4.06: Fear The Walking Dead - Just in Case

Naomi and the Dead (Photo by Richard Foreman Jr/AMC)

Strand wrestles with Madison's decisions; things take an unexpected turn at the Stadium.

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The twisted ending leaves me even more confused about surviving cast members. Naomi was dead but tuns up alive for an exceptionally brief reunion with John (assuming Alicia's shot hit its mark).
Does that mean Madison, suspected to be dead, is also among the living? Despite a 50-50 chance of making a correct call, I can't even guess.
I suppose I'll need to stay tuned.

The gunfighter has arrived. I knew John's shooting skills were excellent from performance he put up on shooting the dead in the ditch, but cutting man's finger off with one hip shot puts him right at the legendary category. If he finds the Hollywood's endless supply of ammo, he's golden for conquering the Wasted West from the dead.

It's the finding bit that's problematic with the Vulture crews going around cleaning the places from anything usable, which is a bit strange, because if they're after everything, there must be plenty of junkyards in the Texas to clean out rather than unscrewing hinges and door bells from the abandoned petrol station. As a strategy to create a land barrier with no loot around the Vulture main camp is verging on the ludicrous scale. There simply is too much stuff around and not enough of living to share. The dead don't care for things. They have no need for anything other then flesh to satisfy their hunger.

Speaking of which, Naomi surely pulled a card out from her hat with the MRE's, seeds and other supplies. When she handed that receipt to Maddie I though it was going to be a Vulture map instead of a FEMA shelter. It's the reason why she is so hesitant to talk about the past as some of might remember the infamous allegations of the US FEMA shelters stacked with coffins and alledegly having inside the places concentration camps. At the outbreak of a zombie apocalypse it would be the last place I'd ever want to end in as it would be a nightmare to be in at the outbreak of the dead.

Just think about all those dead that the Authorities would be wheeling in and separating in their own pens. At the outbreak you're going be so effed up, if you are one of the living locked in the same place. After the outbreak, FEMA camps would the also the last place I would go for a scavenging trip for the same reasons I wouldn't end there in the beginning. Those places are like the ultimate perversion in the long line on bad places humans have created. With each generation things just get worse. Not better.

I also believe that if she had told JC that she was a FEMA nurse, he would have understood. I think he would have loved her and not condamned her because of the history. Naomi is not a coward that Strand identified her being. She's just broken woman.

REBerg said:

(assuming Alicia's shot hit its mark).

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He dropped quickly. So I guess that round did the job and bounced inside him instead of going through all the way. If it's inside, he's going to have a hard time on surviving the hit. In the long run of TWD guns Alicia had all the modern accessories in her toy. Some that only came out last year. Where did she find that gun?

ctg said:

In the long run of TWD guns Alicia had all the modern accessories in her toy. Some that only came out last year. Where did she find that gun?

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Oh, no! Reality rears its ugly head.

My guess is that Alicia was aiming for Naomi\Laura but I could be wrong.

If Madeline is alive, what keeps them from uniting forces? Nick is dead so he's not going to murder their important people.

They've started that flash-back, jump forward, two steps to the side, do the Timewarp business that spoilt The Walking Dead for me. I have no idea what is going on now and it is too confusing, but the SWAT vehicle is parked just around the corner, so if there is going to be another shoot-out......

John is dead - If John isn't dead then he would be play-acting dead. Not only did Alicia's expression and demeanour say otherwise, but I can't see what acting dead would achieve. If it were part of some very detailed plan, then they wouldn't have been surprised at John and Morgan turning up, and certainly wouldn't need to act while no one was watching them.

Alicia hadn't given any impression that she hates Naomi before. She had said Naomi and Madison "must be dead" at the stadium. Overall good episode but again the main series style jumping back and forth creates confusion. Just let the story proceed rather than surprising us about who doesn't like who etc. Is there any reason at all not to have just gone through all the stadium storyline first? All I can see is it is for cheap surprises. That said again there was some good stuff in there.

Judderman said:

Is there any reason at all not to have just gone through all the stadium storyline first? All I can see is it is for cheap surprises.

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Well, there is either Madeline is dead or then she's might be incapable of acting on the frontline, doing a revenge mission. She might not even want to take the action, if they're completely breaking the mould. We don't know but I doubt they would have hired John's actor for just a couple of episodes. The wound might not be lethal. All we know is that he went down.

If Alicia would have blasted her with the 40 mm grenade launcher, it would have been somewhat hilarious to see the comedy of carnage happening in the next episode. Thing is, tactically their positions make no sense. You just get a lot of zombies with the way they're facing each other.

I like the time jump, and I am glad we did not spend 3 or 4 shows at the stadium or on a family reunion. At this point it looks like the time line could merge. I would like to see on the walking dead a 20 year time jump.

