6.03: Descent

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Descent

Just starting the thread for 'descent' which will air in...30 hours or so <G>
 

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Sg-1 calls for Jake seeing as there’s a mother ship in orbit…we got Jacob, cutie pie Davis…a really stupid scientist that’s probably gonna die by the first commercial break…they go to investigate, Jonas gets left behind on the teltak.
They think this is the same ship nuby used to kidnap Thor.
Our heroes go on board…they split up to investigate…looking for the computer core…then shield generators. There’s this funny noise in the ship.
Sam and cutie pie go for the computer core, which door is sealed shut (I’m thinking for a very good reason)
Jack and Friesen (stupid scientist) go for the shield generators…jack has the explosives so…he goes to help Sam & cutie pie get in the computer core, leaving friesen alone and…you guessed it….he’s toast. Meets up with some guys in funky oriental clothing (the homeless guy was right…ninjas <G>)
And commercial break 1

Jonas and tealc are on the teltak, talking. Rumor has it that Jonas got to be on sg-1only cause jack didn’t want a Russian. They talk a little…teal’c tells Jonas that it takes jack time to trust folks

Back on the ship, Sam confirms that this is the ship that kidnapped Thor. Sam thinks that thor rewrote the programming…stopping the self-destruct. She thinks Thor sent the ship to earth as a gift after mucking up the computers good enough to ‘steal’ the ship from nuby. Sam calls for ‘dead guy’…no answer. Jack goes to get him.
Sam & Davis heard sounds coming from the intercom.
Jack finds dead guys’ body…he tells Sam & cutie pie to get back to the bridge…nuby’s ninja jaffa shoot Jacob, leaving him for dead…but he’s still alive. (gotta love selmac)
D’oh, they’re gonna crash
‘O’Neill you are approaching earth’s atmosphere’
Yeah, we noticed that

nubys jaffa ring to the teltak…teal’c and Jonas take them out (go alien conspiracy)
the teltak gets attacked, they cant’ ring Sam, jack, Jacob and cutie pie up….so they’re stuck on the ship that’s gonna crash off the coast of Alaska.

Commercial break 2

The crash has been explained as a meteor. No word from any of the allies. Sonar readings suggest that it’s still intact. Sub on the way from pearl harbor. The hatak has pressurized tubes.
Teal’c and Jonas drive to the air port, teal’c reassures Jonas that he’s still got some learning to do
Back to the ship…jack and Jacob are on the peltak, Jacob is hurt, burned and broken collar bone.
Sam gets life support to 50%, enough to keep them alive, but not comfortable. The structural integrity of the ship isn’t so hot. The self-destruct is still set half way through. Sam doesn’t think they should futz with it. She thinks the virus is going to make things worse.
Davis stays with dad and Sam & jack go back to the computer core. They find water in the ship. There’s a hull breech on engineering level. The pressure is flooding them from the inside. Sam & jack are stuck between some closing doors. The water’s rising. It’s up to their waists and cold. Then it’s up over their heads, Jacob can’t get the door open. cutie pie wants to blow it, Jake says the concussion will kill them, CP says they’re dead anyway. We see Sam & jack drowning. Jacob goes ‘Sam, I’m sorry’ (his voice breaks)…commercial break.

Back and…the security protocol’s been erased, the doors open and….they’re fine. Wet, cold and chilly but fine. They hear thor’s voice. Thor’s mind is running the ship. ‘way to go thor’
If they can download thor’s consciousness from the ship, the asgard can download it into a new body. But if they do it, the self-destruct may reactivate. It’s a choice, save thor or save the mother ship…it’s better to have the supreme commander of the asgard fleet owe you one than salvage a ship so….they go for that.

They download thor, which starts the self-destruct again. They have 17 minutes to get out…ok, they can do that. But….there had to be a but…there is a door closed that shouldn’t be. They’re trapped.

