PC Clock Runs Fast

[Dave]

No, there's no acute accent. It's pronounced "cash". (Did they really pronounce it "case"? That's just weird.)

Really? We used to have cache boxes at work to keep notes safe. They were cache boxes with a acute accent but they had cash inside them. Are you sure that isn't American English? I just checked online, but they are all american dictionary websites which say it is cash unless it is written cachet. I've never heard of a cachet before.

Edit: I found this and I've obviously been saying it all wrong according to an American professor of English (if that isn't an oxymoron itself.)

cache / cachet | Common Errors in English Usage and More | Washington State University

brians.wsu.edu

“Cache” comes from the French verb cacher, meaning “to hide,” and in English is pronounced exactly like the word “cash.” But reporters speaking of a cache (hidden hoard) of weapons or drugs often mispronounce it to sound like cachet—“ca-SHAY” —a word with a very different meaning: originally a seal affixed to a document, now a quality attributed to anything with authority or prestige. Rolex watches have cachet.

 

[HareBrain]

Edit: I found this and I've obviously been saying it all wrong according to an American professor of English (if that isn't an oxymoron itself.)

Don't worry, that's nothing next to a follow accountancy student I once knew, who insisted on pronouncing Porsche as Por-shay.

 

[Ursa major]

who insisted on pronouncing Porsche as Por-shay

Are you sure that he wasn't putting on a Terry-Thomas accent (with added ooomph) and was actually saying, "Poor show" when seeing a sports car that had too few components made from burnished wood (he being a Morgan buff...)?

 

[Dave]

I've heard people pronounce it "Pore-shay" when they christened their daughter that or gave that name to their dog (and if you named something yourself, then really you can say it anyway you like) but the motor car is definitely a Porsche.

 

[-K2-]

I'm betting the people at Porsche might know how to pronounce Porsche...

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[Foxbat]

Why oh why does Microsoft software have to be so damned infuriating? Despite setting Firefox as my default browser, the new PC continued to open Edge at startup. It took me about half an hour to finally get it to stop. Turns out it was because of a recent update, but secretly, I think MS are doing this deliberately and hoping you'll just give up trying to get rid of Edge and keep on using it instead of your preferred browser (probably for greater advertising revenue so they can all afford new Porschays)

No ****ing way, Microsoft! The more you try, the more determined I'll become not to use your browser

 

[HareBrain]

Despite setting Firefox as my default browser, the new PC continued to open Edge at startup. It took me about half an hour to finally get it to stop.

Odd. Mine also started up Edge after an update. I clicked "close" as soon as I could (about the second setup screen) and I haven't seen it since.

(ETA: I've only ever put it on sleep since, though, never restarted it. So ignore.)

 

[Elckerlyc]

Let go of all hope that Microsoft will ever think your way.

 

[mosaix]

Why oh why does Microsoft software have to be so damned infuriating? Despite setting Firefox as my default browser, the new PC continued to open Edge at startup. It took me about half an hour to finally get it to stop. Turns out it was because of a recent update, but secretly, I think MS are doing this deliberately and hoping you'll just give up trying to get rid of Edge and keep on using it instead of your preferred browser (probably for greater advertising revenue so they can all afford new Porschays)

No ****ing way, Microsoft! The more you try, the more determined I'll become not to use your browser

The real problem is that, despite you having bought the machine, the operating system and the applications, Microsoft regard them all as fair target to do with them as they want - probably to their advantage.

I had graphical design package that ran under XP. I installed it on my Windows 10 machine and it ran perfectly. One day I noticed that it had been deleted and Windows 10 now refuses to install it. Very irritating. It was complex and took me months to master it. Any replacement won’t be compatible with my existing files and will take ages to learn.

 

[Dave]

I had graphical design package that ran under XP. I installed it on my Windows 10 machine and it ran perfectly. One day I noticed that it had been deleted and Windows 10 now refuses to install it. Very irritating. It was complex and took me months to master it. Any replacement won’t be compatible with my existing files and will take ages to learn.

This is worrying. I knew they could do what they liked with the operating system and that it will only run Microsoft apps, but I have quite a few bits of other software installed (one that contains over 30 years of family history research) that I would not want to see deleted. At least I do back them up on a regular basis, but I think that would be the point of no return for me. I'd definitely leave Windows for Linux or something else if they ever pulled something like that.

All the software I use currently is designed for Windows 10, but I thought one of the heavily advertised benefits of Windows 10 was the ability to run old software using the Compatibility Mode?

 

[Foxbat]

I tried compatibility mode with Photoshop Elements. As much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

 

[Foxbat]

Windows 10 is officially doing my head in.

I lost the sound to my speakers but, luckily, having HDMI connection to my monitor, I was able to reroute the sound through the inbuilt speakers there. After doing a bit of info searching, I was all ready to try a few things to tackle the issue but thought I'd give the speaker output one last check and -whadayaknow? The sound is back. So now I've reset them as default.

Problem is, I don't know what the problem was so there's every likelyhood of it re-occuring further down the road. At least I've got a fallback in the monitor speakers, I suppose

 

[Foxbat]

And the sound is gone again.....Nightmare. Tried to re-install drivers. Won't let me. Says most up to date drivers already installed. One bit of advice is to uninstall current drivers and let Windows reinstall again on startup. But that doesn't work because the uninstall option is greyed out.

Gone through all the advice and things to try I could find on the internet but nowt. Back to using the monitor speakers via HDMI again.

