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Let's say, for the sake of argument that Professor Tolkien had written something different with similar cultural and literary impact. Now let's forget about what form that might have taken. We'll just place a pin firmly into that piece and wilfully suspend disbelief in that in order to engage the following debate:

If a new, skilled, modern fantasy writer were to conceive of Arda, the Children of Illuvatar, the Valar, the Maiar, Morgoth, the Silmarils, Feanor, Sauron, Celebrimbor and the Rings of Power etc etc plus the key endgame narratives of The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings remaining the same (well, the key plot points anyway); what differences do we think we would see?
Where in time would a modern writer commence his/her story? How many novels would the series contain?
 
It would be in close third from the POV of Frodo, a hard-nosed recovering alcoholic seeking the truth behind the rise of the mysterious Cult of Morgoth. Along the way he must rescue his love interest, Samwise. Each chapter ends on the cliffhanger of near capture by the Nazgul.
 
I would think that The Lord of the Rings would be first person present like The Hobbit except with head hopping each chapter. It also would likely contain periods. No more eight complex sentences combined with conjunctions into four compound sentences joined into one with semicolons. Also, Sting would be a Vorpal blade. Chinspinner is right about Samwise being Frodo's love interest.
 
"It also would likely contain periods." That's gross. Why would the writer make a plot point out of the female character's menstrual cycles?
 
"It also would likely contain periods." That's gross. Why would the writer make a plot point out of the female character's menstrual cycles?
Full stops. Period was the name before the British forgot. Since "stop" ended lines in telegraphs, I thought Tolkien mistakenly believed that Full Stops were really big stops that could only be used at the end of paragraphs. Hence the half-page sentences.
 
what differences do we think we would see?
Where in time would a modern writer commence his/her story? How many novels would the series contain?

As a modern novel, it would probably follow closest to George R R Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire in terms of structure - certainly to some degree. By that I mean start with a small number of POV characters, then gradually expands as the story progresses. Then begins to contract as it comes to a close.

And would definitely require more pages!
 
Legolas would be black, and possibly transgender. Arragorn would be bi-sexual and torn between a Frodo and Arwen love triangle while Sam Gamgee wears spectacles and is a science geek who secretly loves Frodo. Boromir would have to lose the beard, because they are offensive to feminists. Gandalf, being old and kindly, can keep his. Dwarves would be humans who have dwarfism conditions, because otherwise they might be offensive to short people. They too would be clean shaven.

Most of the fight scenes could be cut out and replaced with mature discussion about the situation, ending with a final meeting with Sauron, where Frodo presents the case that the rings are dangerous and shouldn't be used by anyone. Sauron sees the error of his ways, and after a period of meditation and yoga exercises, hands the ring of power to Theresa May, who promises not to use it against the poor people of not-so-Great Britain.

Obviously there is potential for a sequel, film rights and suing people for libel.
 
Legolas would be black, and possibly transgender. Arragorn would be bi-sexual and torn between a Frodo and Arwen love triangle while Sam Gamgee wears spectacles and is a science geek who secretly loves Frodo. Boromir would have to lose the beard, because they are offensive to feminists. Gandalf, being old and kindly, can keep his. Dwarves would be humans who have dwarfism conditions, because otherwise they might be offensive to short people. They too would be clean shaven.

Most of the fight scenes could be cut out and replaced with mature discussion about the situation, ending with a final meeting with Sauron, where Frodo presents the case that the rings are dangerous and shouldn't be used by anyone. Sauron sees the error of his ways, and after a period of meditation and yoga exercises, hands the ring of power to Theresa May, who promises not to use it against the poor people of not-so-Great Britain.

Obviously there is potential for a sequel, film rights and suing people for libel.

What have I done?!!!!
 
The One Ring hocked, swarming cities of Orcs 'n Gorblins, Gandalf living in homeless shelter, Hobbits get bit roles in movies exploiting midgets... uhm... Nazguls as security guards at gladatorial fight rings, Elves, Dwarves selling magic blades at flea markets. Some teenagers find the ring and goofy shenanigans result in endless sequels..* (
 
I'll make a reasonably serious effort to respond to the invitation in the first posting.

