Star Trek - Discovery - 1.05: Choose Your Pain

[Cli-Fi]

Was "the boss" also feeding him too? Not much strength on 7 months of dry cracker biscuits.

Hey! I do realise this is family entertainment fluff, but modern TV shows now tend to be much more graphic and gritty. If you must have a story-line that includes torture, harsh imprisonment, malnutrition, random beatings and sexual favours, then it belittles the very serious nature of those subjects (and most especially those people who have actually had to experience it in real life) to cover it with such a very light touch. My 2 cents.

I'm confident assuming those people likely aren't watching Star Trek Discovery.

 

[Cli-Fi]

Not really, no. We get around five minutes of his character in the original one, rest is dedicated to the tribbles. I think they made a very good job on expending his background. He is one of those persons who would turn on his kind and fleece them on every opportunity for a profit. It just I don't think he will ever have enough of money to get out from the abysmal hole he has dug himself into.

Anyone else think Harry Mudd was very different from the original series.

Are they making Mudd into a secondary Q-like villain? That would be interesting. Since this is ten years BEFORE Kirk encounters Mudd and by that time Mudd is already ruling a sizable empire/planet(?) I'm assuming he will be back. Like he said, and we will find out how he gets rich again. I'm thinking he makes a deal with the Klingons and then with Lorca, perhaps for Spore Travel.

 

[ctg]

Like he said, and we will find out how he gets rich again. I'm thinking he makes a deal with the Klingons and then with Lorca, perhaps for Spore Travel.

I think there's more to Mudd's tale then there ever was for DS9's Quark. With him we can imagine the deep dive into the brown matter and that Sun sometimes shines on those roses. But if I'm really honest, I'd love to see a top class corporate shark as there has to be room for those greedy bastards in the ST universe. Suits never die.

 

[Cli-Fi]

I think there's more to Mudd's tale then there ever was for DS9's Quark. With him we can imagine the deep dive into the brown matter and that Sun sometimes shines on those roses. But if I'm really honest, I'd love to see a top class corporate shark as there has to be room for those greedy bastards in the ST universe. Suits never die.

It would have been nice to see a few scenes of some of Mudd's antics and how that led him to Klingon ship. Especially for newer fans who might not know him. I don't know him that well myself, and do not really understand why he is a classic fan favorite. Unless that's because Mudd's character is the first of his kind (which I don't think) Doctor Who has had these types of charlatans in the past. Not to mention the Doctor's personality is almost exactly the same as Mudd's is.

 

[Vince W]

Does anyone else think that we're missing out on some other characters, like Lt.Detmer (what's up with the face implant?), or the semi-robotic Airiam? I would like to know a little about them as well.

 

[Cathbad]

Was "the boss" also feeding him too? Not much strength on 7 months of dry cracker biscuits.

I would think she was f6eeding him. After all, one needs his/her strength for Klingon mating rituals!!

 

[Cathbad]

Does anyone else think that we're missing out on some other characters, like Lt.Detmer (what's up with the face implant?), or the semi-robotic Airiam? I would like to know a little about them as well.

Give it time!

We've only had 5 episodes, after all.

 

[Vince W]

I would think she was f6eeding him. After all, one needs his/her strength for Klingon mating rituals!!

Niven never mentioned this about rishathra.

 

[Vince W]

When Saru had the computer list the bravest captains in Starfleet history, at the top of the list was Robert April. So, when can we expect the Kzinti?

 

[Cathbad]

I had to go look April up. Cool story, there!

 

[Cli-Fi]

On the way home I was thinking about what type of effect injecting Ripper DNA had on Stamets. I'm not going a direct Mirror Universe route since that's the main theory out there and most likely untrue. Remember he would have to have a stable wormhole in his quarters.

So throwing that out, his "I feel fine," line really intrigues me here. Without much detail we can't know what I feel fine means. What sickness does Stamets actually have? He's not just eccentric apparently. Does that mean that Ripper DNA helped him from whatever internal demons he was struggling with? How would he know? Why was he not freaking out about the mirror? Did he even know what was going on? See? The Mirror Universe theories make no sense if it's a physical mirror universe. Unless they are just watching themselves? So on that note... What about a mental mirror Universe?

Did having access to different spore routes affect this? We never really see Stamets not in control of his sickness so we don't really know if the mirror scene was a part of that. I'm guessing it was. Otherwise, anybody else would have freaked out!!!

If Spore Travel through Ripper DNA made stamets feel better, then I would assume that his sickness/double vision or whatever the heck that was, was a lot worse before he injected himself with Ripper DNA. Maybe he was suffering from multiple factors of double vision. Imagine being bombarded by that! As Discovery does not like to tell, and we have not delved too deeply into anyone's past it's hard to pin down what exactly is wrong with Stamets at this point in the show.

I love this show! It's so... fascinating.

 

[Cathbad]

Otherwise, anybody else would have freaked out!!!

Are you sure he even noticed?

My take was, that his - call it alternate self - was just a bit out of synch with him.

And perhaps we are getting glimpses of an alternate/mirror universe - just not the one we're all thinking about?

 

[Cli-Fi]

Are you sure he even noticed?

My take was, that his - call it alternate self - was just a bit out of synch with him.

And perhaps we are getting glimpses of an alternate/mirror universe - just not the one we're all thinking about?

Not entirely sure. He could, or could not.

My thinking is that Stamets was seeing double visions of himself, and that was giving him problems. Maybe split personality, and perhaps the spores have actually split that personality out into another route so to speak. Another reality. Like a mental version of Kirk's transporter accident. Where his personality split into two Kirks. That would be a nice homage to that episode. He might not 'see' himself now.

 

[Cli-Fi]

Perhaps just the first of the many problems with spore travel. Of course Starfleet would want to keep this hushed.

 

[Bugg]

Whatever, that was the greatest cliff-hanger I've seen on a Star Trek episode!

*cough*Best of Both Worlds*cough*

 

[Cli-Fi]

*cough*Best of Both Worlds*cough*

IDK most of Trek now seems cheesy compared to Discovery. Yeah I said it.

 

[Cli-Fi]

Rapp seems to be saying that whatever his character went through after injecting Ripper DNA altered his mind and he is becoming a new type of person. Like I just said. That Discovery will touch upon what effects it has on Stamets in upcoming episodes and to not take what is happening so literally (mirror universe).

“Some of the pieces seem like they’re going to be one sort of thing, but they’re another thing and vice versa,” he hints.

'Star Trek: Discovery's' Anthony Rapp on 'Mind-Altering' Twist and Stamets' Love Life (Exclusive)

 

[Bugg]

IDK most of Trek now seems cheesy compared to Discovery. Yeah I said it.

Yeah, there's really no recovering from that bombshell

 

[Cli-Fi]

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[Alexa]

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No way ! I kinda like the new guy and now I have to hate him ?