Historical Books - Non-Fiction

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What are your favorites? I love Ambrose, especially Undaunted Courage and Nothing Like It in the World, also a fan of Nathanial Philbrick. Sea of Glory and Mayflower are great.

Give me some other good historical books. I've heard Devil in the White City is good, also want to someday read all of Shelby Foote's Civil War series. Almost picked up a history of mapmakers today that sounded great, but i'm way behind in my to read pile....
 
Alice Clark - The Working Lives of Women in the Seventeenth Century - actually written as a thesis, very readable as well as thoroughly researched and detailed. The working lives of women then were a lot more varied than you'd think in the post Victorian age - basically, as she explains, in the era of crafts and working at home, many women either worked in the family business, or sometimes had their own separate trade. In smallholding they were an essential part of the working group. This continued after childbirth and into child rearing. Also the husband would be working at or near the home, so also could look after/train the children. Once you get to industrialisation, there is a workplace/home split and women's contributions to the family income, particularly post child birth tended to plummet and so did their status.

CV Wedgewood's trilogy on Charles I - basically the origins of the English Civil War, the war itself and the aftermath. Again readable and comprehensive.
 
Lacedaemonian, I'm a fan of American history, from the finding (not founding) all the way through the Civil War. I also love the period from the Dark ages through the high middle ages in Europe. The Crusades are a particular favorite...
 
I don't understand the question.

Do you mean hisorical fiction based on real events? e.g. Sharpe
Or do you mean fiction about real events? (not sure on examples...)
Or do you mean ficion set in a particular section of history but not necessarily about that section of history?

All of the above?

I like Sharpe (because I love swashbuckling stuff) and I like the Aubrey-Maturin books because they bring considerably more to the table than a simple tale of action. I also enjoyed Cryptonomicon because, although it is a novel, you can feel that you are actually learning something while you read it.
 
Gav, I'm talkin' non-fiction. Lac, that book looks interesting...
 
Gav, I'm talkin' non-fiction. Lac, that book looks interesting...

Ok. Bit dumb there. Shows what happens when you are not paying attention.

I've read a fair few history books so it depends on what you are looking for. I've been through fads on lots of topics.

I really enjoyed Gheghis Khan by John Man. And also Atilla the Hun.
And First Crusade (though I forget who wrote it).
Then there's the pelopnesian War: Thucydides or Donald Kagan. Both are excellent.
Mark Urban wrote the excellent "Rifles!" which is an excellent account of the Greenjackets in the Napoleonic war.

At the moment I am really into ancient history. So I've just been reading Xenophon and the like.
 
Just picked up at lunch today "A Distant Mirror - The Calamitous 14th Century" by Barbara W. Tuchman. Sounds great. Anyone read this???
 
Some other personal favorites: 1776 and John Adams by McCullough. Team of Rivals my Doris Kearns Goodwin. The First Crusade by Asbridge.
 
Just picked up at lunch today "A Distant Mirror - The Calamitous 14th Century" by Barbara W. Tuchman. Sounds great. Anyone read this???

Yes. Anything by Barbara Tuchman is worthwhile reading. Her absolute best is The Guns of August, all about the first fateful month of WW I. See also, Stilwell and the American Experience in China and The March of Folly. All her books are exhaustively researched and documented. So they can be challenging reads, but well worth the effort.

Now that she has passed on, I have found a new author that seems to be a worthy successor: Margaret Macmillan. Her recent book, Paris 1919, is a revelation. It concerns the monumental decisions that went into the creation of the Versailes treaty and the inevitable impact on subsequent world affairs, right down to what's going on in the middle east now. Hard to put it down.

Jim
 
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Thanks clovis, I'm excited about this book. I have heard of Guns of August. Won a pulitzer, didn't it???
 
only historical I ever got into was Carry on Mr. Bowditch. biography of 18th century American Mathemetician. haven't found a copy in 20 years though.
 
How about this: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, by Charles C. Mann.

Here's the review I wrote on my blog after I read it:

I just finished reading 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, by Charles C. Mann (Vintage Books, 2006; Knopf hardback edition, 2005). If you have any interest at all in anthropology or archaeology, or in the history of the Western Hemisphere, especially that period before the Europeans arrived, you will probably find this book fascinating.

Mann addresses several topics here. One is the idea that the Western Hemisphere was much more populous at European contact than was previously believed. It is possible, he writes, that there were more people in the Western Hemisphere in 1491 than there were in Europe, and that at the city of Tenochtitlan - the Aztec capital - had more inhabitants at contact than did any European city of the time. Mann also looks at the ongoing arguments over when the first inhabitants of the hemisphere arrived and how and when - and how fast - they spread out over the land. In addition, he presents new evidence that, far from being an untouched land on which the native inhabitants made no mark, the Western Hemisphere had been extensively transformed by those who lived here. The reason the land appeared so pristine when settlers arrived after the initial 100 to 200 year period of conquest was that so many of the inhabitants had been killed off, mostly by the spread of diseases carried by the first Europeans to arrive, perhaps as much as 90 to 95 percent of the population in some areas.

