Stargate The Movie

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So I thought I'd run a competition @ the SGC UK offering DVD's and VHS tapes as the prizes. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that Stargate the movie is out of print i.e. NOT available in the UK.
Blackstar confirmed this saying it is NOT available on DVD or VHS!

You can however obtain a DVD copy of the Extended version (Directors cut) from play 247 (http://www.play247.com) as long as your DVD player can show reigon 1 DVD format.

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Arrr, i wondered where i should go to get the movie. I may go and try them now, always wondered how god they were and how easy it will be to get region 1 disks to work in my computer based dvd player.
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I just ordered it from http://www.video-now.com which seems to be a pretty cheap place to get Region 1 dvds for uk people. No p&p if you order 2 dvds and prices lower than in the UK. Just hope i don't get clobbered with import taxes but i hear if you only order 2 dvds per package you normally do ok.
I also got

The Beach
Notting Hill
Erin Brokinvich
American Beauty
ekk can't remember the other one!!!

Some films are avaliable to buy on dvd that have not even come out on the cinema yet here!!! so unfair.


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Padders,
There is plenty of software out there that will allow you to play reigon 1 DVD's on your PC DVD player.

If any of you are going to buy a DVD player to go with your TV then make ABSOLLUTLEY SURE IT IS CONFIGURED TO ALLOW MULTI-REIGON.

Go here for good prices http://www.scan.co.uk keep an eye on their today only section often good MR DVD players can be found in there, be patient and you will get a bargain.

Gladiator is out on reigon 1 DVD soon, SG-1 the movie is only available on reigon 1

Multi-reigon has massive advantages me thinks

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Padders,
Play247 - have had no problems at all! Both John and I buy from them resonably frequently.... And I'm back just bought SuperNova and pre ordered Gladiator. No Postage if you live in Europe all DVD's sent recorded delivery.

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uh..what do you mean by the terms "region 1","region 2", etc.
 

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DVD's are encoded so that only certain DVD players will be able to translate the signal. Region 1 is basically the US and Canada, Region 2 is pretty much every where else. Although there are more regions, those two are the biggies. The reason studios give for doing this is so that they can put out their movies according to what each individual country allows in the way of rating the episode. Some countries are more lenient towards sex, violence, language, etc. than others.
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Play247 look good just more expensive. My dvd orders have not showed up on the video site yet which is a bit weird, looking into it now.
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Does that mean that with a DVD-CD drive you could run region 2 if you have the right software or is that information encoded in the drive itself?
 

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Ok.. this is how it works I think, mything may correct me (and sime :) )
1) DVD in computer.

Not sure about hardware decoding ie if you have a special dvd decoder. You may need to do some "soldering" but not sure:

Software decoding, the norm. All you need to do is get multi region software decoding. Get at most dvd sites and you can then run any region dvd.

2) DVD players for TV.

IN ENGLAND:

You buy a dvd player. Some dvd players can then be modded to run region 1 dvds by just entering an unlock code using a controller. Some dvd players come multi region when you buy them and some you need to install a chip which lots of companies will do for about £40.

In US.

Mything suggests this may not work in the US because of the difference between the two types of tv signal - PAL and NYSTC (hope that is right name). I have never heard of it being a problem here and I think it will not be because i do not think DVD uses these signals and it is only video players that do although i am NOT sure. It does work in the UK though so either out tv's are different and play american formats (although they don't when we try and run videos) or our dvd players run both.

That may be it.. dvd players may be designed to work on both PAL and NYSTC system.

Hope that helps.

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I maybe wrong, but I was under the impression that DVDs are also encoded using either PAL or NTSC. There are some other encoding formats out there, but I can't remember right now what they are. I believe that this has to do with signal frequency but I'm, again, not sure.
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I agree it makes sense however why then do some dvd players in the uk in which you just add a simple code to them then play region 1 dvds.
Arrggggggghhhhhhhhh.. i know...

It is not the DVD that is PAL or NYSTC it is the DVD PLAYER.

Thus a region 1 dvd or a region 2 dvd will work on a british dvd player connected to a british tv.

A US dvd plater with a region 1 or region 2 dvd will work on a US tv.

It is not the region of the dvd disc that matters as to what type of TV you can play it but the dvd player. Thus a dvd player works just like a video and needs to be connected to the write tv but the region of the disk has nothing to do with if the playback will be pal or nystc.

make sense? i think so.

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You're forgetting that I could have a multi-region DVD player here in the US, but if my TV wasn't also multi-region I still wouldn't get a viewable signal from anything that wasn't Region 1. <G>
I've sent NTSC tapes to people overseas who have VCRs that play both PAL and NTSC, however they couldn't view them because their TV was also not compatible.