I though it was odd that Strand and co all went out in to the open together when they saw Morgan arriving. Not worrying that something wasn't right about the situation.
Well, despite their error, it will be a surprise if most of the main characters are gunned down next episode..

I ignore that stuff or I could not watch the show. If you live in a world ruled by the law of the jungle would you stop for a women in the middle of the road and all of your crew get out and run up to her? Or would you sit in your strong hold and let some group sit out side and wait for you to starve as they eat?

grip junky said:

If you live in a world ruled by the law of the jungle would you stop for a women in the middle of the road and all of your crew get out and run up to her? Or would you sit in your strong hold and let some group sit out side and wait for you to starve as they eat?

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Difficult questions and they cannot just be answered without knowing the whole situation. There are a lot of situations, where camping could do well, like for example John's fishing hut. Two years he sat in it, getting little soft in his head as he contemplated was he a good or bad person. Fear and TWD crews has been in various road incident. One, which is most famous for introducing Jesus to the crew and another that brought Gabriel out from his church.

In the Fear the encounters with people has almost always ended in some sort of clash, because they cannot live in peace for some reason. You would think that daily disposing the dead would be enough of death for a lifetime, but maybe the biggest reason is that the humans cannot abandon violence. It's been part of for 170 000 years, if not longer.

I hope they listen Morgan's bollocking, because he has seen the worst of it, lived in it and he doesn't want to be any more part of the groups that cannot handle the situation. The best case for Fear's sake is if they can find something in common so that the fire fight doesn't start, because it won't be good for anyone.

Sorry, I know a lot of you are writers here I am not one of them. I was talking about the vultures and the stadium. John had the best digs on any of the fear or walking dead shows. Some where out of the way with 2 to 6 person team, that to me seems more sustainable than trying to start a town. The vultures ways would never work with someone like Rick, Negan or Maggie. I like Morgan, he is a great yin and yang, he wants peace but when it comes to it he will kill again. That is the world they live in.

Apologies for misunderstanding.

Fear the Walking Dead fans suspecting Madison Clark's imminent death are getting glimmers of hope from Victor Strand actor Colman Domingo.

The actor caught with ComicBook.com for an exclusive interview at Walker Stalker Con in Nashville, Tennessee, where Domingo promised the future for Madison might not be as dark as fans are suspecting. Madison, who has been with the show since its first episode, has not appeared in a single scene labeled as "NOW" but only the earlier timeline labeled as "BEFORE." Still, Domingo promises "hope."

"A little hope for Madison?" Domingo said. "There's a lot of hope for Madison! Madison is such a compelling, interesting, strong, ferocious character. You never know. There's some speculation. They don't know what's going on because we haven't seen her in the new timeline. Is she kidnapped? Did she runaway? Is she holed up somewhere in a basement? You have no idea."

Fear the Walking Dead does have a history of splitting the character up only to find ways to bring them back together. Such moves have been common through its earlier seasons. The speculation, however, is fueled by Alicia and Nick's relentless desire to take down the Vultures who had previous been eyeing the baseball stadium.

"That's why I love the speculation because you just never know," Domingo said. "We're constantly just messing with your mind. It just keeps you nervous and keeps you in tuned. But, also, that's the reality. Let's say we were all together. You may go off sometime and do something else! And they, 'Hey.' It's interesting to see how we all come back together."

Whether or not Madison makes it out of the baseball stadium alive or beyond, Domingo does promise at least a bit more depth in the relationship between his Strand character and Dickens' former guidance counselor.

"I saw a few more episodes and I think you're gonna see a little more Stradison," Domingo said. "They have a deep, deep bond, and I think it just gets deeper and deeper. There's some things that are gonna happen in the episodes that I think are challenging everybody but it just goes very deep with Madison."

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'Fear The Walking Dead': Colman Domingo Teases Madison's Fate

I've my own theory, the vultures attacked, Madison and Naomi got separated from the others, left behind surrended by walkers with no visible escape. Alicia and Nick thinking their mum is dead are hell bend on revenge.
The vultures extracted Madison and Naomi, hold Madison as hostage in order to make Naomi work for them.

I hope John isn't dead

nixie said:

I've my own theory, the vultures attacked, Madison and Naomi got separated from the others, left behind surrended by walkers with no visible escape. Alicia and Nick thinking their mum is dead are hell bend on revenge.

The vultures extracted Madison and Naomi, hold Madison as hostage in order to make Naomi work for them.

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Very good theory. Next week episode will be running at the same time with the States. So you'll be able to comment on real-time and not running week late. I don't know if they'll run it as two episode mid-season finale, but I think you're closest to one that's going to happen. John isn't dead but there might be a fire-fight with Alicia in the middle as Vultures might want to try to get Naomi back if they understand her value.