NOOBS STAY OUT THIS MEANS YOU LAST CHANCE You've been warned I think this thread is needed. I feel stifled at the GOT TV forum, as i think that even referring to anything that happens in the future, no matter how unimportant, is wrong, but I'd like to be able to discuss the show with people who KNOW the books, as you guys and gals do I'll start off. I thought the way they planted the seeds of Robert fathering bastards , as well as the fact that Cersei's children ARE bastards, was very well done. It's sort of spoon feeding information to viewers, but it's important that they "get" that, as so much hinges on those facts. The Tower of joy scene is even more interesting to me after seeing how the dialog about Jon's parentage was handled. My blood" is very different from "my son". Payne doesn't look big enough to swing Ice, but maybe that was a bad angle. I hope the crow "dreams" appear in the show. I very much would have liked to have seen the view of the world in the first dream. Maybe we still will. There are certainly enough crows in the promos add and discuss as you will.