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2001 Odyssey 1st Edition book

SpanishMill

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So, I've recently started collecting Odyssey series books and the one that's giving more trouble is the first book of the series "2001 a space odyssey".

I'm aware of difference between Trade and BCE editions... or so I thought. I've searched online on various rare book collecting sites to look at images of actual 1st trade editions / 1st Printings and the ones I've been able to find have the red (NAL) printed at the bottom of DJ spine. And NAL in silver leaf on bottom of book spine.

These are pictures I found on a book site that sold this 1st/1st for several hundred dollars.....



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I own a 1st Edition / 4th Printing...

Notice the NAL logo with tree.... mine is the only one I've with this version of the logo both on the DJ and spine.. "in association with World Publishing" Maybe some here can shed some light on this form me.
Also, my end papers and boards are white.



So, does the copy I have hold any real value which someone might want to pay collectible prices for?

Any info on my copy would be appreciated.... Sorry for the huge pic sizes.
 

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Good luck with the search. I'd love a first ed of 2001 too. This is the closest Ive got







1982 Inner Circle edition presumably to coincide with the publication of 2010.
 

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To find the value your easiest way is to go to ebay and select completed sales whch will give you an idea of market value of book. Book collectors are a bit obsessive and they will want the first edition, with dustjackets. I suspect, but haven't researched the exact title, it will be worth limited value commercially, although you might do okay coming up to christmas as a gift. The other thing which might effect it is a. How many of each print run there were, and how many of the earlier editions survived. You could also look at Abe books, but take their top prices with a massive pinch of salt.

Edit: just to say, I did a wee bit of research on it.

For collectors it would have needed to be a 1st/1st, for your 1st/4th, you're looking at about ten dollars, at best. I think if you like it, hold onto it and value it... I have a ton of books here that aren't worth that much, and love them but the ones that are worth a fair bit, they hardly get touched and handled and loved. And I look at them more than most collectors do their collectible ones, cos I'm rebellious and hate being told not to touch a book to retain it's value. (Makes Mr Springs wince, though....)

Interesting, the NAL thing, because normally bookclub editions are not first editions, and are low in value, as you say you know in your first post. Looking at this, the NAL edition was the first edition, and I think - but am not sure - it may be because the original book was the short story the Sentinel... the longer book was produced in conjunction with the film.

It sort of is a good example of why collecting books is so specialist - I got badly burned with the little observer books once, cos they are so hard to tell which ones are worth 10p and which a couple of hundred.

Incidentally, in most modern inprints, the 10 numbers printed on the first page, along the bottom; if it begins or ends with a 1 it's a first/first.
 
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Walker 69 seems the true first edition (if collector's versions etc come out they can be listed as first, esp. if illustrated). I can only find two listings for it. One is in reasonable condition and five dollars, since the only other I can find is a good signed first, and it's fifty dollars, this would seem in line with the other. Harder to find, though, if you're looking for it.

A couple of easy searches: Abe books will often start you off, and you can get an average, I then used fadedgiant.net. They were in line with each other, so I didn't look further, but my next stop would have been ebay, and preferably completed sales.

To give you an idea of the range: I had a first/first Seamus Heaney Door into the dark, ex library in good condition with dustjacket: Abe were stating anything between 50 to 500 dollars at the time, although I knew ex library wasn't going to get the top end, I got 35 UK pounds for it, so it wasn't that far off the mark.
 
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To find the value your easiest way is to go to ebay and select completed sales whch will give you an idea of market value of book. Book collectors are a bit obsessive and they will want the first edition, with dustjackets. I suspect, but haven't researched the exact title, it will be worth limited value commercially, although you might do okay coming up to christmas as a gift. The other thing which might effect it is a. How many of each print run there were, and how many of the earlier editions survived. You could also look at Abe books, but take their top prices with a massive pinch of salt.

Edit: just to say, I did a wee bit of research on it.

For collectors it would have needed to be a 1st/1st, for your 1st/4th, you're looking at about ten dollars, at best. I think if you like it, hold onto it and value it... I have a ton of books here that aren't worth that much, and love them but the ones that are worth a fair bit, they hardly get touched and handled and loved. And I look at them more than most collectors do their collectible ones, cos I'm rebellious and hate being told not to touch a book to retain it's value. (Makes Mr Springs wince, though....)

Interesting, the NAL thing, because normally bookclub editions are not first editions, and are low in value, as you say you know in your first post. Looking at this, the NAL edition was the first edition, and I think - but am not sure - it may be because the original book was the short story the Sentinel... the longer book was produced in conjunction with the film.

It sort of is a good example of why collecting books is so specialist - I got badly burned with the little observer books once, cos they are so hard to tell which ones are worth 10p and which a couple of hundred.

Incidentally, in most modern inprints, the 10 numbers printed on the first page, along the bottom; if it begins or ends with a 1 it's a first/first.

good job... I paid $8 for my 1st/4th.
This particular book has given me the most problems in trying to find all the different variations across printed editions. The first pictured item on this this thread, the red NAL I pulled from a site that sold that particular copy for $1,500!

I had similar problems when I first started collecting... yes, I was a victim of over paying for a BCE edition book. We all learn the hard way :)
 

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Very nice! Who is the dedication to?
I purchased it from the signee "Bob Borgen" off ebay for $35. I dont know who he is.
Though this book is probably an advance copy because Clarke signed it 19 Nov '82. The books pub date is Dec 1982. I've other 1st editions and they dont have the black end papers.
 

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Wouldnt you just love to look amongst this book shelf!?!


If you look carefully, you see that he has every printed edition of his titles. Notice that Large 2001 book in white on the top shelf!!! My Grail!
 

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I purchased it from the signee "Bob Borgen" off ebay for $35. I dont know who he is.
Though this book is probably an advance copy because Clarke signed it 19 Nov '82. The books pub date is Dec 1982. I've other 1st editions and they dont have the black end papers.
Im guessing that Cosmos was a convention. I heard that signed books by Clarke are rare because he very rarely did signings.
Ive no signed sf books but I do have a signed photo of Stephen Baxter that he sent to me!
 

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I was bidding on two additional signed books, but price got too high.

I also have this bookplate....

 

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Got my edition of 2001 added to the best oline sci fi book catalogue out there. my_book_isfdb.org
Apparently, my edition is pretty rare as this the first one they've seen and merited inclusion in their database
 
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