What kind of society would this be?

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Konig15

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It seems to me that in a lot of Sci-fi, societies must be either very good or very bad. I don't like that very much. I really like reading fanfiction where the Galatic Empire in Star Wars are presented as the good guys, because in a very real sense they were, except at the top. So I'm writing a society that I'm not sure is either good or bad because I infused it with both. Tell me what you think:

This is America circa 2076:
There is no pretention to harmonous racial or ethnic co-existence. The theory that dominates most, if not all, of the world concerns the ethnic and the citizens. As Carlos Mencia remarked, "oh, I'm Mexican-American, but you White <curse word> get to be American" to which my main character Charlotte would reply: <curse word> straight. All white groups, with notable excpetions are believed to have come together to form the American ethnic group, hereafter refered to a Gringos.

America is soley the possession of the Gringos. Immingrants, non-assimilating whites like the Amish, and Jews (though all the Jews have left by this time) and all people of color are 'merely' citizens. However, this is not quite as stable as it is in our time because genetic reconstruction allows a person to change their race, sex, or other things. The belief among whites is that if a colored person wants to truly be American, they will cut all ties with Africa, India, whatever and 'assimilate.' People who do this are called blancharos, a spanglish insult. Charlotte is actually of blancharo decent, in this case Latino, but considers herself nothing but white. There is some discrimination against blancharos in public, and while the authorities will often overlook discrimation for colored people, as they are a foreign presence which refuses to assimilate, but blancharos have done everything possible to become American. Nonetheless, citizenship is given at birth to all people and every one vote in free and fair elections.

People of color, if they prove themselves loyal and more American than the Americans can achieve great power. On of Charlotte's black friend has a father who is a very influential priest and blacks run several (mostly white)towns in the story. Most people of color are respected, litterally as seperate but equal. Nonetheless there is a general contempt for blacks, and Charlotte represetns a rather mainstream position that that balcks have never had a 'real' civilization, except for Ethiopia, but that blacks should return to Africa and build one and other peoples, particularly whites, should 'kick them in the <curse word> until they do.' It bears mention that these people place a high emphasis on the individual and while say contempt for blacks and praise for Germans is appropriate at first, it may not be founded in a particular member of that group. And in the end, evaluation must be based on merit. Charlotte, despite what she said earlier, respects George Washington Carver and a black general named Wild Bill Falstaff who destroyed Mexico City, among others.

Colored people are subject to differences, some of which are quite positive. First, because they are not 'real Americans' any war the U.S. finds itself in is not their responsibility. They are immune from the draft, or any other forced labor. They are subject to rationing and travel restrictions that Gringo are however. They have a different tax structure, a base 15% income is paid to the government. Whites at 30 must pay 75%, unless they are married, 65% (reduction of 10%), have 1 child, 55% (reuction of 20%) 2 children 35 (reduction of 20%) and three children 15% (reduction of 20%.) This is a society that is built around the idea that civilization functions only if the people work breed and fight. Having chidren is critical. Lastly, colored people can, without much trouble have the government pay for their blanching, or be paid an average years yage to go their country/continent of ancestory and "Forge your destiny elsewhere."

Racial segregation is not permited at all in government fascilities, and these are watched closely. In non-governmental affairs, there are few laws. Saftey laws are enforced, but people can be hired/fired at will for any reason including race, religion, ancestery, whatever. No one feels the government has any business stopping this even if they feel it is wrong. Protests are allowed as long as they do not disrupt lawful activity. That is to say Rosa Parks would get the <curse word> beat out of her for resisting a lawful command, though King's boycott would have been fine. Striking, spiting, throwing things at an officer in the military or law enforcement gives that officer the right to kill the assailant on the spot. Police in particular are carefully watched with this and must wear micro cameras at all times. If it is determined the officer was not accosted or deliberately provoked the assailant, the officer is either put to death or sentenced to life on a penal colony, I haven't decided if this is the one exception to the no death penalty matra of this society. Gun ownership is widespread and encourged and all student go through basic training in luie of Gym. Basically, the people have guns, the cops have bigger guns and the military has the biggest guns. Bad kids in school are not tolerated, especially in the inner city, where it is feared they will corrupt the minds of other colored kids. The bad kids are sent to special boarding schools were they are isolated and humiliated into submission.