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Yeah i get that..
but video's are recorded in either PAL or NYSTC i don't think DVDs are done this way. I think the DVD player takes the digital information and then turns it into PAL or NYSTC. Thus A region 1 and a region 2 dvd disk are identical except they have a tiny little bit of info that says "only play if dvd player is region x)

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That certainly answer my questions (huh?). :)
What I really want to know is if I order DVD's from a uk site will it work on my computer or will have I wasted my hard earned dollars (pounds,yen,etc.) ?????
 

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Well that started a conversation :)
There would appear to be a bit of confusion, allow me to gibber technical.

Most countries around the World use one of
three main television broadcast Standards.

These three main standards are NTSC, PAL and SECAM. However, each standard is incompatible with the other... That's standards for you :)

For example, a video recording made in the UK could not be played on US standard VCR's or shown on the TV and the same goes for DVD's.

DVD's are are however also encoded with in a reigon format numbered 1 - 6 where 1 is USA and 2 the UK the remainder are for the rest of the world.

Now it is important to understand that with the progress of electronics a great deal of videos and TV's are now capable of understanding both PAL & NTSC formats and in some cases SECAM.

For Example I have a TV and Video bought in the UK and they run as PAL by default however the video recorder plays NTSC tapes and the TV displays them as they have the capability (Check your manuals yours may be compatible)

My DVD Player is infact NTSC but because my TV recognises that format I can see pictures ok (It was also £40 cheaper then the PAL version). The DVD player is also a Multi reigon player and bought as such. This enables me to change reigon with the remote @ will.

If you have a DVD player in your PC you can obtain software that will decode any reigon format you just need to surf.

The TV standards are as follows: -

The first colour TV broadcast system was implemented in the United States in 1953. This was based on the NTSC (National Television System Committee) standard. NTSC is used by many countries on the American continent as well as many Asian countries including Japan.

NTSC runs on 525 lines/frame.

SYSTEM NTSC M
Lines/Field 525/60
Horizantal Frequency 15.734 kHz
Vertical Frequency 60 Hz
Colour Subcarrier Frequency 3.579545 mHz
Video Bandwidth 4.2 mHz
Sound Carrier 4.5 mHz

The PAL (Phase Alternating Line) standard was introduced in the early 1960's and implemented in most countries except for France.The PAL standard utilises a wider channel bandwidth than NTSC which allows for better picture quality. PAL runs on 625 lines/frame.

SYSTEM PAL B,G,H PAL I PAL D PAL N PAL M
Line/Field 625/50 625/50 625/50 625/50 525/60
Horizontal Frequency 15.625 kHz 15.625 kHz 15.625 kHz 15.625 kHz 15.750 kHz
Vertical Frequency 50 Hz 50 Hz 50 Hz 50 Hz 60 Hz
Colour Sub Carrier Frequency 4.433618 MHz 4.433618 MHz 4.433618 MHz 3.582056 MHz 3.575611 MHz
Video Bandwidth 5.0 MHz 5.5 MHz 6.0 MHz 4.2 MHz 4.2 MHz
Sound Carrier 5.5 MHz 6.0 MHz 6.5 MHz 4.5 MHz 4.5 MHz

The SECAM (Sequential Couleur Avec Memoire or Sequential Colour with Memory) standard was introduced in the early 1960's and implemented in France. SECAM uses the same bandwidth as PAL but transmits the colour information sequentially.
SECAM runs on 625 lines/frame.

SYSTEM SECAM B,G,H SECAM D,K,K1,L
Line/Field 625/50 625/50
Horizontal Frequency 15.625 kHz 15.625 kHz
Vertical Frequency 50 Hz 50 Hz
Video Bandwidth 5.0 MHz 6.0 MHz
Sound Carrier 5.5 MHz 6.5 MHz

Live in the UK - For TV buy a PAL Multi region DVD player.

UK - PC - Buy a Multi reigon system or Get the software off the net (won't be as fast as hardware)

Live in US same but NTSC rather than PAL for the TV.

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ok i think that was where i was coming from...
but...

say you have a TV that only understands PAL and you buy a DVD player that only "outputs" PAL, it will still play Region 1 DVDs (if it is multi region)

What I am saying is that there is a difference between DVD media and videos. Videos are recorded in the format they were recorded in be it PAL, NYSC whatever whereas DVDs are not (being digital)?

Is that the case?

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Thank you sime. padders, dvd's are not only encoded by region but by color system (NTSC, PAL, or SECAM).
Straight out of my owner's manual.

This player conforms to the NTSC color system. You cannot play discs recorded in other color systems such as PAL or SECAM.

Then it goes on to explain the Region thing. I can play Region 1 or DVDs labeled ALL.

Trying to find where the TV manual is to see what formats it supports.

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