1.The whole matter of languages would be different. I suspect you cannot get an education now such as Prof. Tolkien had. But language were a huge element in Tolkien's mental world, amounting to more than just inventing celeb to mean "silver" etc. There's much less emphasis on grammar in school instruction now, so the writer's imagination would not have had that experience. Those who have explored Tolkien's private papers on his invented languages will especially know what I am referring to. The modern writer might invent names, common nouns, etc. but these would not have the depth of Tolkien's. Tolkien found it natural to write poems in existing forms, use poetic diction, and to employ rhyme. It seems those now are regarded as old-fashioned and perhaps suspicious, "inauthentic."

2.Our modern writer would not know ancient and medieval literature in the original languages--not, anyway, to the degree that Tolkien did; and if he or she did know ancient and medieval languages, would not have explored them with the sense of original research that Tolkien experienced. That would affect the imagining of Middle-earth. Tolkien was a world-class scholar as regards Beowulf, the Saga of the Volsungs, etc. His imagination was piqued by the textual issues in these. Those are not such fresh topics now.

3.The writer would not be a World War I veteran. That had a huge impact on Tolkien's imagination, e.g. the Dead Marshes. Written today, we would get a long series of books in which the violent scenes were rendered in a much more close up manner. But Tolkien knew about real violence and suffering in a different way than the goremongers do.

4.The writer would not have grown up with the "naive" but deep patriotism that was part of Tolkien's culture. A modern writer grows up in a culture in which globalism is the default agenda of the pundits, politicians, Socially Conscious writers, etc. Is it conceivable that a modern writer would give us the Scouring of the Shire--which was completely amputated from the screen treatment? In Tolkien's original imaginative writings, at least, there were major connections between these ancient cities and locations in our own world.

5.A huge matter is that the writer would almost certainly not have grown up as a walker. Tolkien or one of his friends commented somewhere about how the private automobile etc. so greatly changed the experience of distance. People talk a lot now about valuing nature, and sometimes even take vacations in national parks and so on. They are not so likely to have daily rambles along rural paths, etc. These rambles naturally lent themselves to walking songs, etc. "The road goes ever on." But tell me when was the last time you heard someone walking along with hands in pocket whistling a tune.

6.Tolkien grew up not expecting government to do a lot for himself or anyone else. But now it's thought that government is there to "do things for" people. We as a culture obsess lately about "equality." Tolkien was more concerned about freedom. I don't think a modern writer is likely to have the trust that Tolkien evidently did have for the capacity of ordinary folk to look after themselves. His brother became a market gardener--sturdily independent so far as I know. A modern writer may hardly believe that such a thing is really possible, and his or her treatment of such an arrangement would probably be less heartfelt than Tolkien's.

7.In general people now are conditioned to "care about" a host of persons and things. These are often rather abstract. Tolkien knew the names of the wild flowers that grew where he lived. Who except hobbyists do, now? But that is part of his way of imagining.

8.Tolkien believed that reality is hierarchical. He believed that you explain a thing's being in terms of what is greater than itself (teleologically)--all the way up to Eru. A writer growing up in our time is taught to explain a thing in terms of what is less than itself, hence the ubiquity of the formulation "X is really nothing but Y." Our thoughts and emotions are really dependent on biology, biology really depends on chemistry, chemistry really depends on physics, i.e. the personal is less basic than the impersonal. That is very different from what Tolkien not just assumed for the sake of writing fantasy but really believed.

9.Feminism, modern social life, etc. have about killed the kind of exclusive, romantic love that Tolkien really believed in, experienced, and suggested in his writing. I don't suppose a modern writer would be likely to imagine Tolkien's Beren and Lύthien, yet that myth was one of the core elements of his imaginarium. True, a modern writer might have these two find each other: the "love of my life" thing. But the other would not have been the only love of their lives. Moderns' discomfort with Tolkien's imagination come to the surface in snide remarks about tapestry-weaving women, etc.