The death penalty is abolished in most cases, though it is constitutionaly reserved for murder, rape, pediophillic crimes and treason. Instead inmates are sent to penal colonies were they are properly housed, fed and clothed but they work 12 hours a day, defraying the cost of housing them. The phillosophy is that punishment is not a deternent, reform is impossible because they don't WANT to reform and simply warehousing them, like we do now, is wasteful. They need to be removed and the government should pay as little as possible for it. If an inmate shows good behavior and ONLY if they show good behavior, are they allowed to earn a GED, learn a trade, that sort of thing.

In foreign policy, while coloreds existing in America in 2053 are grandfathered in, coloreds are not permited to set foot in the U.S. unless they are diplomatic personel, students (who must return home immediately after graduation) or tourists. The same is true of White ethnic groups except immigration is allowed, on the grouds that whites need no extra help to assimilate. If a colored person wishes to immigrate and has skills the government wants, the government will pay for their blanching. Now there is a differnce between Anglo blanching and Continental blanching. In Contenintal the immigrant must take a full name that is acceptable to the culture he's moving to, both first and last. In Anglo, especially American tradition only the first name needs be changed, so the name has some ethnic flavor, like Bronsky or Torres, etc. This also has the unwanted side effect of making discrimination against blancharos a little easier.

Americans are exceedingly brutal at war, but not as much as some. They have no porblem torturing POWs for information, but ONLY if they have info. They might also make POWs work on military projects and break the legs of escapees, but otherwise they follow Geneva III. Generva IV is another matter: all major powers have used chemical weapons, namely VX, to wipe out entire cities that resist them and they don't want to clear out. As far they are concerned, fortifing a city makes anyone in there a viable target. Americans have no qualms using ethnic cleasing, such as their plans to ethnically clease Tibet so after the war with China Tibet could be free again. They are willing to commit genocide, but in Charlotte's words: "Genocide is NEVER a shoot first measure."

Sexuality is complicated because unlike the Draka series, the sexual perversions are not indicative of a degenerate society, but a response to changing technology. Homosexuality can now be 'cured' via reconstruction. Hermephrodites and people who lose their gentals can be restored. All people are expected to marry, though interracial couplings are encouraged by Uncle Sam, they are not popular because Whites fear 'contamination' and colored people have to get their children blanched if the other parent is white (this includes blancharos). Bisexuality is permitted ONLY either before marriage or with the other partners written consent and adultery is punished by law. There are no no-fault divorces. Now there are two darksides to reconstruction, the first being that Transexualism can go the full monty, and such people are called snips. There is a group called the Tiresian Society that like the seer of old change sex every five to seven years. It is not unheard of that two children will have the same parents, but have a differnt mommy and daddy. This is horrifying to normal people. Commited snips HATE these 'vistors' and usually seek to live a normal life as their chosen sex.

Then there's incest, yes incest, because recontruction makes it possible to have healthy offspring with close relatives. In 2066, a large group of brother-sister couples marched on Washington, many with their children in tow, get federal recognition of their status. Unfortunately for them, a rumor spread that parent-grown child couples were among them and the police went to TOWN. Nonetheless, even in more liberal states where marrige between brother and sister was recognized, many went through the trouble of divorceing each other as siblings so they could be married properly. I don't know where my sympathies lie on this one. Charlotte considers incest not for her and figures it's OK to get snipped, until your first child. If you're that babie's momma you stay a woman forever.

There's a really dark undertone to this because there's a fear of Rohowa. In our time it that's a term racists use to describe all white people getting together and wiping out the coloreds. In Charlotte's time it describes a theoretical conflict where one ethnic group unites all humanity by killing all other ethnic groups. Ein Volk, Ein Fuerer, Ein Reich, that is how humanity will will be united so it may go into space and "rape the stars" (there's more than a little misanthorpy going on here).

