I am confused, befuddled and I am sure thats a usual Australian trait (or maybe it comes from my Dad's British heritage) but its causing me some problems. After reading a lot of website about publishing and so on I now get the thoughts I had come to clearly thrown into KAOS! by one of John's posts. I have been writing my story (novel book manuscript, or whatever else you want to call it, its still a story at heart) and recently came to the 80K mark and was considering having this chapter as my final chapter. Making it into a 3 book series of all books roughly equal length. This seemed to be where a lot of the website were leading, saying that for a first time author publishers didnt want to print too many pages if they couldnt be sure it would sell well. Once you were published though your word count could increase drastically (ie. Rowlings). Now I see a post from John saying 120K+. This has thrown me into a spin. But I see a few ways around this and wanted to see what other people think. (Yes, I am new here, thankyou for the welcomes I am sure to come. I've been reading a few threads on here for a little while but never actually posted anything.) I can go back through my work and get what I have (the 80K) up to submission standard and, well, submit it. Once submitted get onto writing the next section. Or should I just go right ahead and make it into 2 books, or even 1 big book? I dont have a cohesive story that will last for 3 books of 200K. I can likely lead on to other books later with the way my story is, but not in 1 cohesive story-line. What would be better for me to do with this? Or should I just forget about wolves completely and go back to the other story I started before I moved from one city to another, the story that would easily be three long books. Yes, my current story is about wolves and some humans and a dog. The point I am trying to make here is "What is the more acceptable standard today." Is it about length of books? or number of books? And what do publishers really want to see in it. Is a book of 200K made to be into a complete story in a single novel likely to draw a publishers eyes and make them want to print it? Or are they going to say cut it in half and make 2 books? Oh I am cinfused about what to do. Should I just fix up what I have done and submit it anyway? Seeing what kind of replies I get back about it?