And yet another commercial

Jake wants to go to the peltak, jack says no. they’ll figure something out. The only other way out is the glider bay.
They’re gonna take a couple of gliders out. There are forcefields in the way. Jonas tries to get the force field off line so they can get out. Sam is trying to hotwire the way in. Jonas swims his way in to hotwire the force field (yes, more T-shirt action….wet T-shirt no less)
Jonas fixes the force field. There’s this awesome effect where Jonas rings out with tons of water….really awesome
Sam/tealc in one glider, teal’c/Jonas. Jack thanks Jonas for trying (if we don’t survive this, thanks)
They fly the gliders up and out…jack can fly a glider.
They blast out of the water, just as the mother ship explodes. Jacob asks who’s ok. Jack says all members of sg-1 present and accounted for.
He gives Jonas guff for smiling…’it’s my first time in a glider’ jack goes ‘ooh’ then barrel rolls the glider.
They fly off into the horizon.

Next week, frozen.
 

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i didnt' get a good look, one guess is that it's to differentiate the us teams from the russian one???


unlesss i'm totally imaginging things...i 'd swear PdL was wearing a 'seaquest dsv' jumper in his cameos

and i wonder what theyre gonna do with those three jaffa they now have of anubis'????
 

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Originally posted by skydiver
i didnt' get a good look, one guess is that it's to differentiate the us teams from the russian one???
unlesss i'm totally imaginging things...i 'd swear PdL was wearing a 'seaquest dsv' jumper in his cameos
I'd have to check my tapes for the seaQuest uniform idea. I was jumping around my apartment because it was the first cameo I've caught first viewing. (Sure sign that he's just done a couple too many.) ;)

Each time I see the flooding compartment I'm remined of the scene in The Abyss with Ed Harris and the actress with the really long name.

And I hadn't thought of the Russian vs. US thing. I didn't jump to the idea that the patch was part of the Russian deal. For five years they've gone without a big US flag on the uniform. We've been reasoning so long that since they're a covert operation operating inside of NORAD and the AF, they had sanitized uniforms. I was wondering if it was finally the "does it say 'colonel' on my uniform" cure. My other wondering was if it was a commemerative patch for losing Daniel much like the baseball and football teams in the states do. But I wasn't sure that AF units were into that sort of thing.
 

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the patch does look like the air force logo. they have a newer one, white wings on blue...and that's what i think this is.

the abyss chick, mary elizabeth mastrantonio (which i can't spell :) )


and i remembered the scene from abyss as well.

and i was wrong before...jonas needed to turn ON the force field, not turn it off. thats what you get typing as you watch <G>

about the only other real problem i had is that they got over being cold and wet really fast.
if sam was right and it was near freezing, which i think it had to be...they should have succumbed to the water in a matter of minutes, long before they drowned.

but heck, it's tv <G>
 

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Originally posted by skydiver
the patch does look like the air force logo. they have a newer one, white wings on blue...and that's what i think this is.

but heck, it's tv <G>
I'm going to watch the ep on the big TV again and see if I agree with you about the patch. We're obsessing way to much. My first thought when I caught sight of it was: "C***. Another patch for the dress-up fans to go find/buy/make..." Bad enough I haven't located a source for the flight suit liner jackets they use in the green uniform set-up. Now I need more patches!

In the interest of facts, I got my tape out: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. At least TPTB are copying some cool movies this year...

Just a tad fast, drying out. Maybe the air on Goa'uld ships is super low humidity? :D *giggle*
 

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Just wonderin, as a shipper, did Sam or Jack say anything when they were almost drowning?
 

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Originally posted by skydiver

about the only other real problem i had is that they got over being cold and wet really fast.
if sam was right and it was near freezing, which i think it had to be...they should have succumbed to the water in a matter of minutes, long before they drowned.
but heck, it's tv <G>

Good point, also I wonder is Jonas race can be underwater for more time than humans. He was a considerable time changing the crystals under the water. And he only take a deep breath at the beginning of the scene. :rolleyes: But I enjoy the episode it was really good. Love the conversation between Teal'c and Jonas and all the thing with the virus and at the end being Thor's conscience. Really cool.

Krystal :rain:
 

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okay - here's my question -

Now, I love Major Davis, but what the heck was he doing there? Was there an explanation I missed somewhere? the episode seemed to start w/ SG-1. Davis, stupid science guy, and Jacob on the cargo ship ---

I'm not saying that Davis shouldn't have been with them, but I watched the whole episode, and the question I asked myself at the very beginning (as an attentive viewer) was not answered by the end - "Why is Major Davis on this mission with them?"

