpass proved that she has the biggest balls of whole cast for calling Azrael as Satan's Bitch. There aren't many who play games with the Angel of Death and live to another day. If she hadn't felt something for sending an innocent soul in Hell, she could have managed to brag about being able to steal a case full of souls from the Master of Hell. It would have looked good on her criminal CV.



Cassidy turned out to be a bit of disappointment, because after that first fight with Eccarius he should have gone straight into hunting him down instead of trying to talk his followers to flee. Almost everyone he has met has turned on him. The Children of the Night no different. There is no saviour in his life.

Not even Jesse. In other words, Cassidy is a stranger in the paradise. He has no friends. Not even the old lady.

Here's the question: what is going to happen in the season final now that Jesse has his power back?
 

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Rest in pieces, All Father. :D
When you don't have an elephant gun at your disposal, a one-two punch of Tom/Brady Cocktail and Genesis will do the trick. The post-mortem delivery of Jesse's soul was disgustingly hilarious.
So was the wrestling match in All Father's meaty remains, pitting Jesse "The Preacher" against Herr "Dickhead" Starr. Once again, the musical accompaniment put the scene over the top with "Joy to the World." Starr's white Grail suit did a nice job of sopping up the blood.
Another high point in this highly humorous episode was the rescue of Hitler. The Highway to Hell populace includes what appear to be actual, World War II-vintage Nazis, complete with a Panzer tank. Apparently the guy Hitler called for help has friends in low places.

"No more hats." Genesis has spoken. :ROFLMAO:
 
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a bit heavy on the arty elements in this episode a bit of a shift, then again this episode is one that started with something very fulfilling (Allfathers departure) and yet ends on a huge cliffhanger. Hliter's possible Nazi uprising in Hell - Jessy VS Grandma - the Devil and his antics - the Angel of Death and his clear thinking of his own agenda - Herr Starr and the Grail - and Cass and his Vampire friends - next week can't come soon enough!
 

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So was the wrestling match in All Father's meaty remains, pitting Jesse "The Preacher" against Herr "Dickhead" Starr. Once again, the musical accompaniment put the scene over the top with "Joy to the World." Starr's white Grail suit did a nice job of sopping up the blood.
Oh man even reading this makes me giggle so hard. Definitely the most hilarious moment on this season. LOL. I have to watch it again.
 

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Here's the question: what is going to happen in the season final now that Jesse has his power back?
Another high point in this highly humorous episode was the rescue of Hitler. The Highway to Hell populace includes what appear to be actual, World War II-vintage Nazis, complete with a Panzer tank. Apparently the guy Hitler called for help has friends in low places.
They might not have been taken to Satan yet, but they appeared to have travelled a long way down the Highway to Hell. I'm assuming, therefore, that Jesse will still need to rescue Tulip and Eugene from the higher planes of Hell (it is Jesses' fault Eugene is there.) So, he is going to need Genesis to do that. After that... who knows?
 

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So God was early in Jesse's life even if he didn't acknowledge it His existence. But Miss Marlee has always looked the same. She had Jesse's dad shot, and she sucked his mum's soul. So, no wonder why he's upset with the Angelville's business, because I would have done the same. Maybe the stranger thing is too Satan sitting in same table at the same day, almost as if the house in the celestial crossing point of some kind.

How can these things happen there and not elsewhere?

Well, these things aren't common practice in the world and we really don't know where the Highway to Hell really is other than it's somewhere in America's backyard, and common natzis can get there, while still wearing the red tRump cap on his head. I thought the fight inside the bus was interesting than what happened to Azrael and the Saint of Killer at outside. By far the Hitler vs Arseface match was the funniest, while I didn't like at all what a bitch Azrael turned out to be.

She didn't even get a scrape, while the Saint got ran over by a Panzer IV. Maybe the most interesting thing is that God is riding with a new female and he still has the power to do whatever he wishes and nobody can do anything. Not even the so-called demons.