Whites in general have both a persecution complex and and inferiority complex. They are teriffied over being "overrun" by colored people in their own lands, because in the long term it means they will be persucuted like Jews and burned in barns like Armenians, not because colored people are bad, but that's what human beings do to each other. The Gemans weren't bad people, but Hitler or no, one day they were going to get up, be tired of looking at the Jews, and kill them. This has a LOT to do with "Killer Ape Theory" and what they call the "Cain Effect", whereby the murderous brother kills the peaceful one and goes on to perpetuate the Human race while the peace loving Abel does not. For this reason people of color refer to whites are 'bonobos' peaceful chimps that have to hide from their aggressive cousins, because the chimps will rape and murder them and they don't have any means to fight back. Charlotte herself has killed thousands in establishing herself as a hero, and still subconsiously considers herself 'rape bait' for degenate males of all colors, mostly black. I'm not saying that's fair, and even Charlotte knows it's not fair, but it's instilled in her that colored people naturally hate her because she's not of their race and she naturally hates colored people because they're not of her race, and it's pointless to pretend it will ever be otherwise.

Anyway, that's the idea. I have no idea what this is, do you?
 
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Since you are requesting comments, I've put your societal thoughts over here in the critiques section where other members may post their views on your work.

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I suppose the thing that I would think of when reading a description like this is, how has the society of today behaved, reacted and interacted to such a state that it has transformed into the one you have suggested. What sorts of not just occasional opinions but wholesale acceptances and shifts of view (or wider use of them) has been necessary to enable such a society to develop. That will surely be one of the biggest drivers in determining the behaviour of the individuals. Though, as per "V for Vendatta" (for example) the tolerance of a regime does not necessarily imply acceptance. Could the current population tolerate your conditions? If not, why not, and what does that mean for those who are present?
 
Well, the society in general is in acceptace of most of this, except many want the snips and bisexuals killed as degenerates. Many, if not most whites want the coloreds to be given a simple chioce: 'assimilate' or leave, without compensation, as happened in Europe.

There are three things that happened in this timeline that makes this possible. One is that Nostradamus' third Antichrist prophesy came true, and there was a 27 year war between Christians and Muslims that destroyed most of Europe. The Muslims were led by the Christian Antichirst, called El-Mahdi and the Chrstians led by the Muslim Antichrist, Dajjal, a Brit whose power and authority were forced on him. Both wanted to wage genocide on each other, each for different reasons, and things came to a head when the Madhi ordered all people in his Caliphate imprint 666 on their forehead, by which they might by or sell. This was EXPLICITLY done to drive the Christians into a genocidal fervor and isolate his more moderate opponents. Dajjal has some powers given to him by the hadiths, but Madhi has powers that would make Nicholae Carpathia crap his pants. Ships and whole armies would disappear without a trace. At one battle in Southern France near Visby, the French general was doing well until he had an anurism so intense it broke the bone and the skin and blood went everywhere, and his subordinates though he'd been shot. He makes all kind of horrid monsters and Nephlim to aid his cause, including an evil clone of Jesus called Isa the Turin Clone by the Christians. This is how the Muslim world can war successfully against the industrail might of India and the West simultainously.

Dajjal is also a nasty sort, rallying the non-muslims behind the swastika as it was a good luck charm to the Buddhists and Hindus and for Europeans it said exactly what they were going to do to the Muslims. God appears to Dajjal and tells him to show some mercy, as many are horrified of the Madhi, but he refuses, promising to kill them all. Dajjal overwrites God. Likewise, Madhi raises Muhammed from the dead, but they soon fall out. Now Muhammed is not my favorite guy, and by modern strandards he was a ruthless desert tyrant, but in his own eyes, and by the standards of his day, he was a noble warrior trying to bring order and justice to an unforgiving desert. Mo did sleep with a 9 year old girl, tis true, BUT she was his favorite wife, and he very much took care of his own. He is sickened to discover the way the Talibani like Madhi treats women in male tyranny. The concept of honor killing literally makes Mo ralf up his lunch. He was trying to stop that crap when he ordered that girls were not to be buried alive. Suicide bombing horrifies him and though he has no love for Christians or Jews, Madhi's wonton genocidal policies make him sick. Even to kill all the adults might be OK but to kill the children as well... Remember, I'm trying to make Mo a man of his day. He cannot stand the hypocricy of Madhi as he keeps the dietary laws and purity rituals perfectly, but acts like a monster. Mohammed actually eats some ham to Madhi's horror to demonstrate that good diet is nothing comparred to good behavior. Madhi drugs him up and brings him out for public appearences.

