just finished King's Dragon.

Discussion in 'Kate Elliott' started by kauldron26, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. kauldron26

    kauldron26 Well-Known Member

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    Man o Man.... that was pretty incredible. i devoured the novel and it knocked me on my ass. How the hell is this not more popular?? it is in the same league as the masterful Farseer and Tawny Man By Robin Hobb and ASOIAF by GRRM. im definitely ordering the remaining of the series. Damn i love fantasy... Something about the fantasy genre just gets me suped up. Few things in life are as amazing as being thoroughly enraptured in a great story. I was hoping maybe Allain and Liath were going to get together eventually down the line, but it seems liath is meant to be with Saglant.
     
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    What kind of fantasy was this book ? Is it epic or historical or heroic ?

    I want to try this author and this book sounded interesting.
     
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    its very much like historical fiction. its epic as well
     
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    Connavar Well-Known Member

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    Hm sound interesting.

    I want a good story. I usually like historical fantasy so i hope i like this.

    I need more good fantasy books.
     
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    Esioul The weird one

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    I just finsihed it too.. it wasn't brilliantr, but I kind of liked it.. have had it for years and been meanign to read it. Think I started it when I was about 15 and was vaguyely traumatised, but read it again recently.;
     
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    It's in my top dozen Modern EPIC fantasy series....:D

    Slighlty reminscent of Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Williams.
     
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    My library just mailed they got the book in for me so its time to finaly see how this is like.
     
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    Look forward to your comments.....
     
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    I have read only 150+ pages. So far nothing specially. Alain part of the story is more interesting than Liath's. I was temporally very excited when Alain met Lady of The Battles. When you saw alittle of what he might become later.
     
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    Hang in there, it starts slow from memory but builds momentum. I think I liked Book 2 more than Book 1 too...
     
  11. Boaz

    Boaz Thaphireth!

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    I just finished book two, Prince of Dogs, and I also liked it better than the first. I think that is because Elliott had already established her world and thus was able to focus on her characters and plot. But she's not as subtle as I'd like. I'm pretty sick of reading, "My Da used to say "If you're gonna pick peppers, don't pick your nose."... or some such.

    She's a bit heavy handed in her presentation of Sarpentia, Villum, Tallia, Wichman and other minor characters. Granted, they're minor characters and they'd be fleshed out more if they were foci instead of accents.

    She's done good job with her villains. Sabella is a bit thin, but she is s straightforward resentful, proud, and arrogant sibling. Antonia is a bit more slippery... and now that she's joined Caput Draconis she might get nastier or else devoured by her new allies.

    Bloodheart is alien. No one knows what he wants, who he is, or what his methods are. He is other. He is beyond the understanding of Sanglant, Henry, the Mayor, Lavastine, and the rest.

    You've heard that a hero is only as good as his villain... well, Hugh makes Liath. She is the typical whining, self absorbed, over indulged, petulant, and beautiful teenager of the same old fantasy with a hidden past and secret powers. Rand, Garion, Harry Potter, Katniss, etc... Except that she's not guided by a wizard, nor taken to a magic school, nor put into the most ridiculous gladiatorial games ever conceived... No, she's actually sold into slavery in her own village and forced into offering her body and her only possession to the local priest. Hugh is a bit of Charles Manson, Phillip Garrido, Jim Jones and Nurse Ratched rolled into one. Hugh actually made me feel sorry for Liath.

    Elliot also leans heavily upon history, but uses it more like a salad bar than a set meal. And we all know what Egg Shen said about salad bars. At times I wonder if she's a poor student of history or a clever craftsman commenting on our tendencies to reverse what our forefathers intended. She's got just enough wrong about Darre (Rome), Talliefer (Charlemagne), the Eika (Vikings), and Arethousa (Byzantium) to frustrate me, but then she reveals Agius' beliefs and I know she's done her homework. If Agius, Tallia, and Ivar and his friends got the Gospel right and everyone else has it wrong, then what else do they have wrong? I'm thinking she's a better craftsman than I thought at the start.

    I guess I'll find out how the story progresses. I find myself enjoying it. I'd heartily recommend this over Tad Williams, Terry Brooks or Robert Jordan.
     
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