The more intriguing detail is that He speak with same tone as the Genesis. Although his Genesis has angrier tone, God's voice is gentler and yet as powerful. Fear the God should be a thing, but it's not. He's letting things to happen as they are, and as Tulip wanted.

Why is that Tulip was given a chance to express her wish? She didn't wanted any as that fits her character, but if she has expressed her desires, I believe God would have granted her a favour against a favour - stopping Jesse Custer.

But, was Cassidy's revenge God's intervention? I didn't see for him anyway to leave the trap. Why an old woman would ever reach up so high that Cassidy could bite her, unless she had prayed for God to give her tools to get rid of the monster in the basement?

Maybe the bigger question is why Grail consequently destroyed all those godless creatures, expect the grandma and funny fat man, now turned to a vampire. Maybe it is like Saint of Killers has said after he'd capped Satan that the rules are changed as the Hitler now sits in Horned One's office at the deepest hell, while dealing with what was left on his desk.

I loved this season. It was a return to the first one and topping the game. AMC has done a wonderful job on taking Preacher farer than the comic book depicted. Well done.
 

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Ok so I thought Hitler would take over hell, but it didn't quite go how I thought at all! However it was fantastic! Interesting to see the bats fly out of Satan's head - I wonder if he's got a link to vampires there (we've not actually have a "reason" for vampires to exist) and that Hitlers take over might not last as long as he thinks.

From what I gather Grandma and her Son hid in the only two coffins in the basement (as there were only two vampires originally) whilst the rest of the group ran in a panic. Some might have made it into the upper house that got lifted away, but that got dropped in the open so I suspect those two were the only survivors. Surprised they didn't join Tulip for revenge, then again that might be the end of their part of the story now.

Neat to see Herr Starr armouring up and taking measures to bring the Might of the Grail against Jessy; bit of a shame about Hoover, but it was a fitting death considering how he turned on Cass and also how shallow thinking he could be.


God still seems to have mysterious elements to him, we still don't really know anything about him even though he's appeared a few times. Hard to tell if he's got a plan or if he's just winging it the whole way. We can't even trust anything he says to know if its true or fake.

As for God and the Devil in Grandma's home, considering that the Devil had no real awareness of Jessy becoming the holder of Genesis I think that was a symbolic display*. God on Jessy's shoulder making him leave the bat in his bed; the Devil at night at the table encouraging him to pick it up again to kill her. It might show how fine a line Jessy has walked through his life to be on the side of good and bad at the same time.

*rather than a foretelling that the two had groomed Jessy to hold Genesis from a much earlier age.
 

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Bad call on my part, concluding that the Highway to Hell and Hitler's Nazi rescuers were supernatural. I was fooled by the Panzer, which seemed an unlikely piece of equipment for neo-Nazis to acquire.
These pretenders had no idea what they were facing with the Saint of Killers and Sydney, the Angel of Death. I remain incredulous that the Saint is powerful enough to gouge Sydney's eyes out and kill his boss. It makes me wonder if he would have actually needed his six-shooter to crack Satan's braincase and release the bat colony.
Congratulations to Hitler on his promotion. It's quite a step from Maxi Grinders Employee of the Week to Head of Hell.
Sucking Gran'ma's soul supply dry with the same contraption she had used on others was a great decision by Jesse. Let the punishment fit the crime, I say. Her shriveled remains must have gone up like a piece of tissue paper when Jesse torched the house.
I was sorry to see Hoover go up in flames. Herr Starr's note that a new Hoover will be needed made me think that he has a supply of Hoover clones somewhere and that Malcolm Barrett still has a job.
That is, of course, if any member of the cast still has job security. I read somewhere that this episode may be the last for Preacher. I hope that's wrong.
 

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Season 3 has 10 episodes so yes next week is the last Episode. This means that it is either the end (I've not read the comic to know) or that it will go into appealing for a continuation of its series. Considering its ratings are good its got a good chance of getting a fourth season.
 
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