True to Muslim, Christian and Nostradamusian prophesies, 1/3 of humanity, 2.6 billion die, but Dajjal triumphs in the end, casting Muhammed, Isa, and Madhi into the smoking pit. What isn't usually mentioned in that Muhammed himself tosses himself at the Madhi, declaring whatever God rules on heaven or earth, Madhi defiles. The thousand year kingdom of Christ is metaphorical. We get the worst of both worlds, a pre-mellenialist tribulation and a amellenialist aftermath. This is not ragging on Islam per se, God reveals that it could just have easily been Zoroastrianism or Hindism or anything else under the right circumstances. Dajjal however, continues his very personal vendetta against the Muslims, forming MI-7, a unit desisned to work in countries with little funding for ferreting out crypto-Muslims. In the Middle East as for example, there were 4 million Assyrians at the start of the war, Madhi killed 2 and by war's end there war 10 million.

The only places were Muslims are relatively safe is in America, Canada and the People's Republic of China, though they live in constant fear. Following the 'religion of the Beast' means even secular people want to kill them. Their enclaves, like Inglewood California look like the Warsaw ghetto, only the barbed wire keeps people OUT. This Final Crusade has the same effect the Jewish rebellion had on the Jews, the really nasty types were dead, and the more moderates prevailed, especially ones disavowing Madhi and stating as doctrine that the war was a punishment from Allah for misdeeds committed in His name. Some even hold Dajjal was the REAL Madhi and he will convert to Islam, and the world will convert with him. There's awink and nudge as long as the new Assyrians geniunely apostatize form Islam.

In India, Africa and Indonesia, the oppenents, Muslim and non, came from a similar cultural background, lessening friction and making reapproachment, after mass atrocities, more fessible. In Europe, the Muslims, with the exceptions of Bosniacs were seen as entirely foreign, and for whites, the Final Crusade was also a race war. Democratic governments collapsed in all countries of Europe, Itally and Spain were almost totally depopulated and Armenia was totally exterminated excpet for the diaspora. The mark of the beast is actually a big, BIG phenomena but it's not in the view of this thread. Now, because 150 million Europeans dies and Europe's demographics have been in the read since the 80s, European governments begin a process known as Deucalion project, after the Grek who threw rocks behind him that became man. Using artifical wombs, they began to grow children by the millions, raising in state run orphanages, being given the last name of the sperm donor they cam from. This allowed them to indoctrinate the youth as they wished. In Sweeden's example, the country had seven million at the end of the Crusade, and 39 million by 2077. America was the only white nation and the the only power besides China not to grow these 'tube babies.' This is what allowed many of the attitudes you see to take hold, total indoctrination.

One of the nastiest things Dajjal did was that he refused to allow people plausible deniability. Throughout the war, he built deathcamps and televised their grizzly work always emphasising this was the 'price of victory.' In any other war, this might not have worked, but Madhi both claimed to be the antichrist and had powers beyond human comprehension. People were scared enough to obey any command of Dajjal. Dajjal is widely seen as a just king of the rebuilt British Empire, a man who was offered the crown of mankind and turned it down. Muslims aside he's not a bad ruler, brutal, but not bad, except towards the Dajjalists, who beleive he is the reincarnation of Christ. He simply can't let them go because his power and authority stems from being the 'Sword of Christ.' He is widely seen as the greatest man to have ever walked the earth, behind Jesus. And yes, most of the major denominations signed onto a papal bull issued by Peter the Roman, who was supposed to be the last Pope, that Christians are moraly unconstrained towards Muslims: they may kill them at any time. Mind you this was after the 666 incident.