Of course, we can assume it's b/c it's this brand-spanking new goa'uld (which Davis pronounces really weird) ship and he, as the Pentagon liason, is there to make sure it comes back intact -oooops!

however, I'd like to *know* why he was there (and if I missed the explanation, let me know)

Now, the other thing I found really odd - the ship is falling toward Earth, we go to a commercial, we come back and BANG! we're at the bottom of the ocean? HUH? I mean, I know they said they were gonna fall and hit right there near Alaska, but come on! Ya can't just say that then have 'em be in the ocean after the commerical - WHO WROTE THIS EPISODE? and what were they smoking at the time? I mean, I get that they're a little pressed for time, but FCOL, throw us a bone - let us at least see the ship hit the water or something - that was just a bit more of a stretch than the audience should have had to make. (Now, if this was in there too and my scifi channel just mucked it up - let me know)

Okay - think that's all - really, aside from those two weird things, this was a good episode - and it's ALWAYS good to see Major (Hottie) Davis! (Yeah, we've upgraded his name :naughty:)
 

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As an extention of Lisa's question, did we get ne 'ship in a ship' that some of us had been asking for? Did the writers finally take sum notice of the fans requests? I'm dying to know!
 

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i can only guess that cutie pie was along...i dunno, maybe he heard about mckay and tagged along to check out sam????


maybe showing the crash woulda cost too much??? i dunno. i would have like to have heard about the tsunami caused by it, and the subsequent explosion.

as to the ship...sam and jack didn't say anythind other than a few quips from him about crashing in warmer, then shallower water.

then when they got rescued, sam thanked dad, dad said he didn't do it. jack said that he took back all he was thinking while he was underwater...nothing overt but certainly lotsa room for projecting. <G>

then towards the end when they're trying to hotwire their way into the glider bay, jack puts his hand on sam's back, 'plenty of time' etc.

slightly shippy if you want to project that hard.
 

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Originally posted by skydiver
…a really stupid scientist that’s probably gonna die by the first commercial break…

The moment he opened his mouth we could see his fate was sealed -- just like a red shirt in the original Star Trek series. :)
 

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OK, I like Jonas...but is he gonna have to save the day in every freakn' episode from now on?? Or is it just me?

I too felt cheated that we didn't see the crash scene....

And Thor is downloaded into a computer?? That sounds so familiar for some reason......are we recycling plots now??

OK; off my soapbox now :D
 

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maybe jonas will save the day, maybe he won't....it could be worse, it could be sam saving the day all the time <G>
 

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* Projecting very hard!!!*

Sounds like a cool eppie though. Can't wait to see it, I'm downloading it at the mo!:D
 

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Originally posted by bummer
OK, I like Jonas...but is he gonna have to save the day in every freakn' episode from now on??

I haven't seen S5 yet, but I understand that Jonas has a need to atone for past mistakes. I doubt the writers will let him save the day all the time, but he needed to make a difference to be an accepted part of SG1.

And Corin Nemec has the difficult task of establishing a meaningful character in only one season. MS is a tough act to follow after 5 seasons of work. :)
 

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Yeah, It's kinda annoying with him saving the day all the time, twice in a row is enough. It's better when two of them save the day, or as a group, instead of one character.
 

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okay - gonna almost have to start a rant here --

Jonas didn't really 'save the day,' there were other conflicts along the way that had to be 'saved.' He just happened to 'save the day' at the end of the show - thus being the most memorable.

Sam and Davis yanked Thor out of the computer, Jack and Sam had to fix something (sorry, I don't remember where they'd gone), and Jacob was doing some stuff -- it's not like Jonas did all the work all on his own.

The object of the episode was to retrieve the goa'uld mothership - well, that didn't work out so well, so the mission became - get the hell off the ship and get back to the SGC -- and, as a team, they all had to work together to get off the ship. Jonas didn't get them off all by himself - everyone did something to help get to the 'get off the ship' part.

Ranting? Sure, but only b/c if we're gonna have to hear this 'oh man, not Jonas again' stuff all season, it's gonna get really tired.
 

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With all the people working together on everything the last 2 episodes, it's still Jonas who does or says something miraculous that turns the tide at the crucial moment in the episode.

Well, my problem with it is that I like Jonas, and I liked him in the season opener. But I don't want to have him shoved down my throat as *the* hero of the show all season long in his quest for atonement. I hope he's been 'accepted' as a member of the team now so that we have more 'teamwork' and not so much Jonas dragging their butts outta the fire.
 

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