10.Tolkien believed in natural law or the doctrine of objective value (see his friend Lewis's Abolition of Man lectures at the University of Durham). He is very far indeed from our mainstream culture's scientism, which looks to "science" to give us the answers to what we should do (and which true science never can do, dealing as it does with observations of what is, not with oughts).

11.There are horrors in Tolkien's book, but the descriptions are generally brief and evocative, rather than detailed. For nearly 50 years horror fiction has emphasized "graphic" passages, and I suppose the Rings, written today, would do so.

12.A big difference that we can hardly conceive is that Tolkien's imagination was shaped by the written word plus the natural world. A modern writer's imagination will have been shaped to some extent, perhaps a very great extent, by television, movies, games, etc., in which the imaginary scene is done for the consumer and all the consumer has to do is let it wash over him or her. That is not how Tolkien experienced fantasy, and his reading of fantasy was in writers such as Morris and Haggard. For a discussion, see the J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia ed. Michale Drout on 19th- and 20th-century literary influences on Tolkien.

13.Tolkien's imagination worked along the traditional, perennial lines of the loss of the golden age. But we've bet our children's, grandchildren's, and great-grandchildren's finances on a utopia that will justify colossal indebtedness, and losses of liberty and privacy, etc. Listen to the American candidates for president. How alike they are, in regard to being oriented towards Future Greatness. Gahhh. Our endless assembly-line of zombie movies, apocalypses (narrowly averted?), etc. suggest that at some level we don't really think the world they promise is coming our way, but we keep on electing them. I think there is a very great deal of hopelessness among people in our time. But hope is huge and heartfelt in Tolkien's imagination. It doesn't seem likely that someone writing Rings today would have that conviction.

As a thought experiment, try to imagine LotR as written by Mervyn Peake, a writer of great imaginative gifts, but whose sensibility was more modern than Tolkien's.
 
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I'm going to disagree on point 9 (I think that the enormous popularity of romantic fiction among vast numbers of the fairer sex is proof enough here) and point 13 (the very fact that Jeremy Corbyn still leads the Labour Party and Bernie Sanders ran Hilary so close is proof enough that there are plenty of people with a positive idea of an alternative way of doing things), but otherwise: I don't think I can fault you.

Thank you for such a well thought out and constructed argument, they were all factors that that would like to remain the same in an alternative reality modern retelling but valid points nonetheless.
 
14.Maybe someone can advise me better on this; but my sense is that another big difference, for the shaping of imagination, for Tolkien vs. the modern writer, would be with regard for Roman Catholicism. Here in America, the Roman Catholic church seems to me (if I may say so) a very large mainline Protestant denomination--in that a great many, perhaps a large majority, of at least its "educated" members feel quite free to disagree with and to disregard tenets of its theology and morality. I would guess that this is not too different from what would be the case in some Western European countries, and Britain, at least. Tolkien grew up with a Latin liturgy, and conservative doctrine and morality as the norm. Priest and pope possessed at least nominally a very high degree of authority and there was a strong impression of continuity with the medieval church and beyond. Now many Catholics seem (to me) to hold that "the Church is the people," and if the people don't believe in transubstantiation, the Church as the ark of salvation, the priesthood as possessing a supernatural charism peculiar to it, homosexual activity as sin, and so on--why then it is for officialdom to get with the people. I will document some of these remarks with a couple of links:

Catholics for Choice

On Almost Every Major Issue, Catholics Are More Progressive Than The Average American

The point is not to start a thread about Catholicism but to suggest an unprecedented, huge change for the Roman Catholic church, taking it very far indeed from what Tolkien grew up with and which shaped his imagination deeply. He felt in his bones that while society had changed dramatically, there was a supernatural Institution, transcending any merely human culture, that persisted--and this may have affected, for example, his idea of the persistence of the Numenorean civilization, with its connections even back to the First Age, that survived, however severely assailed, and that had passed on, intact, the lore of the elder ages. But I doubt that that's how very many Catholics, at least in the US, think and act now. Let's imagine someone who's grown up in the Roman communion post-Vatican II. Is he or she going to have had anything like the imaginative, aesthetic, intellectual formation that Tolkien did? So even if our modern writer of Lord of the Rings were Catholic, is it at all likely that the writer would be Catholic like Tolkien?

