The Revised Tolkien Trivia

  1. pyan

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  2. hopewrites

    hopewrites I'm not jaded, who said that!?

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    "Literal thinking" makes me think "lines of text" which is sort of where I was at looking for a poem or song. Lines on a battlefield make less sense when given the facial clues. You can have teeth in battle, but nose? Archers would be a good 6th line if their small and weak, but then they probably would be guilty of more friendly fire than T wrote about. So battle is out imo.

    Lines of succession? First would be the oldest...

    I know it's not a song or poem. None of them match the clues, and you said as much.

    So lines of text or lines of succession. But beyond that I'm stumped as to what to look for next in ether.
     
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    Agóreg vae! 'Lines of text' is the warmest anyone's got yet...
     
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    farntfar Ah well.Back to normal

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    ok Pyan.
    So I thought of chapter names.
    A long expected party almost works for teeth but, none of the others.
    Also appendices names don't (and don't all appear in the standard omnibus edition anyway.)
    Maps doesn't work either, or the the first six paragraphs or the opening of the first 6 chapters or the opening of the first chapter of each of the six books.
    So yes, I've got that it takes a little lateral thinking but perhaps more (or perhaps less or anyway different) than I seem capable of.
     
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    hopewrites I'm not jaded, who said that!?

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    I hadn't thought of chapter/ book titles. That might do...
     
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    farntfar Ah well.Back to normal

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    doesn't seem to. But I may be wrong. :)
     
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    hopewrites I'm not jaded, who said that!?

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    Is there an introduction? Hang on where'd i leave my omnibus trilogy...?
     
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    hopewrites I'm not jaded, who said that!?

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    Is it the books?

    The FotR, book one has chapers giving the teeth of the story. The peril.

    Book two talkes about the gathering of the questers and the start of their journey.

    TT
    Books three and four have chapters that vary back and forth between the various quest members.

    RotK
    Book five puts it on the nose as it were. Climaxing the story.

    Book six is the smallest and simplist containing the concluding chapters that wrap up everyones stories.




    Reaching a bit maybe, so I wont be too suprized if im wrong.

    But given that line of thinking *deep breath* if line one is for the teeth, line two has the bite.
     
  9. pyan

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    Ingenious...but incorrect, I'm afraid.

    Clue: The whole of the answer is contained on one page, five consecutive paragraphs...:D
     
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    Well, it seems that I've stalled the thread, so here's the answer: The lips.

    The Fëanorian Letters - Appendix E (i), and the illustration of the Tengwar - RotK

    'the first line is for the teeth' - Series 1 is for the dental series: t, d, etc
    'the second for the lips' - Series 2 for the labials: p,b, etc
    'the third and fourth vary' - Series 3/4 "usually represent aspirated consonants...but might represent other..variations required"
    'the fifth is for the nose' - Grade 5 is for the nasal consonants: n, m, etc
    'the sixth line is for the weakest' - "..most often used for the weakest or 'semi-vocalic' consonants": untrilled "r", etc
     
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    farntfar Ah well.Back to normal

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    Yup! You had us there, Py. You'd better give us another question.

    Personally I have to admit to having scanned that appendix even more than the other ones. (i.e.I jumped straight to appendix F).
    Many of the omnibus editions don't even contain the appendices other than a part of appendix A.
     
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    Try this one:

    Many swords carry names in the tales of JRRT - can you give me the name of a bow?
     
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    Had me on that one too, your greenness. I blew right by that appendix...:rolleyes:

    *Grins at hope, then whistles "innocently", pretending to look at the sky* :D
     
  14. farntfar

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    So It seemed to me that this must be the bow of Beleg Strongbow.
    We learn the name of the bow after his death.

    "and together they laid Beleg in a shallow grave, and placed beside him Belthronding his great bow that was made of black yew wood."
    The Silmarillion. Of Turin Turambar.
     
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    That's the one. A Bow Bell to you, and it's your go...
     
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    Thanks Py.

    Try this bit of nonsense verse I just made.

    If one might hold
    and one might bite
    and one might howl
    on a moonlit night

    There’s one who holds them
    in his sway.
    Might that one
    one day fly away
    if once he changed to
    the final form
    that those named thus
    reach as the norm.


    3 of one and one of another. Can you tell what they are?
     
  17. farntfar

    farntfar Ah well.Back to normal

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    Yes. Another one of my stupid questions. I know.
    So a bit of added help.

    "The one" is well known as being a fun guy to be with. (Or more properly, it seems, that's his wife.)
     
  18. hopewrites

    hopewrites I'm not jaded, who said that!?

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    No quotes, so this doesnt count, and anyone willing to find the quotes can have the honor... But all I can think is what's his face the wearbear. Because your clues make me think wearwolf. But there arent any. There's the skin changer whose other form is a bear, but he doesnt have a wife. Unless you count the bees.

    As far as fun wives go there's Tom Bombadill's, and I think I remember Farmer Maggot's wife discribed as jolly.

    Oh and Sam's wife.

    But I cant see them as being one of something with three of another that fit with your clues.
     
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    farntfar Ah well.Back to normal

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    Hope you are so close with 2 separate bits of your answer.

    One of the wives is correct.
    And their names may be as important as who they are.
     
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    All four have been inspiring fear for years.
     
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