There are others of us out there who like Genre and non-Genre fiction as long as it's enjoyable and well written too you know....
PM me your delivery address. I'm currently donig a clean out of my library and may have some stuff for you. I can indicate what I have and confirm anything to be sent on to you, all via PM.I see you get all those classic books, great authors that isnt SFF and get very jealous
Recently I've been reading a lot of 'Genre classics' Dunsany, Lovecraft, Cabell and others. I enjoy them and find it interesting to see where fantasy came from.
Looking at that list I've read more classics than I though but again mainly because I enjoy them. i do think a good number are worth reading just because of the impact they have on society - how many people have high and mighty opinions about communism yet have read neither Marx or Engels? A number of those works, especially some of the philosophical ones have really informed a lot of, well, concepts(?) that are discussed today.
Namely, How much time do you spend reading the classics as opposed to SF or literary fiction? AND "Is there more to be gained from reading so-called literary classics than Genre fiction?
I wonder if when we got into the middle parts of the 20th century that authors began to think they had to separate into different camps for some reason or the other so that now you wouldn't see "serious" authors write science fiction or fantasy.
My interests and therefore collection basically encompasses the classics of all regions from the early days of Mesopotamian classic Epic Of Gilgamesh to the present. I basically have almost all of those works you listed for the Book Club and otherwise representative works by those authors certainly. The only author I do not have is Menzoni, so I've made a note of this now. I would have liked to attended that club....But I want to say that the reading group's list of classics could reinforce a mistaken impression -- that when we talk of literary classics, we may tend to mean "19th-century and early 20th-century novels."
In fact, the realm of the literary classics is, of course, enormously varied! The reading group never read, for example, Njal's Saga from medieval Iceland, but that's a literary classic.
You cant say genre literature is not deep, quality writing either when genre greats today will become classics like Poe,Shelley of tommorow. Great writing will always survive genre or non-genre lit. Thats what im interested mostly in. Sure i read 50% of my genre books for entertainment only but there are many i read for their strong literary ability despite their modern genre ghettos...
I can say over here there is no classic authors that is too good for their genre in Academica. Poe,Gothic authors and co are hailed for their fantastic stories. I was surprised by that, i expected what you describe of in America,England.
I think it also depends on the reader. I've gotten far, far, far more substance, emotion, pathos and insight into humanity from reading genre fiction than I ever have from reading general lit. It's all about how the books connect with the reader, and really that's the only thing that even remotely matters. The rest is pure posturing.
As I said, Conn, there are exceptions; but my statements still apply to the bulk of genre writing. All it takes is looking at the history of the various genres to see what percentage has floated, and how very, very much has sunk; or simply look at a decent run of any of the pulps, and read them in their entirety. There are some gems, yes; and even some very good stories that don't quite reach that level. But, once again, the bulk is pure bunkum: poorly written, sloppy, often wincingly bad, nearly always forgettable (and when not, usually for the wrong reasons....). Great writers will write great stories, whatever the material. But the nature of genres is, unfortunately, to feed an always-hungry maw regardless of quality... and the majority of the time (at least to a critical reader) it shows. The exceptions remain just that: exceptions. It isn't the type of material which is at fault, though; it's the situation surrounding such....
Question, Dale: How do you feel about Ciardi's translation of the Comedy? I personally found it a very enriching experience, but I'd be interested in your thoughts....
At any rate, [Ciardi's] is a generally very highly regarded translation, easily approachable, strong, vigorous, and easy to read; and I found it to be an utterly fascinating experience....
First off, literary classic is a specific term or idea, which has much to do with time scale and, more importantly, how it was or had been recieved.
Yes, many here have divided that term into genre and non-genre literature, but what I'm a little concerned about (or, perhaps, simply wanting to add my two cents to this discussion) is the potential confusion over what distinguishes these two types of writing. And, I suppose, I'd like to point out some of the merits of non-genre writing, because I think it's not only valuable but also imperative that any aspiring writer read outside of genre.
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