So here let's imagine LotR as written by a modern Catholic, say Gene Wolfe or Mary Doria Russell (who has left Rome since publishing The Sparrow, I believe).
 
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15.Tolkien is on record: he wouldn't have finished LotR if not for C. S. Lewis's encouragement. (I can provide verification tomorrow.) The "modern" Tolkien wouldn't have Lewis's presence in his life (and this was throughout the entire composition of the book, approximately 1937-1949, and before and after). If you're at all interested in Tolkien as a member of a brilliant writing group including Lewis and others, see Diana Pavlac Glyer's The Company They Keep or Bandersnatch.

16.The modern writer would have an "anxiety of influence" problem that Tolkien didn't have. Since the 1970s "fantasy" has been a publishers'/booksellers' category, such that probably people who would not otherwise write in it have done so. One wouldn't want to seem to belong to that bunch. But also the modern fantasy writer may feel he or she is "competing" with excellent works such as Le Guin's Earthsea trilogy, etc. This was not a source of stress for Tolkien.

17.Finally (for now), remember that Tolkien didn't grow up with the mass production of commercial fantasy art. Modern fantasy authors are well acquainted with unicorns, dragons, etc. as rendered by artists who specialize in such work. Tolkien's imagination had not been colonized by that. His visual world was largely that of the natural world plus, I suppose, illustrations in Andrew Lang's "color" fairy books, pictures in Rider Haggard's novels, and so on. Fantasy movies were virtually unknown, I suppose, but the modern writer will inevitably have seen ones that have appeared since the era of Dragonslayer and Ladyhawke--i.e. over thirty years.

I realize that my remarks have mostly contrasted Tolkien's background with that of a modern fantasy writer, rather than saying much about how a modern fantasy writer would write the LotR plot, but perhaps the implications are clear enough.

NB The closest recent thing to a book from a Tolkienian imagination might be Eugene Vodolazkin's excellent (and not terribly Tolkienian!) Laurus. The author is a Russian medievalist. Give it a read and see what you think. Highly recommended.
 
Let's say, for the he sake of argument that Professor Tolkien had written something different with similar cultural and literary impact. Now let's forget about what form that might have taken. We'll just place a pin firmly into that piece and wilfully suspend disbelief in that in order to engage the following debate:

If a new, skilled, modern fantasy writer were to conceive of Arda, the Children of Illuvatar, the Valar, the Maiar, Morgoth, the Silmarils, Feanor, Sauron, Celebrimbor and the Rings of Power etc etc plus the key endgame narratives of The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings remaining the same (well, the key plot points anyway); what differences do we think we would see?
Where in time would a modern writer commence his/her story? How many novels would the series contain?

It would be a 7 to 10 book series. That seems to be the fashion. I would imagine it on the terms of Erikson's Malazan series as opposed to Martin's work. IMHO they are the only 2 writers in modern fantasy who could do it. I would put it on record that both writers surpass Tolkien in depth of vision and storytelling.

I'll make a reasonably serious effort to respond to the invitation in the first posting.

1.The whole matter of languages would be different. I suspect you cannot get an education now such as Prof. Tolkien had. But language were a huge element in Tolkien's mental world, amounting to more than just inventing celeb to mean "silver" etc. There's much less emphasis on grammar in school instruction now, so the writer's imagination would not have had that experience. Those who have explored Tolkien's private papers on his invented languages will especially know what I am referring to. The modern writer might invent names, common nouns, etc. but these would not have the depth of Tolkien's. Tolkien found it natural to write poems in existing forms, use poetic diction, and to employ rhyme. It seems those now are regarded as old-fashioned and perhaps suspicious, "inauthentic."

2.Our modern writer would not know ancient and medieval literature in the original languages--not, anyway, to the degree that Tolkien did; and if he or she did know ancient and medieval languages, would not have explored them with the sense of original research that Tolkien experienced. That would affect the imagining of Middle-earth. Tolkien was a world-class scholar as regards Beowulf, the Saga of the Volsungs, etc. His imagination was piqued by the textual issues in these. Those are not such fresh topics now.