This is were the paranioa comes from. In the United States, the economy was ruined by the war, and combined with pressing Social Security needs, the government went broke and imposed riunous taxes on the country causing a long depression while the Mexicans got their act together. Many Latins were bitter at being taxed to death to support 'rich old white ladies.' The racial tension from Europe did nothing to help matters. Tensions flared and got worse until 2048 when a Peblicite was held to determine the staus of the Southwest, including California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas. Bleeding Kanas has nothing on what happened next. Latin gangs collectively called Los Vattos, terrorized loyalists, while combinded white, Latin and Black gangs called the Patriots terrorized the seperatists. In the end, with the support of whites who saw better oppurtunity in Mexico, the states of California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas voted to seccede and join Mexico. The President ordered the Border people to stand down and the Mexican army moved in. They recieved flowers in Los Angeles, but did not dare to take San Diego, a major white enclave. Charlotte's family, namely a Latin from Arkansas joined the Marines the day after declareing he had Vattos to kill.

Right wing elements in Congress launched a coup against the president, and hung him on a lampost on Pennsylvannia Avenue with a placard around his neck 'I betrayed my country.' There was a civil war briefly, the northeast and the Pacific coast sided with the Loyalists, committed to letting the Southwest go, and the Midwest and South supporting the Reconstruction Congress. The blacks as a block sides with the Reconstruction block, according to Charlotte, 'not because the liked us (whites), but because they hated the Latins more' Now, the Reconstruction congress would have won anyway, but without that support, by the time they did, the Mexican army would have been in Washington. They quickly crush the Loyalists and institute Long Palement style rule. Thw war lasts until 2053, and by the standards of the day, it was a low causality war, only seven million killed.

Mexico City is destroyed by General Falstaff after Job Worthington, famously "The Butcher" for having killed 200 million Muslims refuses, saying the time for killing is over. Mexico City is evacuated, it's treasures, arts, archieves are taken back to D.C., the city is leveled until not one brick stands atop another and as an attempt at 'reconsilliation' several rivers are temporarily diverted to restore Lake Tenotichlan. 75 million Latinos out of 100 million are stripped of citizenship and tossed across the border, including Charlotte's ancestor Victor, who was decorated in the storming of Vera Cruz. The fact that the 'white Latinos' were among the greatest agitators for seperatism and many whites in California betrayed their country is conveniently ignored. The fate of Mexico and Latin America gets FAR worse at this point, but it's not for this thread. But because of manpower shortages, the Congress offers a no questions asked return policy provided Latins become blanched. Victor jumps on this. Democracy restored in 2060. Colored people 'earn their place' forever in the union, though Charlotte says if half the blacks hadn't left for Africa, they would have ethnically cleansed the country again. Is she right? Who knows.

Part of this is elaborated on in my 'My First Day Back' Story here in the Critque section. So the society is shaken to it's very foundations, not once, but twice. This is in part because they aren't simply getting Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech or Pat Buchanan's doom and gloom, but a real world repudiation, if not of a multiracial society, then most definatel a multicultural one. And basically they want a momcrone society, not because of astetiks, but because they don't want a multicultural society to return. God has for all intents and purposes abandoned them to their fate, which means we and them are in the same boat.
 
Mmm here and there are some mistakes usually spelling, but I'm too lazy to point to them all and I think you can by rereading extract them from the text yourself.
example:
And basically they want a momcrone society, not because of astetiks, but because they don't want a multicultural society to return.
This sentence is a good one to point out some of your weaknesses:
momcrone (???) monochromatic?
astetiks=aesthetics
This two line sentence contains two times: because
This two line sentence contains two times: want
This two line sentence contains two times: society
This two line sentence contains two times: they

Will add more later, because I gotta run...
 
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