Previous to European contact, Mann writes, the high population of the hemisphere had turned the land into a “managed” environment. However, by the time settlers arrived so much of the population had died that there were not enough people left to keep the environment under control. Farmed land was overgrown by forest, for example on the east coast of what is now the United States. Populations of species such as bison and passenger pigeons, which had been kept to manageable numbers by the Indians, exploded when hunting declined along with the human population. He even presents new evidence that the Amazon region, long thought to have been sparsely settled by small and unsophisticated groups, never extensively farmed due to the unsuitability of the soil, was actually was one of those highly managed areas that for thousands of years supported large, fairly advanced cultures that subsisted mostly by farming rather than by hunting and gathering. Some of this information has not been welcomed, especially by environmentalists, including the idea that part of the management of the Amazon was done through what he calls a “slash and char” process that allowed the inhabitants to add charcoal to the soil and enhanced its suitability for farming. But, Mann writes, this wasn’t the wholesale burning that modern developers have practiced to their own economic gain and showing evidence that the process was used is not the same thing as supporting what has gone on in the region more recently.

While Mann writes that more and more anthropologists and archaeologists are coming to accept the new evidence he reports and the new picture of conditions in the Western Hemisphere before European contact that this evidence supports, there is still significant dissent to these new views. He presents both sides of the debate even though it is fairly clear that he favors the new paradigm. He also proposes that there are political reasons why some individuals, both in and out of the anthropological community, cling to the old view that there were few people here when the Europeans arrived, and that most of them were unsophisticated both culturally and technologically. This old view, he argues, makes the European occupation of the hemisphere more palatable than having to face the possibility that they came and took over land that was already possessed by large and sophisticated civilizations that were in some cases different only in detail and not in substance from those in the Eastern Hemisphere.

Mann, a science writer for such publications as Science and The Atlantic Monthly is a good writer who presents the stories he tells with wit and humanity. The arguments he presents for his premises are quite convincing, for the most part. He has documented his research extensively - the book contains 52 pages of endnotes and the bibliography runs to 58 pages. Obviously, he does not expect the reader to take his word for the evidence he presents, and in fact in the Afterword to the paperback edition of the book he explicitly states that he “wanted to have a fuller bibliography than is usual in popular works - I wanted to point people to the original sources, so that readers who were interested could find out more.” There is clearly more to be said on these subjects, and newer and even more extensive evidence could modify or overturn some of the ideas Mann presents and advocates for. Such is the nature of science, and of history. Still, this overview of the subject as it stands is interesting, valuable, and a very good read.
 
I'm about halfway through the 1491.... Mann book littleissattitude mentioned, and really like it.

David McCullough was mentioned above. His books The Great Bridge, and The Path Between the Seas were both very good reads. The first recounts the building of the Brooklyn Bridge. The second the building of the Panama Canal.
 
How about this: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus, by Charles C. Mann.

Here's the review I wrote on my blog after I read it:

Taking a portion of the quote:

"He even presents new evidence that the Amazon region, long thought to have been sparsely settled by small and unsophisticated groups, never extensively farmed due to the unsuitability of the soil, was actually was one of those highly managed areas that for thousands of years supported large, fairly advanced cultures that subsisted mostly by farming rather than by hunting and gathering. Some of this information has not been welcomed, especially by environmentalists, including the idea that part of the management of the Amazon was done through what he calls a “slash and char” process that allowed the inhabitants to add charcoal to the soil and enhanced its suitability for farming."

As opposed to "Swidden" or "slash & burn", I suppose. Not being critical and not trying to fuel a separate discussion, but I am curious: What evidence does the author present to support his conclusions?

Jim
 
I actually had 1491 in my hands the other day at the book shop but ended up leaving it at the store. After reading your review, I think I'll head back soon. Thanks....
 
Taking a portion of the quote:

"He even presents new evidence that the Amazon region, long thought to have been sparsely settled by small and unsophisticated groups, never extensively farmed due to the unsuitability of the soil, was actually was one of those highly managed areas that for thousands of years supported large, fairly advanced cultures that subsisted mostly by farming rather than by hunting and gathering. Some of this information has not been welcomed, especially by environmentalists, including the idea that part of the management of the Amazon was done through what he calls a “slash and char” process that allowed the inhabitants to add charcoal to the soil and enhanced its suitability for farming."

As opposed to "Swidden" or "slash & burn", I suppose. Not being critical and not trying to fuel a separate discussion, but I am curious: What evidence does the author present to support his conclusions?

Jim

Gosh, Jim...it's been almost a year since I read the book, so I can't tell you offhand exactly what his evidence was. I'm off to lunch right now, but I'll take a look later. Anyone else who is reading or has read this want to chime in...perhaps over on the history board?

And, yes, Switchback, I would encourage you to read this one. Aside from being an interesting book, I also found it immensely readable...not dry or dull at all, which it could very easily have been.
 
Here are a few I've read and have no hesitation in recommending:

John Julius Norwich's 3-part history of Byzantium. A thoroughly entertaining breeze through more than a thousand years of glory and, ultimately, tragedy and betrayal.

Norwich also wrote a history of the Normans in Sicily, another two-parter. Try and get them sparately, unless you're a weightlifter.

I also have his history of Venice but have yet to read it.

Xenophon's Retreat By Robin Waterfield - about Xenophon's march after the battle of Cunaxa. But also tries to give a wider view of the Greek and Persian world of the time.

The Great Seige: Malta 1565 by Ernle Bradford - an totally gripping account of the seige of Malta by the Ottoman Empire and the heroic defence of the Hospitallers and people of Malta.

Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee - by Dee Brown. A series of tales of the last days of the American Indians as they gradually lose their lands to the white settlers. Dee Brown also wrote a history of the settlers but I haven't read it yet.

Quite frankly, these books usually beat novels about the same events, if well-written.
 
Julius Caesar - Commentaries on the Gallic War (de Bello Gallico).

Can't remember the edition/translation I read, but it was gripping. The notes and explanation of the political arena that Caesar was playing to was a useful frame for the picture. The prose was crisp and the pace brisk.
 

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