3.The writer would not be a World War I veteran. That had a huge impact on Tolkien's imagination, e.g. the Dead Marshes. Written today, we would get a long series of books in which the violent scenes were rendered in a much more close up manner. But Tolkien knew about real violence and suffering in a different way than the goremongers do.

4.The writer would not have grown up with the "naive" but deep patriotism that was part of Tolkien's culture. A modern writer grows up in a culture in which globalism is the default agenda of the pundits, politicians, Socially Conscious writers, etc. Is it conceivable that a modern writer would give us the Scouring of the Shire--which was completely amputated from the screen treatment? In Tolkien's original imaginative writings, at least, there were major connections between these ancient cities and locations in our own world.

5.A huge matter is that the writer would almost certainly not have grown up as a walker. Tolkien or one of his friends commented somewhere about how the private automobile etc. so greatly changed the experience of distance. People talk a lot now about valuing nature, and sometimes even take vacations in national parks and so on. They are not so likely to have daily rambles along rural paths, etc. These rambles naturally lent themselves to walking songs, etc. "The road goes ever on." But tell me when was the last time you heard someone walking along with hands in pocket whistling a tune.

6.Tolkien grew up not expecting government to do a lot for himself or anyone else. But now it's thought that government is there to "do things for" people. We as a culture obsess lately about "equality." Tolkien was more concerned about freedom. I don't think a modern writer is likely to have the trust that Tolkien evidently did have for the capacity of ordinary folk to look after themselves. His brother became a market gardener--sturdily independent so far as I know. A modern writer may hardly believe that such a thing is really possible, and his or her treatment of such an arrangement would probably be less heartfelt than Tolkien's.

7.In general people now are conditioned to "care about" a host of persons and things. These are often rather abstract. Tolkien knew the names of the wild flowers that grew where he lived. Who except hobbyists do, now? But that is part of his way of imagining.

8.Tolkien believed that reality is hierarchical. He believed that you explain a thing's being in terms of what is greater than itself (teleologically)--all the way up to Eru. A writer growing up in our time is taught to explain a thing in terms of what is less than itself, hence the ubiquity of the formulation "X is really nothing but Y." Our thoughts and emotions are really dependent on biology, biology really depends on chemistry, chemistry really depends on physics, i.e. the personal is less basic than the impersonal. That is very different from what Tolkien not just assumed for the sake of writing fantasy but really believed.

9.Feminism, modern social life, etc. have about killed the kind of exclusive, romantic love that Tolkien really believed in, experienced, and suggested in his writing. I don't suppose a modern writer would be likely to imagine Tolkien's Beren and Lύthien, yet that myth was one of the core elements of his imaginarium. True, a modern writer might have these two find each other: the "love of my life" thing. But the other would not have been the only love of their lives. Moderns' discomfort with Tolkien's imagination come to the surface in snide remarks about tapestry-weaving women, etc.

10.Tolkien believed in natural law or the doctrine of objective value (see his friend Lewis's Abolition of Man lectures at the University of Durham). He is very far indeed from our mainstream culture's scientism, which looks to "science" to give us the answers to what we should do (and which true science never can do, dealing as it does with observations of what is, not with oughts).

11.There are horrors in Tolkien's book, but the descriptions are generally brief and evocative, rather than detailed. For nearly 50 years horror fiction has emphasized "graphic" passages, and I suppose the Rings, written today, would do so.

12.A big difference that we can hardly conceive is that Tolkien's imagination was shaped by the written word plus the natural world. A modern writer's imagination will have been shaped to some extent, perhaps a very great extent, by television, movies, games, etc., in which the imaginary scene is done for the consumer and all the consumer has to do is let it wash over him or her. That is not how Tolkien experienced fantasy, and his reading of fantasy was in writers such as Morris and Haggard. For a discussion, see the J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia ed. Michale Drout on 19th- and 20th-century literary influences on Tolkien.