Unbelievable! Going by what I've found out, this appears to be a common problem with Windows 10. Why oh why can't Microsoft simply make an operating system that does what it says on the tin? Maybe they should be more honest with the next Windows evolution and call it Windows Crap.

 

[Elckerlyc]

I had kind of the same problem when I struggled with Windows 10 to have it run by my rules and not Microsoft's. I failed miserably.
Anyway, it turned out that I, by my rigorously settings concerning Privacy, not only had cut off access to the mic but by doing so also to the speakers.

 

[Foxbat]

Well the sound is working again (for now). It's an onboard sound system with a generic microsoft audio driver so I decided to do a re-install. Got a code 10 in the process. That means that it can't complete the install because it can't talk to the device (and yet Windows audio troubleshooter consistently came back saying there were no problems). I thought sod it and rebooted. Presto! Sound back, but for how long?
I think if it goes again, I'll just stick with the HDMI until I can get a new soundcard.

 

[Dave]

Do you use external speakers? I do too (harman/kardon) and they come with custom drivers from the manufacturer (and are updated) independent of the Windows 10 standard Microsoft audio device drivers, which Windows will automatically defer to.

So, is Windows stopping you from installing the driver downloaded directly from the device manufacturer?

I was going to suggest that you download something like IObit Driver Booster that will find and update to the current drivers for your devices. It also purges old drivers so that Windows can't accidentally reinstall them. However, I've noticed now that it won't run anymore. I don't know what is blocking it, probably antivirus software.

By the way, I don't update everything suggested by Driver Booster as I've had problems before with the WiFi network drivers it installed, and that old adage "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" seems appropriate here. But since you are having a problem anyway...

 

[Ursa major]

If PC Clock runs fast, he (or she) clearly hasn't eaten enough doughnuts....

 

[Foxbat]

Do you use external speakers? I do too (harman/kardon) and they come with custom drivers from the manufacturer (and are updated) independent of the Windows 10 standard Microsoft audio device drivers, which Windows will automatically defer to.

So, is Windows stopping you from installing the driver downloaded directly from the device manufacturer?

I was going to suggest that you download something like IObit Driver Booster that will find and update to the current drivers for your devices. It also purges old drivers so that Windows can't accidentally reinstall them. However, I've noticed now that it won't run anymore. I don't know what is blocking it, probably antivirus software.

By the way, I don't update everything suggested by Driver Booster as I've had problems before with the WiFi network drivers it installed, and that old adage "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" seems appropriate here. But since you are having a problem anyway...

Yes, external speakers. A pair of small Missions through an old Cambridge Audio amp. They are completely independent and don’t need any interface with the PC other than plugging into the signal out socket. Sound is inbuilt to the mother board and it seems that the Windows generic driver is the right one for it. Even looking at system hardware devices via control panel doesn’t identify it any more than High Definition Generic Audio Device so I have no idea who the original chip manufacturer is.

Apparently, sound issues after a W10 update are quite common. I’ve also discovered that the popular RPG Morrowind (which I’d recently installed) is notorious for causing sound problems or inoperability in W10. Morrowind is now uninstalled. Sound working again after aborted re-install of drivers but I’ve lost confidence in it so I think I’ll be buying a new, separate soundcard in the near future.

I notice you can now buy external soundcards that connect vis USB. Anybody know if these are any good?

 

[-K2-]

If I recall correctly... it was some time ago that sound support was shifted to the motherboard or CPU, essentially making sound cards obsolete/unnecessary, and added nothing to enhance 'typical' PC performance like years past (years past they helped significantly depending on the software in use). That said, I could be wrong or things might have changed--again--where a sound card might help overall PC performance, and naturally, they'll always help if you're wanting higher quality audio.

The advantage of an external unit is you'll not have the same amount of interference from other internal PC components, but the question is do you need that? Unless you're needing an amplifier and have high quality speakers or headphones (E.g.: you drop a Ferrari engine into a Yugo but you don't change the rest of the driveline or tires), and are working with audio or wanting it as your primary musical system, it's questionable if you need either form (ext/int...both same-same as far as I know).

With all that out of the way, you might be on to something if you're simply trying to bypass the W10 audio...but...I don't know if it actually does that like OSs of old. In fact, for all 'I know,' it might still route through the W10 audio software and motherboard sound controller first.

Best to do a few searches asking if they're even needed, and when, and whether you can bypass the W10 OS audio aspects.

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[Foxbat]

but the question is do you need that? Unless you're needing an amplifier and have high quality speakers or headphones (E.g.: you drop a Ferrari engine into a Yugo but you don't change the rest of the driveline or tires), and are working with audio or wanting it as your primary musical system, it's questionable if you need either form (ext/int...both same-same as far as I know).

One of the functions I intend for this new PC is to upload my music into Soundcloud. Although all the recording and mixing is done on a separate desk, I like to do a final upload quality check. For this, I need pretty decent audio (hence the use of Mission speakers and amplifier). Music drafting is just like writing, you can look at a line time and again and fail to spot a typo. Same in audio. It could be an unwanted background noise, buzz or hum inadvertently picked up in recording. Maybe we should call it a ’musicographical error’ or musico for short. It doesn’t happen often but I have pulled pieces down minutes after upload for precisely those problems.

But more than anything else, something not working properly just annoys the hell out of me and I can’t rest until I have subjugated the errant piece of equipment to my will.