The Expanse on SyFy *Spoilers*

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  1. elvet

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    I was wondering, for those that have read the books, if it is difficult to watch the series without prejudging what the characters are doing. For me, having the knowledge of what is going to happen taints my ability to comment on the actions of the characters in the current moment.
    I look closely at Miller's relationship with Holden to see how their partnership is going to develop after Miller's transformation. Miller is driven to find out what happened to Julie , and it is interesting that he becomes the source of the answers later on in the books.
     
  2. ctg

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    So sad.

    When I read about Detective Miller's demise I felt so sorry for losing a great character. So sorry to know we are never ever again going to see him again, because there's no way for the Detective Miller to get off the rock with a finger on the trigger and air supply almost diminished.

    I cannot figure... well, I could, but just like it was with the young Belter "Papa" Miller's head is stuck on his shoulders and there's a very little anything can do to change the course.

    He knows he's a dead man for seeing Julie's spirit everywhere. There is no future for him without the lady he only met after her death. I could as well claim he is a knight trying to do something so selfish it feels stupid.

    We hang on to our lives without every breath. Yet, sometimes we give up for the good cause. Are they really doing the right thing for the protomolecule being the first contact species.

    Where is Spock when we need him? And why aren't Holden growling in Miller's ear like Captain Kirk on a bad morning?

    Why they sent Navoo and not that fleet of tug engines to alter Eros trajectory?
     
  3. ctg

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    You can minimize the impact by keeping your knowledge as secret. It's not really that difficult thing to do. Authors have to do that all time. You don't really know everything that is going to happen, because this series is so different and it mixes more material than what people find in the book 1 or 2.

    Talk what you see and when something happens, that correlates with the source material, you reflect that. In that way you can keep your knowledge aside from spoiling things.
     
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    There is a podcast called The Churn that digests each episode after it is run. Both authors are interviewed plus some of the cast . I have only heard the first one and the actress playing Naomi was the guest. Well worth a listen to.
     
  5. Cli-Fi

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    Another great Episode. I loved all the heat Miller was taking from the crew. It almost seemed like they all thought his plan was crazy, and that they were just riffing on him. I love how they don't really think he's a belter. I also felt it was weird how Naomi
    suddenly liked him???

    Still never liked the plan he came up with but as things progressed it made more sense in the end.
    The takeover was badly done, and I think mormons have more security for their food storages now. Why wouldn't they protect their freaking space cathedral in the same manner? Eros moving by itself was creepy! Something tells me Miller isn't going to die, though.

    The crew flying in space was well done. Probably my favorite moment of the series so far. The ship separation was amazingly well done as was the use of Drone technology!
     
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    I can't really comment too much on the episode for fear of spoilers but awesome launch sequence for the Nauvoo, and Eros moving gave me chills, despite knowing it was going to happen...
     
  7. ctg

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    Yeah. She likes Miller and she cared for him, while Holden and him were in the ship infirmary. Naomi cares for people like a mother hen.
    You mean taking over Navoo. Radiation Alert scares everyone and these weren't militant Mormons, ready to die in space for anything. They don't have security because other people provides it.
     
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    The visuals are absolutely stunning. I love Miller. What is also great about the series is that there are genuine heroes at play. It is refreshing.
     
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    Another excellent Episode last night, even if the scene at the end was kinda cheesy.

    The Missile launch was beautiful as was the split second alliance throughout the system. Something tells me Fred Johnson isn't going to give up those missiles without a fight.
     
  10. ctg

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    The wonder and disbelief will leave humankind alone. They will stick with us until the last member of our race. With Eros moving "unimaginable" speed off the course everything seem to fall apart. Nothing we know and nothing they know can really explain the impossible.

    But that's the thing. We often cannot explain something even though things do break the logic and reasoning. And instead of embracing the event, we get scared just like Avasarala's command at the UN.

    Man, if I'd been part of the conspiracy that made the protomolecule study possible, I would have spilled my beans instead of blaming Mars for something they clearly cannot posses.

    If vessels could move the speed Eros moved across the solar system, the people in the Expanse would have long time ago head out into the deep space without a fear getting trapped at the sub-light velocities. It just wouldn't happen. But someone out there could have developed a technology that enables protomolecule. And that is the thing, because in the Expanse universe, there are no aliens. No news about exoplanets or new discoveries in the infinite space.

    What is funny is how same ideas about nuking the bloody asteroid develops in all corners of expanse universe. Personally, if I'd been in Detective Miller's magnetic boots I would have found a way to chuck the nuke and the bail out in the empty space, hoping for rescue within the limit of my oxygen tank.

    Miller's demise is that he already punctured his space suit and lost part of air supply. So without a refill a rescue is nearly impossible and using Eros machines is highly questionable.

    The moment, he were still in the Eros casino and heard the nuke's were heading in the target ... man, just another impossible situation and just like Japanese in the Second World War, Miller couldn't give in.

    And neither could Holden do much else at Eros second acceleration. Like Captain Ahab doing 50 000 g burn is something you never do because the weight just would crush you, magical juice or not.

    Most people lose their consciousness at under 6 g.

    Not them.

    Luckily I'm willing to accept Detective Miller's depiction of the events than lose this series to a disbelief. Sometime you just have to give into the fiction and let it float on it's own impossibility.


    In fact, watching the Expanse is like reading best of Asimov's production. You just accept the visuals as the truth. This is best SciFi the small screen can offer. So watch it, if you can.
     
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    Yeah, it's a little weird how they all automatically blamed Mars and potentially the OPA.
     
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