13.Tolkien's imagination worked along the traditional, perennial lines of the loss of the golden age. But we've bet our children's, grandchildren's, and great-grandchildren's finances on a utopia that will justify colossal indebtedness, and losses of liberty and privacy, etc. Listen to the American candidates for president. How alike they are, in regard to being oriented towards Future Greatness. Gahhh. Our endless assembly-line of zombie movies, apocalypses (narrowly averted?), etc. suggest that at some level we don't really think the world they promise is coming our way, but we keep on electing them. I think there is a very great deal of hopelessness among people in our time. But hope is huge and heartfelt in Tolkien's imagination. It doesn't seem likely that someone writing Rings today would have that conviction.

As a thought experiment, try to imagine LotR as written by Mervyn Peake, a writer of great imaginative gifts, but whose sensibility was more modern than Tolkien's.

I live in the country and walk on average 40-50 kilometres a week. Some of us modern folk still do old fashioned things like that.
 
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If a new, skilled, modern fantasy writer were to conceive of Arda, the Children of Illuvatar, the Valar, the Maiar, Morgoth, the Silmarils, Feanor, Sauron, Celebrimbor and the Rings of Power etc etc plus the key endgame narratives of The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings remaining the same (well, the key plot points anyway); what differences do we think we would see?
Where in time would a modern writer commence his/her story? How many novels would the series contain?

I think a modern fantasy writer looking to get published and find a mainstream audience would focus the books on the story of Beren and Luthien. It has a very modern premise. Orphan boy flees from bad guy who killed his father. Heroine is the daughter of a powerful but arrogant king. They meet and fall love, despite being from different cultures, and against the wishes of the father. Then they face off against a world-threatening evil.

It would be told in tight 3rd person, with Beren and Luthien as the POV characters. Probably spread out of three books.

A subsequent series would jump forward to the Third Age. But I doubt it would be about a bunch of small-town bumpkins bringing a ring to a mountain. I see Faramir, Eowyn, and Aragorn as the main characters. Classic love triangle.
 
Honestly its impossible to say but I think that all that was written would have potential to be written again in the same structure.

I think that language was Tolkien's dream and there are certainly language and dead language classes today as there were in the past - heck anyone can get a grounding through the internet if you want.

What diferences might there be?
1) War- as said WWI was a major influence on Tolkien and without that I think it would have changed the nature of his war descriptions. Missed in the film but the siege on Gondor was much more trench-warfare style as the orcs dug in for the siege. In todays world we might see that more akin to GRRM in that it would take more of a lead from medieval wartimes. He might even have more overtly based it upon a or several key battle stories recounted in Norse Mythology* or actual historical record

2) Characters - whilst he's writing a norse inspired tale I think that in modern times the story might well have gained at least one or more lead female characters. Whilst the original works does not run women down (indeed most of the women we meet are shown to be very formidable in their own right) it does not play them up either through the main bulk of the adventures. I think a more modern writing might well have resulted in one or two female characters rising to the fore more apparently

3) It would have been longer - he likely could have included far more detail; far more content and told far more of his story today than in the past - depending on his focus of course.

4) Lord of the Rings might have been influenced to take a more Hobbit style of writing; Tolkien was not, as we must recall, focused on writing a story but a mythology for England. If I recall right the Hobbit was even the result of challenge (I think from CS Lewis) to Tolkien to prove that he wasn't just a "world builder" but a skilled writer.



Of course this last point also raises a key fact - Tolkien wasn't writing a book. He was writing a mythology and that I think is the crux of many changes in the nature of the writing. If we preserve that aspect and the period in time he chose to based it upon then chances are many changes we might "expect" to see might not even happen even if it were written in more modern times because it wasn't written for nor based on modern times but past times.
Indeed if his strength as an author and his faithfulness to his source material are preserved we might not see many social changes appear.

Indeed I have to personally say that sometimes when one can see the icon "black/gay/trans/female" character or see the author projecting modern day social change into a fantasy and historical context the writing often appears; to my eye; weaker for it. Often because just taken modern world people and society and transposing that onto a different culture and historical point in time is often a sign of a lack of effective research into the people and life of those ages by the writer - something we cannot attribute to Tolkien (and yet if we look at GRRM we can certainly see that even with all the research we can still see some of those aspects arise without this feeling of weakness in the story and writing) .

*I'm not well read in Norse Mythology and thus I've no idea if any of the major battles were already based upon such literature.
 
That's a tour de force there from Extollager; although there is no reason our modern Tolkien can't be an Afghanistan veteran from a socially conservative village in the Scottish highlands where he does a great deal of walking and emailing very supportive friends. The world has changed, but what Tolkien experienced has not completely gone. I used to holiday every year on the Isle of Wight; long walks on a daily basis and social conservatism were very much part of the way of things. That said - it is unlikely.

I would love to see more books from authors with the depth of Tolkien's scholarly knowledge. It is a minor ambition of mine - might take twenty years or so to materialise though.

edit: One can perhaps look at the way Jordan handled the Norse mythology inspirations in Wheel of Time to see how it might be handled today; that is, repackaged, rather than presented more or less straight.
 
I think we can look at authors like Tad Williams as people who can write in the Tolkien 'tradition'. He is a wonderful writer, who would do a modern version of LOTR proud.
 
I would love to see more books from authors with the depth of Tolkien's scholarly knowledge. It is a minor ambition of mine - might take twenty years or so to materialise though.

I wonder about the possibility of that, in the English-speaking world at least. Tolkien's youthful education and then his studies as a member of a university were deep in philology, which by now is an old-fashioned-sounding term. Oversimplifying, my sense is that what we have now is: linguistics, a very technical field indeed, and "English," which has largely succumbed to very politicized criticism and theory (feminism, postcolonial, etc.). Classical languages went deep in Tolkien's early life, but I wonder how many universities now offer something comparable to what Tolkien had as youth and young man. Tolkien's idea of philology combined the rigor of close study of languages with appreciation of the enduring imaginative qualities of literature, and my understanding is that his idea of philology prevailed in mid-century Oxford. But not any more. Bear in mind that Tolkien would have been able to read Homeric Greek, the Icelandic sagas, Old English works like Beowulf, etc., to say nothing of modern languages. Is it even possible for someone to get an education like that now and to become a scholar such as Tolkien was--and he was a world-class scholar?

To put it very simplistically, scholarly knowledge as Tolkien knew it was conservative--literally concerned with the heritage of the past as a treasure to which a person might dedicate herself or himself; but "English" today is largely "progressive." At least that's the way it looks if you see what conferences, academic papers, course titles, and so on suggest. I don't mean there's nothing now that Tolkien would recognize as scholarship. I mean that it has ceased, as far as I know, to be central to the purpose of university English studies, and that insofar as it still exists, it is a constricted thing as compared to Tolkien's time. You just aren't going to get that kind of education now.

I could be wrong. I'm expressing impressions. But I've been a professor since 1989.

In fairness, though I loathe the politicization I mention above, I realize that many of the scholarly questions being worked on when Tolkien was a young man, and later in his life, may have been taken about as far as they can go. I don't know if there really is much new to say about the "AB language" of the "Katherine Group" (see below) etc. But then I think "research" is perhaps overemphasized today, and that what would be better would be for scholars who can teach--that includes undergraduates--to teach well, from knowledge and disinterested, nonpoliticized love of their subjects. That would probably mean there would be a lot fewer people making a living as university English teachers, because relatively few of them would be well qualified if we took away the emphasis on identity studies (women's literature, gay literature, Caribbean literature, etc.) and so on. I do wonder how many of my colleagues have read very widely even in modern English (by "modern" I mean, say, from the time of Sir Thomas Malory onward).

AB language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]
 
The One Ring hocked, swarming cities of Orcs 'n Gorblins, Gandalf living in homeless shelter, Hobbits get bit roles in movies exploiting midgets... uhm... Nazguls as security guards at gladatorial fight rings, Elves, Dwarves selling magic blades at flea markets. Some teenagers find the ring and goofy shenanigans result in endless sequels..* (
The Nazgul would make good guards for Azkaban.
 

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